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Which model of Panasonic did you see the THX mode on? ...I ask because my 2008 800U has THX as an option and I think it sucks ballz, but I'm sure the newer panny's do a better job these days
I've seen an ISF calibrated Pioneer 101 and although the viewing-room wasn't 100% dark, I was not able to see an immediate difference from a user-calibrated Pure Mode setting. ...IMO plasma displays are getting [nearly] good enough that a novice 'user' calibrated TV will end up looking very good. I believe the day of calibrator is slowly coming to an end. Flame suit engage...
 

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Originally Posted by 3reach /forum/post/20821292


I see that the Panasonics come with THX, how much a difference does a calibration make over THX? Is it night and day?

Done by a skilled professional a calibration makes a huge difference in picture quality imo Even THX mode btw
 

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No wow-effect - no calibration business. Who will pay $300 for pale but "very accurate" picture?


I speng 2 weeks calibrating my 55VT30 by Hubble&СhromaPure Pro. So - very hard to outperform its THX-mode. Not because good factory settigs (Panny THX has yellowpush). Becаuse there is some critical errors in PROF 1/2 modes. And in EU 55VT30 max PROF-lightoutput limited to 80 cd/m2 (THX - 110 cd/m2). Panny cheating.
 

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No wow-effect - no calibration business. Who will pay $300 for pale but "very accurate" picture?


I speng 2 weeks calibrating my 55VT30 by Hubble&СhromaPure Pro. So - very hard to outperform its THX-mode. Not because good factory settigs (Panny THX has yellowpush). Becаuse there is some critical errors in PROF 1/2 modes. And in EU 55VT30 max PROF-lightoutput limited to 80 cd/m2 (THX - 110 cd/m2). Panny cheating.


Cant speak to the VT30 but my GT25 is plenty bright enough for both day and night time viewing(45 ftl) after calibration.
 

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I am going to say that a pro cal will be noticeable.

That Panasonic basically

includes tools for pros tells me that Calibration

is not going away. That

ISFmodes and the new autocal features are not available to users.

My observations on the VT25 is that the gamma

sucks. Custom gets good

results in low APL but washes out in High ones.

THX has good high APL pic but sucks at low APL.

Seems the colors are really hot on my set and

the balance between contrast and color is tight.
 

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VT30 have oversaturation bug in both PROF modes (ISF Day / Night - in US).

Faces, bodyes partialy looks too red. US and EU models - no difference. THX - have not.

Its very hard fix by calibration. So - calibration of this model and seeing in ISF-mode maybe some sort of worsening picture pleasure.

This problem discuss in VT30 calibration thread (HDJ forum, "Official Panasonic TC-PXXVT30 Calibration Discussion", page 6).


"Have now calibrated 12 VT30 panels... I will say this chassis is the most difficult display to correctly calibrate that I have come across in many many years" - Kevin Miller.


"After doing a couple more, I am more frustrated than ever with at least 3 things in the ISF modes (and Custom): improper interaction between the calibration adjustments, aggressive / unstable ABL, and color decoding issues.

There are ways to minimize the issues, but are they worth it?

The easiest and possibly best thing to do for many calibrators would be to calibrate THX mode for a day mode and Cinema for a night mode" - ChadB about 65VT30.


Ha-Ha! Calibrate THX? And not to leave to the TV owner possibility to compare?



P.S.

Panny VT30 THX-mode also have troubles. Average color temp too warm - around 6200K (ref - 6504K).

There is no red push. But is yellowpush.

For example - "Quantum of Solace" movie.

In some air scenes Bond girl`s skin - seems too yellow.

And see scene - 43 min 58 sec. THX demonstrate uncanny yellow spot on face.


P.P.S.

About "calibration wow-factor" and THX/ISF difference.


1) Take MacBookPRO

2) Do calibration its screen by any good, but cheap meter like i1D2 ($150).

3) Its do good adjustment. And MacBookPro matrix color space -> 1:1 = sRGB (same as rec709 - Blurays). No distortion.

4) Go on.

Try to establish on the Mac screen the same brightness that on the TV screen.

Start the same bluray movie on the computer and on the TV.

Stop the most pleasant shot.

And change in menu: ISF - THX. THX - ISF...


5) So. Do you see any significant difference? Between Mac screen and THX? Between THX and ISF? Mac and ISF?
 
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