[HDTVwannabe]

I have my standard 18" round dish pointed between the 101 and 119 satellites (at least I think its between, I get signal strength readings of around 85 and even up to 90 from both satellites, when I have the oval dish selected in the 'dish pointing' setup).


My problem is, I get all the channels from the 101 bird, as usual, but I can't get the HD channels from the 119 bird to come in. I have tried choosing both the 119 bird satellite while choosing the oval dish option and just the round dish option, which just gives me signal strength meter on the 101 bird.


I am using the DTC100 and just an RCA SDTV until my new 27" Samsung Tantus HD-monitor (TSL2795HF) arrives. But I should still get the HD channels from the 119 bird right?



I am thinking my dish is not positioned just right or something, how could I not be getting the HD channels if its reading signal strengths of 85-90 on the 110 and 119 bird in oval dish with 2- and 3-way satellite setup?



Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!


HDTVwannabe



[This message has been edited by HDTVwannabe (edited 08-16-2001).]


[This message has been edited by HDTVwannabe (edited 08-16-2001).]

 

[HiDefGuy]

Quote:

Originally posted by HDTVwannabe: I have my standard 18" round dish

You need the oval dish



------------------

"You can't argue with a confident man"

- Napoleon Wilson, Assault on Precinct 13

 

[ronk]

Although you think you are 'seeing' the 119 satellite from the signal screen, you are still seeing the 101.


The 119 LNB is selected through a multiswitch via a 22kHz tone, sent out by the receiver when it wants a channel that is affiliated with the 119 satellite.


Once you get an elliptical dish with both LNBs, then you will be able to see the 199/509 channels.

Quote:

Originally posted by HDTVwannabe: I have my standard 18" round dish pointed between the 101 and 119 satellites (at least I think its between, I get signal strength readings of around 85 and even up to 90 from both satellites, when I have the oval dish selected in the 'dish pointing' setup).

 

[Kevin Coleman]

I was told yesterday in another thread that you could get HD with just the 18" round dish. Is this not true? I don't want any SD chanells just the HD.


Kevin C. http://www.avsforum.com/ubb/smile.gif


------------------

Stop DFAST.

Boycott JVC!

 

[greenwing]

one dish will work as long as it's pointing to the 119 sat...Mine is that way...i have a second dish pointing to the 101 bird...with a multi-switch in the middle...make sure your stb is set for the round dish type...


------------------

kenmullins

newnan, ga usa

 

[Kevin Coleman]

Will the DTC-100 work the round dish type?


Kevin C.


------------------

Stop DFAST.

Boycott JVC!

 

[HDTVwannabe]

greenwing-


I've tried that, but I can't seem to find the 119 bird. Of course, it doesn't help that there's probably a tree, or trees, blocking where my dish needs to be pointing to "see" the 119 bird.


Do I just adjust the elevation downward of where I have it set for the 101 bird (someone posted somewhere that all you have to do is adjust the elevation downward about 5.2-5.6 degrees downward of the 101 setting, as the 119 satellite is lower in the horizon)?

Or do I have to adjust the azimuth as well?



Thanks.



HDTVwannabe

 

[greenwing]

Nothing is going to help if there is a tree in the way... ... You might want to check in to getting a prof installer to come out and let them see if there is some place to mount the dish that will miss the trees...My 101 and 119 are different dishes because of trees...I could not find a reasonable spot to get both at the same time...So I have 101 on one dish in one spot pointing thru the trees, and the 119 dish in another spot pointing thru different trees...But I live in a VERY wooded area and expected problems like that...


------------------

kenmullins

newnan, ga usa

 

[JasonATL]

Quote:

Originally posted by greenwing: ...make sure your stb is set for the round dish type...

Don't you mean to make sure the STB is set for the oval dish type? Isn't what matters to the STB what multiswitch is being used and which sats it should see? If so, I would think that the oval dish type is the proper setting to see both sats (even with two round dishes).


Correct me if I'm wrong. I'm just trying to keep HDTVwannabe from spinning his or her wheels.




------------------

-Jason

 

[HDTVwannabe]

Jason-


You're right, the STB has to be set to oval dish with 2 or 3 LNB setup for it to get the HD channels from the 119 bird.



Thanks to all for your help and suggestions, I used a website to get the settings I needed to point my dish properly at the 119 satellite and after some tweaking, I got the signal strength up to 80+(!) from 119. That's almost as strong a signal as I can get from the 101 bird.



greenwing-


(Thankfully!) the possible tree obstruction I mentioned above earlier doesn't really come in to play at all.

*big sigh of relief*


Thanks again to all with your time and helpful tips and suggestions!


HDTVwannabe

 

[bluesting]

What happens if I point my 18" dish to the 119 bird if i have only a 5th gen Plus sytem. Will i still get the picture on 199 509 but in ntsc format?

 

[PaulM9999]


Quote:

one dish will work as long as it's pointing to the 119 sat...Mine is that way...i have a second dish pointing to the 101 bird...with a multi-switch in the middle...make sure your stb is set for the round dish type...

Forgive my newbie-ism, but what is a "multi-switch"? Also, what is the direction to aim for the 119 bird, relative to the 101 (is it slightly lower/higher/left/right?)


Thanks,

Paul

 

[Kipp Jones]

did anyone notice last week that the 199 and 509 channels were not coming through for about 24 hours?


------------------

Kipp


IS THAT A REMOTE CONTROL IN YOUR POCKET OR ARE YOU JUST HAPPY TO SEE HDTV?

 

[Glimmie]

Yes, two dishes and a multiswitch will work in place of an oval dish, but it's tricky for a novice to get it to work. I had a rough time and I have done several C band (big dish) installations over the years.


DirecTV receivers signal strength meter is simply measuring the analog RF level. You could have the dish pointed at a Soviet spy satellite and if the carrier frequencies were even close, it will register signal strength. It's very easy to line the DirecTV dish up on the 119 Echostar bird, put the ladder away, only to find no channels from 119 in your on-screen guide.


At least some Dish Network receivers tell you, yes you have a signal, but it's not one of ours.

 

[jhill32]

Quote:

Originally posted by bluesting: What happens if I point my 18" dish to the 119 bird if i have only a 5th gen Plus sytem. Will i still get the picture on 199 509 but in ntsc format?

You MUST have one of the HDTV receivers (like DTC-100, HD100, etc.) in order to see the 199 demo channel.



------------------

DVI/HDCP makes your HDTV not ready