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I have a HF100 and a BD35 Panasonic. I backup all my HD cam content on a ext. hard drive, when I want to watch one, I would love to be able to throw the video on a sd card and play it with my Blu-ray player, but it doesn't work...


When I put the sd card in the player to watch my videos, it works only when the video come directly from the camera. In other words, I can't put a mt2s that was on my ext. HD on my sd card ans play it, the player doen't recognize it. If I film with the camera, then I can watch it right away. There's a special folder arangement and file naming going on in the camera.


The blu-ray player is programed to play file that comes directly from the camera but does not allow us to put a random mt2s file on there and watch it unless you can stick to the file structure/naming nightmare!!

Is there a simple way to watch my backuped mt2s videos with the equipement that I have??? Pany TH50PZ85 + BD35 + D-Link DSM510 + HF100 Canon.
 

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Unfortunately you went a bought a stand alone player which kind of limits your options.


Your easiest route is probably just to purchase the WD media player. You can get them at Best buy for $100 or so and they will play a rather huge selection video types directly from a hard drive to your TV and skip your player all together.

http://www.wdc.com/en/products/products.asp?driveid=572
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage....egories&ks=960


The WD website states "passport drives" but they in fact will work with any external drive
 

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Yeah, another stand alone player (since my DSM 510 dosen't play mt2s for now...) would be an option. But I'll be patient, maybe some genius will come up with something for all of us in this situation!
 

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lockeed,

I am in the same situation. I have a Canon HF10 and a Sony BDP-301 Blu-Ray player (which will play the AVCHD codec). As far as I can tell, we have 2 options that were not mentioned yet. Buy the Canon DVD burner sold as an accessory for these cameras and burn DVDs that are playable in our Blu-Ray players in HD quality. This would require you to load the movies back onto your camera and hook your camera up to the Canon burner. The other option is using a program such as Toast or RevolverHD and using your computers DVD burner (assuming you have one) to burn DVDs which will also play in HD quality on the Blu-Ray players. I still have not made a decision as to what I am going to do either. If I can find a good tutorial on how you use Toast or RevolverHD and burn movies in AVCHD format from a MacBook without converting the original files to any other format and losing the native copies, I will go that route. If not, I may buy the Canon burner. Please post back here when you find a method that works for you.
 

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One question, how can I load back the movies (the one on my ext. HD) on my camera and get them to show up? If I can do that, I can watch them using the camera witch I don't mind...
 

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Originally Posted by lockeed /forum/post/15449483


When I put the sd card in the player to watch my videos, it works only when the video come directly from the camera. In other words, I can't put a mt2s that was on my ext. HD on my sd card ans play it, the player doen't recognize it. If I film with the camera, then I can watch it right away. There's a special folder arangement and file naming going on in the camera.


The blu-ray player is programed to play file that comes directly from the camera but does not allow us to put a random mt2s file on there and watch it unless you can stick to the file structure/naming nightmare!!

it sounds like you should therefore be able to copy the entire folder structure over to the external hdd after every session you shoot, then re-copy that folder structure back to a clean sd card, and plug the card into the blu-ray player?


obviously that won't work for the .mts files that you already copied to the hdd, because they dont have the original file structure(??)
 

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Yes OSV, you're right. Since I bought the camera recently, I started doing that just a couple days ago... But I have about an hour or so of video that I just "took" from the camera to the ext. HD... Those are the one I would love to get back on the camera... ...or find a simple way to play them...
 

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Unfortunately, you cannot play stand-alone .mts files on any BR player (at the moment). You need the directory files associated with the .mts files to play them on the panasonic bd35. The only way to do this is to take the SD card directly from the camera to the player.

If you have a mac, you are in luck.......go pick up a copy of Toast 9 from amazon for about $50-$60. Toast will burn the .mts files to any DVD media in AVCHD format, with custom menus, and will play on any BR player, including the panny bd35. Toast is a simple program to use, just drag and drop files, choose a menu format, and burn. I currently use toast 9, and as long as you don't need to edit the .mts files, it will burn them without any transcoding, and will play flawlessly. Not to mention, since there is no transcoding, the burning process is about 30 minutes total for 8gb of movies on a DVD+DL disc, on a macbook pro (intel).

For windows, I use sony Vegas and DVD architect.........not as easy as Toast, or as quick, but does the same thing (with rendering, however....takes longer).


good luck.....
 

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Is there a way to get those video back on the camera?


If not, does anyone have the procedure to build the file structure correctly?
 

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I've got the WD HD media player and it plays the original mts files recorded from the camera flawlessly. Eliminates all the wasted time converting and burning. My work flow is remove SDHC card from camera, plug card into usb reader, plug usb reader in WD, watch crystal clear HD video on my Panny plasma. Doesn't get any simpler than that. Best hundred $ I've spent ..
 

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WD Player sounds like a great option. However the receiver in my home theater system does not have HDMI input, instead it has inputs for component video and dolby digital. I wonder if there are 'adapters' that can convert HDMI to component video and dolby digital?


I don't want to plug HDMI directly to my Panasonic HDTV since it would use the TVs speakers to play audio. I have HT setup for sound output.
 

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Is there a way to get those video back on the camera?

If not, does anyone have the procedure to build the file structure correctly?

Very simple really, use your bundled Pixela ImageMixer to join the video files. Just drag the clips to the timeline and output a video file. As it does smart render, it will only take minutes especially if you have not added titles and transitions - best part? The original pristine video quality is retained.


Then use the free tsMuxeR to format the video file into AVCHD/Blu-Ray format - again only take minutes.


You can then burn the files with directories into an AVCHD disc (normal DVDs), or use an SD card/Flash drive. For SD Card/USB drives, you may have to experiment as to what type of directory structure your player likes. PS3 can play AVCHD directories on disc fine. But for USB Flash drive/hard disk, it requires the directories and file names to be in 8.3 fashion (you can google a utility called AVCHDMe to do this automatically).
 

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Kalak, I tried your procedure without any success. Everything goes Ok up to the point were I put the SD card or dvd in the player... The player doesn't recognize it. The file structure look Ok exept for the lack of 1 folder and 2 files in: \\PRIVATE\\AVCHD\\AVCHDTN--- THUMB.TDT & THUMB.TID . This folder and files are not produced by TSMUXER and I'm pretty positive that this is why my player doesn't want to play it... I see the camera is producing thumb when you film something and put them there..


Let me know what you guys think...
 

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This procedure works perfectly. (taken on another forum)


1. Open Nero Vision.


2. Choose Make DVD>AVCHD


3. Choose Add Video Files


4. Navigate to where your camera clips are located, usually in the STREAMS folder in the BDMV folder on your camera SD card (Or on your HD). Select and load the .mts clips you want to edit.


5. Resize the window to fill you screen, to make it easier to see and edit.


6. Use the buttons on the left to Move Up, Move Down, Merge, and edit the clips, thus trimming, rearranging, and appending them together as desired.


7. Optionally apply video effects, text effects (titles) and / or transitions to the clips (but remember that any of these optional steps will force recompression to occur)


8. Hit the Next button in the lower right corner to move to the Menu design page.


9. Choose Do Not Create a Menu.


10. Again hit the Next button in the lower right.

If you want to preview the edited clips, use the remote control buttons to simulate playing the AVCHD disk. Otherwise, skip this step by hitting Next once again in the lower right corner.


11. On this burn page, note that it displays the Smart Rendering status for each of the clips you originally selected. The clips which had no added filters, effects, titles, or transitions should show up in the list as 100% Smart Rendered. If you optionally added filters, text, transitions, or titles, you will see lower percentage numbers for these affected clips. If you, for example, did color correction on only half the clip, then the other half will still remain Smart Rendered at 50%.


12. At the top right corner of the page, choose Burn to Hard Disk Folder and select Desktop, where the output AVCHD folder will be written.

Hit the Write button in the lower right corner and the output process will commence, showing you the very rapid creation of the output, For non re-rendered content, the output will be extremely fast, maybe 2 or 3 minutes total.


13. When this burn / output ends in a couple minutes, you will find on your Desktop an AVCHD folder containing a BDMV folder containing a STREAMS folder containing the new .mts files, exactly the same quality as the originals but trimmed, spliced, etc. in the manner you chose.


Optionally move this BDMV folder onto your SD card replacing the original folder if you want to view the results on your camera, or play it on your computer screen using the Nero program ShowTime.


Hope this makes the process clear!


It work flawlessly for me...
 

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I tried a couple things and I still can't understand why I don't have audio with Nero Vision..... Anyboby has the same problem?
 

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Raj123,

My nephew has the same problem so he did HDMI to the tv and Optical to his AV receiver.



????????
 

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Anyway, late last night I found what my problem was, my serial numbers on my nero software needed to be updated, that solved the audio problem.


Now, I can recomand Nero Vision to anyone who want to backup existing AVCHD files to DVD or SD card. This is the BEST and FASTEST way to work with AVCHD, PERIOD. No re-encoding, no editing ! Best video quality possible.
 

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thanks for letting us know what works for that.


as far as i'm concerned, nero is a must-have for avchd.
 
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