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Skeptic --


don't worry about it...


I can email you some dolbny digital links --


But if you have Time Warner cable the AC3 is basically a waste of time.


a)AC3 is ONLY supported for digital channels (see a list on http://www.avsforum.com/ubb/Forum13/HTML/002438.html ) -- you have to switch back and forth from composite audio to digital audio when you want to go from an analog to a digital channel (a major pain for me -- my A/V receiver doesn't do this remotely).


b)The AC3 you get is Dolby Digital 2.0


Bare with me if you know a lot about DD systems! DVD style sources provide DD 5.1 -- this includes the Center, Front R/L, Rear R/L, and LFE chanells.


Regular broadcast sound is in analog or digital 2.0 -- over analog and digital cable, off CD's, radio, and other sources. These two channells of audio can be processed by a dolby prologic receiver to give you 4 channels of audio -- Center, Front R/L, and rear.


Your digital box provides two outputs -- the AC3 DD 2.0 output and the R/L composite output.


As far as I have been able to tell, listenting to both sources through the same DD Ready, Prologic Receiver, there is no difference in quality between the signal you get when you do the Digital-to-Analog (D-A) conversion in the cable box, and send the analog output through the Prologic receiver versus sending the AC3 into the same receiver, doing the D-A conversion there and runing it through the Prologic decoder to get the same 4 channels of audio.


This assumes you have no long cable runs or interfernece sources.


I figure the D-A processor in the box must be just as good as the D-A converter in my receiver (I have a Kenwood VR-209).


There are some dolby digital references -- you should be able to find them fairly easily on the Dolby home page, or I can dig around and find them for you, which suggest that it will be years if not ever before digital cable moves to DD 5.1 audio. Has to do with an infrastructure/delivery system problem.


Anyways -- after my first week or so playing with the box -- and the horrible shockk I had when I found out it was DD 2.0 I was one of the first in town to "upgrade" to digital cable -- not only was I shocked to learn about the truth of "digital cable" -- the analog channels and the AC3 DD 2.0 sound, but I had to teach the engineers at Time Warner what was going on -- at one point I went to the head of engineering in Austin -- who had to dig for a WEEK to find out that they hadn't implemented the AC3 output -- his lackeys were telling me my REVCEIVER was dead -- but there was NO SIGNAL!!


Anyways, hope this info helps



Joe


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Dr. Joe:


Thanks for the VERY helpful information. I had assumed that Dolby Digital meant 5.1! I have digital bitstream CD players, but they don't call themselves Dolby Digital. Everything I have that says Dolby Digital is 5.1.


I have the Kenwood VR-410, so I'm sure I would be in the same boat (By the way, the 410 RF/IR remote supports Replay and TiVo. The internal implementation is crap, but it is a learning remote so it can be improved. I use only the Kenwood remote in my main viewing room)


Does anyone know if the lack of 5.1 applies to DD satellite equipment as well? It was my impression (uh-oh) that both Dish and DirectTV had 5.1 on some movie channels. Confirm or deny?




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There is ONE movie channel that has a DD 5.1 movie per night -- you can get it only on satellite (I believe it is Starz);


There are a few PPV events that are DD 5.1;


"Dolby Digital" comes in many formats -- http://www.dolby.com/tech has MANY faq's and technical documents on the subject;


I have found a few to be most helpful: (html and pdf)


General FAQ http://www.dolby.com/tech/l.br.0007.FullDDFAQ.html http://www.dolby.com/tech/l.br.0007.FullDDFAQ.pdf


What shows are broadcast in 5.1? http://www.dolby.com/ht/pp.lt.0010.5.1Shows.html http://www.dolby.com/ht/pp.lt.0010.5.1Shows.pdf


note -- it looks like they've added a LOT more; I think theses are all Satellite EXCEPT perhaps the HDTV broadcasts -- there are some HDTV test channels on the upper end of the digital cable channels


Dolby Surround in the Age of Dolby Digital http://www.dolby.com/ht/surr-age.pdf


History of Dolby Audio http://www.dolby.com/ht/430.l.br.9904.surhist.pdf


Growth of DD in Consumer Products: http://www.dolby.com/digital/growth.html



Hope these help -- if you find anything else interesting that I missed, add it to the list!


Joe


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I'm thinking about switching from Dish to TimeWarner Digital Cable. I know it will drive me nuts to have to decide between watching a movie live with DD or through my ShowBlocker so I can pee without missing something.


Anyone know the status of new Replay or TiVo units that can record and playback digital audio (other than the DirectTiVo, which I don't want)?



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