[Irascible]

The RTV shows 28 hours and 46 minutes available. DVArchive estimates about 27 hours available. I have a lot of programming that is not in reserved space that I don't want to lose. Am I correct in believing that the RTV will not begin to erase the oldest of those unreserved programs until I've recorded another 27 hours worth?


Also, I assume that the RTV shows 70+ hours of reserved space available only because it calculates reserved availability based on its willingness to erase old unreserved programs. Is that right?


FYI: I have a 5040 that I upgraded to what Maxtor calls a 200 GB drive. DVArchive reports it as a 189 GB drive.


Thanks in advance.

 

[icecow]

Go to the 'replay guide' (the recorded shows) and move to a show in question. Then move the cursor utmost to the left. it will tell you the information you need. If it says 'save till I delete' that show is safe. If you want to save a show that is unsafe, go to that show and press select. Choose 'save till I delete'.


Also, go to settings/DEFAULT RECORDING OPTIONS. Set them to how you want. In particular, set the 'single record' to 'save until I delete'. If you want a show forever then save it as a single recording. Otherwise the show will be deleted when new shows come. On a multiple scheduled recording you must go to the show and choose 'save until I delete' for everyshow you want to keep indefinately before new shows come and slide them off your show list.


hope that was clearer than mud


cow

 

[Irascible]

On single recordings, I do have the option of saving till I delete. However, there's around 100 programs that I recorded using the "Create the (whatever program) Theme Channel" option. The theme channel records any program at any time with whatever name. Programs recorded that way don't give me the option of saving till I delete. There's only "Delete oldest: If space needed" and "Delete oldest: Only for new episode". The only for new episode option taps into reserved space. But I don't have enough reserved space to make the change.


The bottom line is, none of what we discussed answers my question! ;^) You were showing me a way around my concern, and I appreciate it. But as you can see, I have no choice but to leave the programs recorded with the theme channel option unreserved.


Just so you know, the default record option for single recordings on my RTV is and always has been save until I delete. Obviously RTV treats theme channel recordings as a repeat recording, which has no such option.

 

[icecow]

iracible (no doubt)


The replay will fill up (or close to) before booting your 'not saved' programs.


If you have a 80 hour replay with nothing on it and set up 10 theme shows for 5 hours as "Only for new episode" the replay will claim 50 hours showing 30 hours as availible. Even though you haven't recorded one thing yet the space will be register as taken. after the 5 hours is used up and another show comes, the oldest show will be deleted and a new one recorded.


If you have a 80 hour replay with nothing on it and set up 10 theme shows for 5 hours as "If space needed" i believe the replay will not claim any space, and still show 80 hours as free. When a show is recorded the space is taken. If your drive is full and something is set to record the "if space needed" stuff is fair game to be deleted.


btw, there's a pdf manual for the 50xx and 55xx in the FAQ area


cow

 

[Irascible]

What you're saying seems reasonable. Though I'm guessing that the RTV reserves a part of the drive for pausing live TV. I say that because I have roughly 96 hours of unreserved recorded programing. But the RTV shows only about 72 hours of reserved space available. So perhaps the RTV insists on having around 20 hours (10 percent of my drive roughly) for the pause function.


Maybe? I dunno. If so, then perhaps I have only about 7 hours of recording left before some of my old un-reserved programs get deleted. The RTV shows 27 hours of free space. If it wants 20 of that for pausing... then... yeah. Whatever. You mentioned something about mud?


I'm sure these questions were asked and aswered before. I just don't have the time to research a bazillion old posts or...... read the manual. Reading manuals is just wrong.

 

[leesweet]

AFAIK, it doesn't 'reserve' anything for live pause. It will show you all the blank space as the live buffer in 'high quality'. You can take that number and convert it into what you record as.


Your 96 vs. 72 is what you have committed for shows to be recorded. (4 hours at medium, etc. for one show, etc.). The pause buffer is everything, with no deduction for shows to be recorded later, since RTVs only record one thing at a time. If it starts recording, the pause buffer is flushed.


That help?

 

[Irascible]

Well, it does help - that is, if you're right.


When I look at the replay guide, it says that there's 27 hours free space. DVArhcive says the same thing. But when I pause a live program, I have only 9 hours of pause available.


So if you're right, I have 9 hours left before the RTV starts erasing unreserved programming.

 

[j.m.]

Quote:

Originally posted by Irascible Well, it does help - that is, if you're right. When I look at the replay guide, it says that there's 27 hours free space. DVArhcive says the same thing. But when I pause a live program, I have only 9 hours of pause available. So if you're right, I have 9 hours left before the RTV starts erasing unreserved programming.

DVArchive reports the number of free hours at STANDARD quality. Live TV is always recorded at HIGH quality; therefore, remaining pause time is reported in terms of HIGH quality. 27 hours at STANDARD = 9 hours at HIGH.


STANDARD = ~1GB/hr

MEDIUM = ~2GB/hr

HIGH = ~3GB/hr

 

[Irascible]

Awesome. It all makes sense now. :^)

 

[leesweet]

And I don't think pausing for the nine hours would do anything. It would just stop pausing after nine hours. The different in the other hours *was* due to committed time for recordings set and the total free....


The calculations, between total, committed, and the various 'speeds' used, do make it hard to keep straight sometimes.

 

[adone36]

In any case, why would you create a Theme channel with "contains" as opposed to a theme channel for an actual show? Seems very wasteful and an easy way to run out of space and get wanted content deleted.

 

[Irascible]

A theme channel which records any program containing "Starget SG-1" in the title isn't likely to get anything other than... drum roll please... Stargate SG-1. However, I could be wrong.

 

[adone36]

Exactly

 

[trsands]

I have a Theme Channel with "Beatles" in case a show with that in the description shows up, I record it. I get some silly stuff that I don't want, but never more than an hour or so a week. But, when some shows have some archival footage of the group or if there is just a special that comes on that I don't know about, I am pleased as punch to have it waiting for me on my Replay.