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I know of the 3 Countries:


1)Japan (I think they where the first to do HDTV [Analog])

2)USA

3)Australia ???


3 1/2)If you can count Canada http://www.avsforum.com/ubb/wink.gif as a Nation or rather as a Colony of her Majesty the Queen http://www.avsforum.com/ubb/smile.gif ) . Anyway, I would give them 1/2 score for their ExpressView DBS and the 2nd provider (forgot the name). Any terrestrial broadcasting tests anywhere in Canada yet, ehh?


Who else ? What are the current developments in the Old World ?


What are the standards and maximum resolutions besides the US?


How is the adoption rate of HDTV in those Countries by the Broadcasters and End Users ?



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An OTA station in Toronto is doing 8VSB testing as we speak.


The other small dish provider in Canada is StarChoice. Both ExpressVu & StarChoice offer HD programing, most of it is from the US networks, along with PPV movies.


But, ExpressVu did a HD test broadcast of an NHL game last month, this has many hockey fans salivating over the prospect of playoff hockey in HDTV!


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China is developing a new modulation format which they hope will be better than 8-VSB and COFDM. I don't know whether they are on the air with anything other than testing. (Then again, "testing" is probably an apt description of U. S. DTV operations to date!)


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I know that in Finland they are now (or will be soon) broadcasting DTV in a 16:9 format but don't know at what resolution. More info can be found at:

http://www.digitv.fi/etusivu.asp?path=1


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Most of Europe has standard digital 16:9 available, it's not really taking off too well. It does help lower direct view 16:9 set prices even here in the US.


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Here is a URL with information about Canada's HDTV testing.

http://www.cdtv.ca/index2.html


The first test site was in Ottawa, the second located in Toronto.


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Originally posted by Ken H:
Most of Europe has standard digital 16:9 available, it's not really taking off too well. It does help lower direct view 16:9 set prices even here in the US.

The Europeans, in typical fashion, elected to develop their own HD system in the late 80s/early 90s rather than be tied in with the Japanese 1125/60 analog system or our ATSC digital equivalent of 1080i. They worked for a number of years on a system known as the Eureka 1250. It really never got anywhere and ultimately the Europeans made do with PAL wide 16:9. It appears they've gone digital with essentially a 16:9 system delivering the SD equivalent quality of what we see as 16:9 upconverts on Showtime. I suspect their material shot with live video cams looks quite good Not bad but it isn't HD. In spite of the pains that have been inflicted on we early adopters here in NA, at least we can say we were first with digital HD.
 

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OK here is what all of the information I was able to find regarding HDTV.

We all about USA so I will just write about other countries.

BTW US is a leader when it comes to terrestrial HDTV broadcasting.

1. Japan.

Japanese developed MUSE 1125i system in 70's and were doing some

shows on satellite since 80's. The biggest flaw of this system

that it is analog and shares many problems of NTSC like s/n ratio.

It can look spectacular though, but its horizontal resolution

is not as good as 1080i.

As far as digital HDTV standard Japanese pretty much adopted

ATSC resolution standards, meaning 1080i, 720p and so forth.

As far as audio they adopted AAC which I believe was developed

mostly by NBC and uses even lower data rate than DD. Get ready

for another debate about sound formats.

1125i is only used to digitize analog MUSE recordings.

Everything new is mostly shot in 1080i. There is 7 or so HDTV

channels on satellite but many of them show same programming

at different times and some movies shown on those

do not look great because of bad transfers or were

analog HDTV and were digitized.

As far as terrestrial Japanese picked COFDM but modified it

and call it ISDB-T. They are running tests in Tokyo

about possibility of receiving HDTV in cars.

Last time I heard these were not going too well.

It seems that data rate for full blown HDTV is too high and

and almost impossible to receive in mobile situations.

What works in SD most likely will not work in HDTV.

COFDM freaks always fail to say that COFDM carries 5% less data

than 8VSB which can affect picture quality. These were my 2 cents

about these COFDM vs 8VSB debates. Terrestrial broadcasting

does not begin until 2003 and this may even be pushed back.

2. Canada -

Terrestrial 8VSB tests in Toronto.

One channel of US network programming and some PPV movies

and occasional free HDTV movie on Express view.

3. Australia -

Adopted ATSC standard completely except for 8VSB.

They chose COFDM but are running into many problems because

their channel bandwidth is 7 Mhz. Since they are small

market manufacturers basically modify 8 Mhz receivers.

They also banned almost pretty much all of datacasting.

No satellite HD channels.

Started digital terrestrial broadcasting on Jan. 1 2001

with many complaints of bad picture from viewers watching adjacent

analog channels. All of the programming right now is SD.

4. Korea -

Adopted ATSC standard completely including 8VSB.

Do not know about Korean satellite HD channels

but I believe there aren't any. The can receive

Japanese satellite HD channels.

Terrestrial 8VSB broadcasting is on with three channels is Soul

area. I don't know how much of programming is true HDTV and

how much is SD. Maybe somebody from Korea can help with this.

5. Taiwan -

Adopted ATSC standard completely including 8VSB.

No satellite or terrestrial broadcasting as of yet.


6. As far as China, there is no plans to do HDTV.

They are only talking about developing their own

modulation format separate from COFDM and 8VSB.


7. Europe -

No plans for HDTV.

Eureka system that they were working on never made it farther than

lab testing. As far as digital widescreen it only really took off

in UK. Most of the TV programming is still shot 4:3 (sometimes 14:9

because of complaints from viewers with 4:3 TV's about "those big black bars") except for most movies which are shown 16:9 but you will

almost never find anything in OAR. There is no DD 5.1 just

stereo MPEG audio set many times to only 128kbps. I should not tell anybody

here how bad it can sound at that rate. Remember we are not talking here

about MP3 which sounds better at that rate than MPEG audio layer 1 or 2.

Rest of Europe (there are some exceptions and there are more countries

going digital but roll out is nothing like in UK) is mainly getting their digital TV from Satellite right now.

Most movies on those services are in 16:9. These services can not

compare to our Direct TV or Dish Network in quality or quantity of programming. One more thing I forgot to mention, all of that

digital TV in Europe is interlaced so it does not even look as good

as FOX Network in US.

I hope that this long thread will clear up some of the questions.


 

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Quote:
Originally posted by CKNA:
OK here is what all of the information I was able to find regarding HDTV.

We all about USA so I will just write about other countries.

BTW US is a leader when it comes to terrestrial HDTV broadcasting.

1. Japan.

Japanese developed MUSE 1125i system in 70's and were doing some

shows on satellite since 80's. The biggest flaw of this system

that it is analog and shares many problems of NTSC like s/n ratio.

It can look spectacular though, but its horizontal resolution

is not as good as 1080i.
Very good overview of current HD status worldwide! One note: Muse was developed in the late 80s. The original 1125/60 was full 30 meg wide analog with no compression of any kind. It looked absolutely stunning but was impractical. I've seen lots of 1125/60 demos directly from studio VTRs running at 30 ips and the very best of those are still superior, in my opinion, to 1080i. But 1080I and 720P are very close. It could be much worse..we could be in Europe with no HD.
 
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