[5.4ever]

Hello all. My father-in-law loves to watch movies, as do I. We often hang out and watch some stuff together. Recently he bought a new HDTV. He decided to go pick it up from our local B&M alone and got tricked into buying a new sorround system. I say tricked because instead of the salesman showing him around and giving him some options, he took him straight to the "Bose" section. The old man loved the"sorround sound" and "how it puts you right in the action" bull they fed him

. Long story short, he bought the damn system for 1700 with taxes. He says it was a hook up because he had already bought the TV, LOL. I asked him if they included a bottle of Vaseline with the system.... he didnt like that very much. He challenged me to find him a comparable system that would sound as good for that price(the guy at CC told him only high end systems in the 10-15K sound this good

) I immediatley thought about this site. I accepted his challenge and told him I would do it in only a few days. I also said I could probably find one for 1,200. He laughed at me.

So now I come to yall in hope of finding a way to open the old mans eyes(and ears

) and show him that he got screwed. He said if I found something better he would return it and buy what I thought was better.

Can I please get some ideas as to what products could beat this system

http://www.circuitcity.com/ssm/Bose-...ilar+Items+Mod


The only stipulations are these;

1.The price has to be under 1,700.(shouldnt be very hard)

2.The speakers MUST be of similar size(he wants to hide them)Are there any out there?

3.The sound must be as good or better than the Bose(again, shouldnt be hard)

4.And finally, the receiver must be as nice as his.lol


I already have an AVR in mind, the HK254/354. I also like the fact that it can decode HD audio.

But as far as speakers go, Im stumped. Im not sure where/what to get. Any input would really help. I really want to teach him and that guy at CC a lesson. Thanks in advance yall.

 

[Browninggold]

The 4B Harmony from Aperion. Around 1200 dollars shipped. 5.1 speaker system. aperionaudio.com

 

[undermined]

what is the point of rubbing it in his face that he got "tricked" into a Bose system?


If he is happy with what you or I consider sub-par audio and the whole bose speaker cube deal I'd say let him enjoy his setup instead of ragging on how he could've got a better system.


Unless you are trying to spec a system for he to show him a cost savings and he'll return the bose it's kinda a moot point isn't it ?


I'm sure that if the bose is properly setup it will serve his needs fine. it might not be a good value but if he is already convinced that the lil speakers sound good enough, it'll be mighty hard to justify worring about hunting down other satalite speakers that are small but sound better.


But if you are intent on show him the value in asking you for purchasing audio gear in the future or really just want to make your point there are a few good brands that make smaller speakers:


Energy, kilpsch, mirage, Definitive Technology, Orb audio are a few.


Good luck

 

[CADOBHuK]

Not quite bose-sized but still very small:

should sound quite a bit better

Edit: forgot the link. Here.

 

[YeuEmMaiMai]

Same thing happened to my friend....lol


Her som said "It's Bose and it's expensive so it must sound good" She bought the acoustimass 10 for him and hooked it up to a (I would call it cheap) Sony 5.1 receiver........


I just said you spent too much $$$ and it's dosent have decent reviews from the audio sites........

and left it at that......when I watch my movies and they sound fantastic for what I have......he'll understand

 

[Pure-Evil]



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Originally Posted by undermined /forum/post/15402551


what is the point of rubbing it in his face that he got "tricked" into a Bose system?


If he is happy with what you or I consider sub-par audio and the whole bose speaker cube deal I'd say let him enjoy his setup instead of ragging on how he could've got a better system.


Unless you are trying to spec a system for he to show him a cost savings and he'll return the bose it's kinda a moot point isn't it ?


I'm sure that if the bose is properly setup it will serve his needs fine. it might not be a good value but if he is already convinced that the lil speakers sound good enough, it'll be mighty hard to justify worring about hunting down other satalite speakers that are small but sound better.


But if you are intent on show him the value in asking you for purchasing audio gear in the future or really just want to make your point there are a few good brands that make smaller speakers:


Energy, kilpsch, mirage, Definitive Technology, Orb audio are a few.


Good luck

it doesn't sound like he's rubbing his nose in it. it sounds like he is tryign to save his dad from being sucked in by that jackhole salesman. i would do the same thing...especially if it was my dad, but hell i'd even do it for a stranger.

 

[Pure-Evil]

oh how i wish people's eyes were opened to the crap Blose is peddling....it just makes me sick to my stomach ugh

 

[matty ice]



Quote:
Originally Posted by browninggold /forum/post/15402534


The 4B Harmony from Aperion. Around 1200 dollars shipped. 5.1 speaker system. aperionaudio.com

why is the sensitivity of all the speakers in that range so poor? 84dB? really?

 

[Canoga56]



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Originally Posted by Pure-Evil /forum/post/15402764


it doesn't sound like he's rubbing his nose in it. it sounds like he is tryign to save his dad from being sucked in by that jackhole salesman. i would do the same thing...especially if it was my dad, but hell i'd even do it for a stranger.

The father was already "sucked in"...


He might have good intentions but he certainly comes across in his post as a complete jerk if you ask me.

 

[5.4ever]

Thanks for the posts guys. By the way, hes my in-law


Canoga, Hes not "sucked in" yet, he can return it for a full refund. Sorry if I came off as a jerk, but when you hear something like this happened to someone you know or care about, you cant just stand around and let them get screwed. I dont know about you,but I wont. Besides, hes the one that asked me to find him something better, I never told him I would/could until he challenged me. In a way Im glad he did. I get to help the old man and I get to show the guy at CC that not everyone is as dumb as they think. We are not rich or wealthy by any means, hell, the old man had been saving for a TV for about a year. I found him a really good deal and he got it. He had about 800 left over and I hate to see him get ripped off so bad for some crap that isnt worth it.

CADO, thanks for the suggestion, but it looks like the speakers themselves will be over 1,700. Any other suggestions??

 

[5.4ever]

Forgot to add;

It only has to be a 5.1 sorround

It does NOT have to have DVD, even though the Bose does have it

The speakers must absolutely have to be of equal size.

Thanks

 

[Johnsteph10]

Orb Audio

Kef

Heck, even the discontinued Athena Micro system would destroy it.


Why does he want to limit himself to tiny speakers?

 

[DamageMcRamage]

If the speakers have to be of the same size, I'm sorry to say that you may lose this challenge. Even HTIB's generally have larger speakers than Bose cubes. I say let him enjoy his new system.

 

[jackass414]

I would say either klipsch quintet system with a sub 12 and a decent receiver would smoke a bose system.

 

[Pure-Evil]

yup...go with a klipsch quintet that would do nicely

 

[Pure-Evil]

oh ya, and the answer to your question about "how to beat bose?"


my answer would be preferably with a golf club or a baseball bat

 

[The Wraith]



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Originally Posted by Pure-Evil /forum/post/15404055


oh ya, and the answer to your question about "how to beat bose?"


my answer would be preferably with a golf club or a baseball bat

I agree 150%!!

 

[JBLsound4645]

The Day After Tomorrow with BOSE thou I prefer to use JBL, by why settle with my opinion.

 

[77Pat]

I don't know how they sound, but the mission m cube are around the same size and get good reviews on amazon.


They are available from www.tsto.com



Would the HTD Middy's be small enough http://www.htd.com/cabinet-speakers/flat-panel-speakers

 

[hansangb]



Quote:
Originally Posted by 5.4ever /forum/post/15402500


Hello all. My father-in-law loves to watch movies, as do I. We often hang out and watch some stuff together. Recently he bought a new HDTV. He decided to go pick it up from our local B&M alone and got tricked into buying a new sorround system.

...

Can I please get some ideas as to what products could beat this system

http://www.circuitcity.com/ssm/Bose-...ilar+Items+Mod


The only stipulations are these;

1.The price has to be under 1,700.(shouldnt be very hard)

2.The speakers MUST be of similar size(he wants to hide them)Are there any out there?

3.The sound must be as good or better than the Bose(again, shouldnt be hard)

4.And finally, the receiver must be as nice as his.lol


I already have an AVR in mind, the HK254/354. I also like the fact that it can decode HD audio.

But as far as speakers go, Im stumped. Im not sure where/what to get. Any input would really help. I really want to teach him and that guy at CC a lesson. Thanks in advance yall.

Hmm, the size thing might be too hard to overcome. Basically, you have to convince him that size does matter to a degree. You should check out Axiom Audio for the Epic Grand Master 175 series (not cube speakers though).


I know they are making Bose-like cube speakers but it's not out yet.


I owned Bose speakers for about 8 years. I liked them for the size and the sound was good enough. Or so I though. I got myself Axiom's Epic80/500 line and what a difference! I actually heard things that I never heard before (from movies that I've watched 50-60 times- like Cars....if you have small children, you'll know what I'm talking about)