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How does this DIY screen compare to the SilverStar ?

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Can someone give me an idea of how this DIY screen compares to the SilverStar ? The pics are a little blurry (camera shake) and really don't do the sample any real justice - but I wanted to get the opinion of others.

(edit) the cineplayer screen (the brighter left side) is my test screen - the duller white portion of cineplyer is the plain blackout cloth
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And another: still need some work on even distribution of paint here. But - look at the bridge - the shadow level detail is better.
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Maintaining (actually improving) blacks while increasing the whites to new levels: All shots are from my Sony HS10 with the cinema filter installed - low lamp power, no calibration done.
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This shot shows the ambient light rejection of the screen:
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come on - 50+ reads and no comments !!!!
From what I can tell from your photos, it looks like you're accomplishing similar attributes of the Silverstar.

I'm looking at your last picture and I'm trying to understand my reference. The large screen is untreated blackout cloth and the smaller panel is your SportStar?

Trying to get as much as can from the photos and it seems like there is good low level detail from the sample compared to the larger screen. There definitely is more gain from the SportStar than the larger screen.

As far as the Silverstar coating, it reminds me of the cardboard heat reflectors that come with microwave pizza to give it that oven baked look and taste. It's like a silvery grey dull finish, but it does look nice when you throw an image on it.
Thanks Steve - yes - If you look at the pic where I am showing the light rejection - you can clearly see the roughly 3x3 test panel I am using - it is just sitting in front of the regular screen, it is blackout cloth stretched over some 1x4 wood frame - I don't have any silverstar material to compare it to - if someone has a sample they don't want - I would like to compare them.
Are you comparing the DDog mixture ?

I have a ddog painted wall, and a silverstar sample. If my room didn't have good light control, I'd give the silverstar the edge, but with good lighting control, the ddog mixture performs really well, and avoids the "blowout" that the silverstar shows (a little). I'd love to get a 1-2 gain version of the ddog mixture, as opposed to the 6 gain of the silverstar.

This started out as a ddog formula - but I have modified mostly the technique of applying the formula. As a result - the mixture now has much more gain than the original ddog batch.
what's your modification? You can PM me if you like.
here is another ambient light shot. Maybe I should not even call it ambient light - if you look at the picture the recessed light in the ceiling is aimed directly AT THE SCREEN - which is really a torture test !
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The screen really does seem to do a good job shedding that ambient light. If you are willing to share, I would love to know how you modified the application of ddog's mixture.
Extremely Nice, give us the recipe or whats this post for? I for one would use this if I can go get the ingredients at my local Home Depot. david
Originally posted by eameres
Are you comparing the DDog mixture ?

I'd love to get a 1-2 gain version of the ddog mixture, as opposed to the 6 gain of the silverstar.

There is no way that the Silverstar's gain is actually 6 even through that is what is listed on the back of the samples. I had it next to a Hi-Power and the Hi-Power is brighter when the projector is on a table (as opposed to ceiling mounted). The Hi-Power is something like a 1.6 gain I believe.
How much does the screen glow with all lights off and the PJ is on with NO (just black background) image being displayed this give you an idea of what your blacks are going to look like.

the trick is in the application of the silver - the ddog formula was good - but I thought the silver was being drowned out with the white mixed in - but straight silver was overkill as well . the siver didn't really appear silver in the mixture - it looked gray when I was done with it - and at about $80/gal for that behr silver - I wanted silver - not gray. So I began to experiment with the procedure and here is what i found:

1) give 2-3 good solid coats of pure bright white paint (semi gloss is fine - but don't hesitate to use full gloss if you really want a fireball!!!)

2) let the base white dry - then apply the glaze - Don't let the glaze dry

3) while glaze is still nice and wet - its now time for the silver bullet ! this is the most difficult step - you want to "dust" the screen with a fine coat of the silver paint

that's it - its fast and does create significant gain over the origianal ddog procedure

Having said this - I'm pretty sure that you CANNOT roll on the last step - it needs to be sprayed - also, the glaze should be sprayed - you want an automotive cleat-coat appearance with the glaze step. You want to just mist the wet glaze with the silver coat as to not cover the glaze and white - this allows the best of both worlds - it give fantasic whites while somehow that thin coat of silver does indeed reject the ambient light while also enhancing blacks.

I am about to the point where I have this technique perfected - Again - the skill comes in when you put on the silver - too much or too little - and you will have hot spot city !

The wet on wet technique of the silver and glaze allows the silver to just imbed itself in the glaze while allowing the bright white to do its part

I was amazed at the light rejection I got from this technique.

Well - there you have it ! Let me know how it goes!!

ddog - Maybe between your new formula and my derivitive of your first formulation - we will create the Silverstar killer :D

I can see it now "Silver Screens for the Masses"

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I don't have the place to use a professional spray gun, I'm in a condo. Oh well **** outa luck again. It does look very very good though, nice job david
Very interesting. I have tried various mixes of Behr silver and glaze, and this wekend wondered if I could fog silver into the glaze. You made up ,my mind for me. I would offer that this kind of application is probably going to need some pretty good spray equipment. It truly reminds me of painting the last car I painted - a silver metallic. Took some patience to get that to lay out properly. I suspect this is going to be very similar. Thanks for the advice.

What if you mix the glaze and the silver together - effectively thinning out the silver (if I understand what glaze is). Have you tried that instead of trying to blend them while the glaze is wet?
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