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How long does a speaker last before losing sound quality?

Do speakers deteriorate gradually after hours and hours of playing and eventually degrade in sound quality? If so, how many hours of listening does a speaker last before the sound quality loss becomes noticeable, assuming you have a same speaker broken-in for a side by side comparison?

PS - Since we're alreay here, how long does a power amp last, I assume solid-state lasts a lot longer than tube?
 

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My old Wharfedales (5.0) are 15 years old now and still going strong. Used daily. I'd have thought my ears have changed more in that time than the speakers. Interesting question though, can't wait for the professional answers.

Amps.....my 15 year old onkyo still does its thing. My 2 year old Denon has been repaired twice under warranty :/
 

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Most speakers last twenty plus years in a good environment like most homes. Outside with varying temperatures, conditions and humidity expect less. Amps is tough to say because of the different quality of components inside them, capacitors leak etc. Heat and humidity is definitely your enemy with any amps or electronics. Bryston has a 20 year warranty on theirs and they will likely outlast most inexpensive brands that are made to a price point. Tubes depends on type and usage, tubes gradually decrease over time and most will not notice the gradual performance decrease. whether you run the tube at full power or not also makes a difference. Some tubes only go about 5000 hours at full power before their performance is half of what it was originally, others go 40,000 hours.
 

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Some drivers last longer than others. Dust and dirt can build up in the air gap of some older coaxial-type drivers like KEF's UNI-Q, causing friction and thus, scraping sounds. My KEF's lasted about 15 years before that became a problem. Careful cleaning fixed the scraping, but I don't know if performance was fully restored.
 

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My original 1974 Advent Large loudspeakers had to have their LF drivers reconed twice over twenty-odd years as their foam surrounds rotted in my damp basement den. My original 1968 AR Amplifier had to have it's adjustable bias adjusted often until they retro-designed a fixed bias for it. It's power supply filter caps failed after twenty-odd years and I put it under the workbench until I could find replacements - it was still there when I moved four years ago this July. My Philips CD-960, a 24lb CDP with a machined Al drawer, was also abandoned after twenty years when it's drive belts needed replacing and weren't available via general replacements or from Philips. It's matching FA-50 amplifier lost a channel - oddly, I moved it! It was ~20 yr old. My original HT AVR, a Yamaha RX-V480, was superceded by a Yamaha HTR-5640 AVR after ~ 8yr - and it by an Onkyo TX-SR505 after ~the same time. New features - and worn out remote controls - were equally causal there. My Onkyo TX-8020 and two C-7030 CDPs are only a few years old now - and work perfectly. I have an assortment of bookshelf speakers 'in storage' as well as my original 1968 AR XA turntable - which will likely need a belt - but they are still available.

I'd say twenty years should be considered as a good 'life' for a modern hifi component - more if you don't mind replacing caps, etc(... short of physical/electrical damage!).
 

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Tympani 1-C speakers in my living room were put into use in the early 1970's and seem to be just fine, thank you very much. My other pair were sent back to Magnepan 20 years ago and are still in the box waiting to be hooked-up when I move in a year or so.

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I'm still using the M&K S1B's purchased new 11-15-88. The V2B sub destroyed the speaker cone around 2000. It is still in my basement waiting for me to repair. The S1B satellite speakers still sound good to me. They are used everyday as the main front L/R speakers in a 7.1 setup.
 

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Interesting question,

The longest I've ever had anything run electronics wise is a Pioneer 45 WPC receiver, it had issues after 33 years of use (I was the second owner) My Carver M1.5t amplifier blew the Triac at 24 years while my Onkyo AVR made it 17 years. Presently, have an old Kenwood CD player that is 24 years old and still kicking.

A buddy of mine has a Crown D150 and I replaced a power supply fuse and power indicator light bulb for him--the 1976 vintage beast still pumps out signal after 41 years. The large Sprague caps still look new with no swelling, leaks or bulging spots so back into service it goes. A neighbor of mine is a drummer and uses a 1983 Peavey CS800 PA amp with scratchy gain pots but no complaints after hard PA use for 30 years on the road.

As far as speakers go, avoid any of them with foam surrounds. The accordion type surround drivers will last at least 30 years with the longest one I've seen still kicking butt after 50 years. The golden oldie was in a pair of PA fully horn loaded speakers from the 1960's so the drivers "never saw the sun". The crossovers were shot so I measured, built a new XO with steeper filters, replaced all the wiring etc. and now they are used daily in a multi-channel system. The 1978 Peavey dual 15" bass bin still punches out the sound and is about to hit 40 years old.

Have a pair of 1999 Infinity Overture speakers with the rubber surrounds and they are still working. I'll have them replaced by next year because they will need the crossover filters redone, the ferrofluid in the tweeters will need to be replaced and the built-in bass amps are getting long in tooth. No point in refurbing a speaker with an amp built-in that there are no parts available for...the downside of that design.

As far as durability/longevity of speakers, I find that PA type drivers last decades without issue. The cloth on the accordion folds last at least 30 to 40 years as long as they are not sitting in the sun or mounted outside on the shores of the ocean. The main problem with them would be the electrolytic capacitors in the crossovers--replace them every 15 to 20 years and press on. I use metalized polypropylene caps as they should go at least 25 years without sliding out of tolerance.

You can replace ferrofluid in dome tweeters as long as the tweeters can be taken apart. The speakers with rubber surrounds on the woofers/subwoofers seem to be doing quite well after 25+ years. Maybe find a Polk Audio forum and sniff around to see how their old Monitor series from the 1980's are holding up.

In summation, if you want speakers to last a looooong time, use accordion type surrounds, keep them out of the sun (grills!) change the caps after 20 years, don't use ferrofluid in the drivers so it won't dry out, keep them away from salt air and if you are paranoid--rotate the drivers every 5 years to prevent sag. Take the things apart after 20 years, replace the gaskets, check the cabinet for leaks, replace the grill cloth, rotate the drivers and replace the caps in the crossover. Don't use speakers with built-in amplifiers, keep teenagers away from them and if your almplifiers have limiters--use them!

To keep the electronics lasting longer, don't overstress them, don't overheat them, keep them cool with plenty of airflow and salt air is the enemy. Pull the covers every couple of years to get the dust out, use a decent surge supressor and look at the caps to see if they are swelling.

You don't have to spend a fortune to get decades of enjoyment, how many ancient boom boxes with coat hanger antennae, broken cassette draws have you seen? 25 years later they keep playing tunes in businesses and garages the world over. Most electronics will last for many, many years if you take care of them...my clock radio is over 20 years old and was not made by audiophile elves with unicorn dust or mil-spec/medical grade components.

Or you can think about it this way, the worse case life for electronics is a car radio...massive heat/humidity, fridgid cold, punishing vibration and variable power supply. A stereo component living in a temperture, humidity and no vibration environment is nothing compared to car electronics so relax, most things will last many years/decades if you keep them clean, don't beat the snot out of them and keep them cool and dry.
 

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Do speakers deteriorate gradually after hours and hours of playing and eventually degrade in sound quality? If so, how many hours of listening does a speaker last before the sound quality loss becomes noticeable, assuming you have a same speaker broken-in for a side by side comparison?

PS - Since we're alreay here, how long does a power amp last, I assume solid-state lasts a lot longer than tube?
No expert but as I have owned and used many, well 3 sets of vintage speakers Norman Labs 10's, Bose Series II 501's and some Magnavox S-8755's, as long as they are taken care of and not abused they can last 20 or 30 years. The issue you run into with older 2 way and 3 way speakers, is old electronic components going bad like capacitors and the foam or rubber cone surrounds rotting away.
 

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I guess it's easy to see whether speakers/amps are in working condition, but hard to quantify loss of sound quality over the years which is the subject of discussion.
 

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I guess the real answer is: It depends. I think a crossover-less system with the right materials could last longer than the user without any change in sound quality. It's very design/materials dependent. In the past there have been systems that were a challenge just to keep operating when they were new so that would be the other end of the scale.
Power amplifiers might be an easier answer. Since most if not all will have capacitors we know they have a limited lifespan, perhaps 20 years. So I would use that as a good number for top performance.
 

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Depends on the speaker. Foam surround don't last so maybe 10 years. Rubber surround last a long time.
Yes overtime the speaker suspension can get soft but it's very hard to notice.
I have these pair of studio monitors that I play loudly all the time and I have not notice any difference.
 

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Polyurethane was/is popular for speaker cone surrounds. Even in an interior location free of sunlight and salty air, it is still vulnerable to atmospheric ozone in an urban environment. Replacing it with a rubber surround, though sometimes satisfactory, will degrade the unit's sensitivity somewhat and modify its HF response. Some professional fabricators resort to a polyurethane/polyethylene laminate construction to address this issue. Accordion surrounds, though often cloth-based, nevertheless age well.

With crossovers, the components affected by aging are usually nonpolarized electrolytic capacitors, and wirewound composition power resistors. Mylar (polyester film) capacitors, though not expensive, rarely exhibit age problems.

With electronics, the common aging issues are corroded controls and contacts: potentiometers (knobs), switches and encoder wheels (digital volume controls). Along, natch, with dirt/dust buildup on the heated components (power transistors, power supplies, etc.)
 

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Most my speakers are newer now, but I have 1 Yamaha 5.1 AVR I purchased in early 1990s that still going strong and sounds great in a secondary set-up

I would think easy 20 years on most speakers.. my oldest now are only 12 yrs old
 

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Do speakers deteriorate gradually after hours and hours of playing and eventually degrade in sound quality? If so, how many hours of listening does a speaker last before the sound quality loss becomes noticeable, assuming you have a same speaker broken-in for a side by side comparison?

PS - Since we're alreay here, how long does a power amp last, I assume solid-state lasts a lot longer than tube?
You got some good answers here. The most surprising to me was the sag. I had not considered any spider deterioration. As mentioned, most of the problems with age are going to be the surround, and you can inspect that visually. The old JBLs used to have problems with this, but I have not seen any of this in the last couple of decades. (I also don't use JBL anymore.) A cone can conceivably have problems, but it is rare, and also noticeable visually. Problems with materials in the gap will be detectable with an impedance sweep. I know of speakers that frequent Burning Man that have problems with dust inside the components, but I don't think household dust will be a problem for many decades. If speakers are pushed really hard, it is possible for windings in the VC (Voice Coil) to fuse, and short out. This can be detected by measuring the impedance with a meter. If any windings have fused, the impedance will drop.

As pointed out, capacitors (electrolytic) will deteriorate over time. This is a very slow, and not noticeable to the ear, over time. However it is surprising to me how much difference it makes when an analog sound board is re-capped after about 20 years of use. Most larger caps will bulge over time.
 
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