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Home Theater Build out Budgets

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I must say, there are some beautiful home theaters in this forum, and I am aware that some have hired design and install companies to do the job, while others have done a true DIY method, and others have some something in between.


As I consider the options for my own home theater, I'd like to know what people are investing in the buildout of the home theater room, excluding equipment. I'm talking about any design, consulting fees, materials, labor (even if it is your own) etcetc...


It also would be good to include a pic or link of the end result so we know what kind of project scope we are talking about.


Numbers don't have to be exact, of course, but any genral budget information offered is appreciated.
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We are currently finishing out our 1320 sq-ft basement. This includes a 430 sq-ft dedicated HT. With acoustical wall treatment, I hope to come in under $20k for the entire basement. Most of the equipment, we already have from our old HT. We will add a new pj, new screen, HT seating and a popcorn popper. Those charges aren't included.
We are planning an upstairs dedicated HT in 2005. Roughly 14 x 30 x 8 size room. Our VERY ROUGH estimate is:


Construction - $15,000 ( I can do most of the work myself)

Seating - $2,000

Lighting - $1,000

Floor/wall/ceiling coverings - $2,000

Projector/120" screen - $5,000

Pre/Pro - $4,000

Speakers - $10,000

Wires/cables/etc. - $1,000



Total - $40,000
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I'm doing mine basically by myself, with occasional help from relatives. Entire basement is around 1000 sq ft, with 200 of that dedicated to storage and furnace (home theater room is around 345 sq ft). What I figured:


Construction (wood, electrical, drywall)--around $2000 maybe, maybe less

Insulation--$500

Carpet--probably $2000 to $3000

Light fixtures--around $200

drop ceiling for 2/3's of basement--I have no idea, but probably around $500.

Bathroom, kitchen fixtures/counters--$1000


Total: $5200 to $6200. That may be a little high honestly. My only consulting firm is the avsforum. :) I wasn't going to do sound treatments, then I was, and now I'm not again. It's not really worth the time, effort, and money to me--I just want to sit back in the recliners and watch movies or play games with the local neigborhood kids that stop by. My wife says I'm deaf anyways so I probably wouldn't hear the difference anyways, lol.


Taylor34
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I am very similar to Taylor34.


A 1,000ft/2 basement, including a 320ft/2 HT.


Rough costs (was recording in a detailed Excel file, but overwrote it with a real old version):


$500 in wood

$300 in Electric (a lot of 12 guage)

$250 in Cabling (RG6, Cat5e, DVI and s-video)

$400 in insulation

$400 in drywall

$100 in drywall finishing (tools, tape, mud, corner bead etc)

$600 in doors (double french, two single, and a pair of sliding louvered doors)

$300 in trim (baseboard and case)

$450 in light fixtures

$100 in tiling

$100 in fixtures (door handles, and a bathroom fixture set)

$100 in Rack components (shelving system and mdf)

$60 in primer

$1,000 in plumbing (the one thing I outsourced, a half bath was plumbed in from scratch (concrete dug up etc.), and the price included all work plus sink and toilet)


...so $4,660 for now! I have still to get paint and carpet, accoustic panels, a screen, a stage - Oh my, will it never end :eek: I have not included tools as they will be with me for a long time.


This has taken me 10months to get this far, and I am almost done (you know what I mean, almost ready to plug speakers in)! I have all the equipment from when it was just a basement with a couch, this is all in boxes right now. I look to have everything done for under $7,000 ($9,000 if you include the new projector I'll get with the 2004 tax return check ;) )


- Brett


edit: I nearly forgot. I also plan on spending about $1,600 on seats.
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We have spent roughly 19K on our home theater. This of course does not include equipment. Equipment was an extra $33,100.00. I still have to buy seating (another 10K) GOM fabric, (cost unknown) and carpet. Of course there are miscellaneous labor charges. All and all I will estimate the total bill to be around 70K!
Here's pretty close costs, from starting time (June, 2002) until last month.


This includes some significant non-essentials (hushbox, candy counter, rebuilding the equipment rack, way over-priced hinges and lockset, etc).


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Room design services (from Dennis), room construction, any cabling that was built into the room (speaker, video from projector, etc), X10 devices (PCS), labor by some subcontractors (insulation, electric), equipment rental (drywall lift), gas for truck to go to dump / pick up parts, etc, hushbox, candy counter parts (about $500), some tools that were just bought from Home Depot along with other parts:

$15,600


Electronics, including projector (Sharp DLP), screen (stewart), HDTV Tuner, Speakers, DVD Player, Antenna / amplifier, VGA->RG6 converter, Remote Control, misc. Does *not* include amplifier (using old Yamaha reciever) or HTPC:

$17,500


Furniture, including couches (2 standard black cloth couches), chairs (4 movables that we use for overflow), trash can.

$1700


Tools that were itemized - compress / nailer, Compound miter saw, etc.

$1400


See the results of this money (and time) at:

http://www.nessoft.com/gallery/theater


I've got to post some current shots here soon - with the new candy counter in the lobby, finished door, etc.


- Pete
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My answer: lots. My wife made it clear. "I don't want to know."


Actually, I divided my effort up into two completely separate projects: the main basement and the dedicated theater.


For the theater, I worked with Dennis Erskine who did the plans. I then gave my plans to my selected contractor, a basement refinishing specialist and said, "give me a quote on building exactly this, then give me a separate quote on the rest of the job." He did just that and never argued with the plan and came in precisely on budget.


Total project was between 80 and 100K.


Randy
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I wanted to go as cheap as possible, and still get a "decent" experience.


I hoped for 10k (ha!), took a loan for 20k (being realistic)... we're about 17k, and "nearly" done.


Unfinished basement ~1200ft, in 4 yr old home. Convert to 2 rooms... HT/entertainment room (~700ft) and a small exercise room (~200). The rest is unfinished storage.


Plan by architect brother-in-law: free!

Work: by couple of nice old guys I know (licensed contractors)... framing, electric, drywall, doors, drop ceiling, can lights. 7k

Equipment: Z2, 106" screen, DVD, Onkyo A/V receiver + speakers, cables, shakers + 2nd receiver, hot link pro) 3.5k

Carpet: 3k (a little extravagant here... sculpted 100% nylon berber is nice though!)

Cabinets: 4 wall, 1 corner, 1 sink, 1 fridge: 2k (delivered, Ikea, self install)

Chairs: 3 Coaster HT recliners. 1.2k (delivered to curb, self install)

Wall paint and baseboard: ~ 0.4k ? (self)

Built in equipment rack: ~ 0.1k (self)


pending?:

2 Lutron Spacer System dimmers.

A bar with seating for 4 for behind HT recliners w screen view.

DVD racks (self, may combine with bar).

A small table with seating for 2-4 near kitchenette.

Valance and black velvet curtains for screen (self).

2 additional recliners.

Microwave.

decorating adornments (wife).


It's a much more than decent experience. It's fantastic. It's almost embarrassingly nice. Wouldn't have been half as nice without the tons of help and info gathered here.
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Another full basement project split up with a dedicated 14x19x8 HT.


Contracted Framing, Drywall, Trim : $8500

Electrical and all A/V cabling: $800

Lighting: $500

Insulation: $400

Materials for soffits, riser, and stage: $400

GOM acoustic treatment: $1200

HVAC added zoning: $2000

Misc Lowes/Home Depot trips: $who knows! (prob like $500)

carpet: $2500


Equipment costs included (projector, screen, htpc, amp, pre/pro, hdtivo, battery backup, subwoofer, 7 Triad speakers): around $16000 (damn, why did i add that all up!)


Couches and A/V cabinets carried over from old house.


So, total job was about $35K for the whole. We got a home equity line and only used about $10K of it, covering the costs of the actual structure and not equipment.


My HT link is below...
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My case was the same as CtpRandy's. I've had an open checkbook with the wife on this project - unfortunately she's starting to come to grips with some of the costs. :D


2300 ft² basement - 400 ft² is HT, 450 ft² is rec room, 200 ft² is my office, plus my shop and misc. space for closets & hallways. In the end we'll probably be at about $30,000 for the construction related costs. (I did all work myself except for drywall, plastering and HVAC) We're not done yet - the plastering was finished last week and I'm putting in Dricore subfloor right now. Still have to buy paint, carpet, doors and woodwork yet - but I've added those into the $25k guess.


Add to that equipment and furniture. (we're re-using a lot of what we already had - but not only will there be a 7.1 HT down there, but a rec room with a 65" HD-RPTV and 2.1 system as well)


I did the design work, in conjunction with the designer at the local HT shop.
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This includes some significant non-essentials (hushbox, candy counter, rebuilding the equipment rack, way over-priced hinges and lockset, etc).
Pete,


What door, hinges, and lockset did you use. We have toyed with the idea of using the "Zero" hardware but WOW:eek: are those some big price tags! Curious as to what you used and how you like the results.


We are working with Dennis on our room (just finishing the framing now.


Sorry to hijack the thread.


To get back on track, we have abandoned the notion that we have a budget. We are doing this room ONCE. Equipment may come and go but the room is being done ONCE (Unless Art S. takes me on as an extremely overpaid assistant at his practice and donates the CRT stack as a bonus).


My wife (God bless her) was the one that decided that we had no budget. That DOES NOT mean that we have an endless supply of money, far from it. It means that things get done the right way, as time and money allow. If it takes a year to complete it, so be it. It will end up exactly like I wanted it and "right".


You are on the right track with treating the room as a very major component of the whole experience. Great speakers can sound like crap in a poorly designed and treated room. However I am hoping that my Atlantics sound like they cost 5 times the money in my properly done room.


Take your time, pick the brains of those that have brains worth picking (mine is not one) and consider paying a professional (I am biased toward Dennis Erskine) to look at your unique needs and space and build your wants and wishes into a satisfying experience for you adn your family.


Good luck.
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Total agreement that this was going to be a long process due to the fact that 90% of the HT work was to be completed by yours truly. I wouldn't be able to afford the room if it was all contracted out. I can't imagine the costs alone just for the fabric installation. In the end, my wife loves it, my daughter is getting close enough in age to be able to watch a movie without getting up and running around (2 years old), and I couldn't be happier with the results.
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Pete,


What door, hinges, and lockset did you use. We have toyed with the idea of using the "Zero" hardware but WOW:eek: are those some big price tags! Curious as to what you used and how you like the results.
I have a single exterior door that is in the theater - and GoM'ed. This required hardware that would handle 3" of door (1-7/8 for door, 1" for GoM). This was *way* non-trivial to procure for me. I had to custom-build the jamb to fit the wall depth, then put in a $90 slab door, and then put on $500 of hardware. I used a custom-order Shlage professional lockset and a set of hinges that a lockshop ordered for me that would accomodate the right thickness. It ended up working *great*, but the door alone took me two days and over $700.00 total cost.


This probably isn't the same problem you're running in to. I had to use commercial grade hardware just to make it all work. Paying someone to do the door probably would have cost less and been better because they would have been able to source the hardware cheaper.


Anyway, one of these days I'll add some pictures of the door area - it turned out absolutely great.
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Originally posted by peteness


See the results of this money (and time) at:

http://www.nessoft.com/gallery/theater


I've got to post some current shots here soon - with the new candy counter in the lobby, finished door, etc.


- Pete
Sorry to change the subject, but what sort of change recommendations did you get regarding the frequency response null ?


TIA,

Scott
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Misc Lowes/Home Depot trips: $who knows! (prob like $500)
Aint that the truth! I can add Sears Hardware to those two also, but you are right on the money - those quick trips to get a couple of things sure do add up.


Heh, I smiled when I read through your list as it really struck home.


- Brett
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my daughter is getting close enough in age to be able to watch a movie without getting up and running around (2 years old)


I have a three y/o boy and I still can't keep him from getting up and running around while watching a movie. Pressing buttons, turning knobs, asking why this and that....Funny thing though I asked him what is your place in this household, son ? He said.."Daddy, im here to make you and mommy mad"..... I still LOL when I think of him saying that...



Cheers,



Ivan
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My situation is a little different.


I am converting an existing room, so the walls and ceiling were already there. I did, however, build a new wall which has a built in DVD storage area and a slide out audio rack (also built). I also dry-walled over three existing windows. I removed all of the carpet and trim, built a riser, installed can lights and will be repainting the entire room, adding crown molding and a chair rail and putting fabric underneath the chair rail. The only thing I'm not doing by myself is the new carpet (well, my wife held the ladder for me once), and not including tools I had to buy (nail guns, mitre saw, carpet knife, etc.) the total cost for me will be about $2000.


Look for pictures in about 1 month.



Stew
My HT is an extreme low-budget effort. We were finishing off about 1200 ft^2 of basement, which included my office, my wife's work room, a large open area, and the HT (about 14x16x8).


Total for the basement finish-out is right around $22k. That was 30% below any other contractor, but it's also taken 2-3x longer than it should have.


That $22k figure includes building the HT (walls, carpet, double sheetrock in ceiling, some built-in cabinets, wiring, insulation in all walls, etc). Probably

Then there's about $500 for the projector (good find on an XG 852), $60 for the DIY 89x48 BO screen (which is huge in this small room), $340 for the Onkyo HTIB, $350 for the Momitsu V880N, about $200 for sound treatments, maybe $100-200 if we decide to put some curtains on the screen wall, probably $100 for misc cables &etc.


All told, counting the "$1000 more than a bedroom" build costs, I'm into it for less than $3000 TOTAL. Less than most people spend on a 50" TV. :)
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All told, counting the "$1000 more than a bedroom" build costs, I'm into it for less than $3000 TOTAL. Less than most people spend on a 50" TV. :)
Hey, if you are happy with it, that is all that is important!
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