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If you miss MLB on HD Net, Please contact MLB and let them know.


Let's tell 'em how much we want high definition baseball on HD Net (or anywhere else, for that matter). Please post informative responses in this thread.



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I'd feel a lot better e-mailing if I had a few details to pepper in with the e-mail. Did I miss something or are these still unanswered questions?


-Did ESPN-HD somehow end up with exclusive rights to MLB in HD, locking HDNet out?


-Is a deal imminent, just normal delays like HDNet has seen in the past, or is there a reason to believe that negotiations are tougher this year than last and HDNet really isn't close to a deal?
 

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-Did ESPN-HD somehow end up with exclusive rights to MLB in HD, locking HDNet out?


-Is a deal imminent, just normal delays like HDNet has seen in the past, or is there a reason to believe that negotiations are tougher this year than last and HDNet really isn't close to a deal?
To the first question: No, ESPN-HD has no such exclusive rights.

To the second: I understand that the hold-up is on the MLB side which is being tougher this year. They just need to be goaded a bit by viewers to get the message that high definition is a great boon to baseball.
 

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If that's the case, I'm surprised we haven't heard more from MC.


In any case, I think I composed a pretty good e-mail, I hope these guys do something with it.
 

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If that's the case, I'm surprised we haven't heard more from MC.


In any case, I think I composed a pretty good e-mail, I hope these guys do something with it.
I'm sure you will. Thanks for writing.
 

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Here's mine:


*start


Gentlemen,


I'm very disappointed this year to find that MLB in High Definition is no longer available on HDNet. I understand that HDNet would like to carry games but has not been able to make a deal this season. I was looking forward to watching games on ESPN-HD, but the launch of that new network has been a total fiasco so far. Apparently ESPN-HD is only available on a few cable systems and neither of the direct broadcast satellite providers has picked it up yet.


This looks like another fine example of the greed ruining Major League Baseball. I hope I'm wrong and MLB will be seen in HD soon.


Thanks

Pete Williams


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looks like I'll be attending quite a few Albuquerque Isotopes games this summer instead of watching the spoiled brats on MLB
 

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I called and left a message!
 

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I don't think this article (in the current issue of Sports Business Journal) provides any definitive answers, but it sure gives some hints about the delay for Mark and MLB in HD.


To wit: "....ESPN is exerting considerable influence on all these (HD) decisions. "


So now Disney not only has put together a business plan that keeps ESPN HD off most providers, but is keeping us from seeing games we did get in the past.


Personally, I certainly miss the HDNet MLB games, and find myself watching far less MLB this year now that I must see the games in SD.


(By the way, the article's author, Andy Bernstein, is usually pretty far ahead of the curve on sports/HD and by himself is well worth the subscription price [$199 a year] to SBJ.)


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http://www.sportsbusinessjournal.com/

Cable programmer chasing sports rights for fall HD launch


By ANDY BERNSTEIN Sports Business Journal Staff writer


Cable programmer In Demand is actively seeking sports rights for the high-definition channel it will launch this fall, but its success will depend on how leagues interpret existing national contracts, and how aggressively ESPN tries to monopolize the high-definition medium for sports.


In Demand, which is jointly owned by the major cable operators and provides them with pay-per-view and subscription-based programming, already has deals with the NBA, NHL and MLB for their out-of-market game packages.


But securing high-definition rights for In Demand's new channel would require separate deals.


"INHD," which will be a 24-hour traditional cable service, not a pay-per-view or subscription service, will launch Sept. 1 with a mix of movies, entertainment and sports programming.


Rob Jacobsen, In Demand's executive vice president and chief operating officer, said talks have begun with several major sports properties, and deals are expected to be completed in the next four to six weeks.


He said it was highly unlikely that In Demand will be able to work out anything with the NFL or the NBA due to the nature of their current television deals, but that MLB and the NHL are possibilities, along with many non-major league properties.


"It's going to depend on who the league is and what the existing arrangements are," he said.


Meanwhile, ESPN is trying to lock up high-definition rights anywhere it can. Even with programming deals that don't specify anything about high definition, ESPN has certain claims to national exclusivity that can keep In Demand or anyone else from snagging high-definition rights to particular properties.


"It is very, very unlikely we would ever have the exclusive national rights to a telecast and let anyone else use it the same way," said Bryan Burns, ESPN's vice president of strategic business planning and development. "It just doesn't make any sense."


But potentially complicating matters is the fact that In Demand is owned by ESPN's largest customers, Comcast, Time Warner Cable and Cox, meaning that ESPN may not try to lock In Demand out of certain sports deals for fear of angering those companies.


And still unresolved is just what leagues like MLB and the NHL can do involving rights to games not shown on ESPN or its affiliated networks. That subject is still being interpreted and clarified by the leagues, said high-level sources involved in that process, but ESPN is exerting considerable influence on all these decisions.


Burns said ESPN was having "ongoing discussions" with MLB regarding high-definition rights. The NHL, which this summer wants to renew the national television contract it has with ESPN and ABC, is unlikely to make any move with high definition that would run afoul of ESPN's wishes.


Doug Perlman, the league's senior vice president of television and media ventures, said the league has had "preliminary" conversations with In Demand, but that it is "tough to say how they'll play out."


"We would certainly want to make sure ESPN was comfortable with it," he said.


There is precedent for programmers doing separate high-definition deals with leagues that have national contracts with ESPN.


Mark Cuban's HD Net has a multiyear agreement with the NHL. The deal is contractually linked to the league's "Center Ice" out-of-market subscription package, but HD Net pays the league a separate rights fee and shows games nationally separate from Center Ice. MLB had a deal with HD Net that expired after last season.


Cuban, who invested more than $100 million behind the launch of HD Net, said he questions whether In Demand has the appetite to be an aggressive bidder for sports rights, because its league subscription packages are not profitable and cable operators are already fuming over the costs of sports programming.


"In Demand has not been able to make money on sports," Cuban said in an e-mail message. "At a time when their ownership is balking at subsidizing sports costs, it will be interesting to see if they will allow them to be big deficit spenders for sports rights and productions."
 

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I don't think this article (in the current issue of Sports Business Journal) provides any definitive answers, but it sure gives some hints about the delay for Mark and MLB in HD.


To wit: "....ESPN is exerting considerable influence on all these (HD) decisions. "


So now Disney not only has put together a business plan that keeps ESPN HD off most providers, but is keeping us from seeing games we did get in the past.
Sometimes I hate it when I'm right. It doesn't happen often, so of course this is when it does. Come on though, is anybody really surprised by this? Plenty of us speculated that this would be the case and it appears we were dead on. That's too bad. At least I get the occassional Mets game in HD on WPIX-11.
 

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Well, the lack of response by anybody at MLB is pretty disappointing. And I wish one of the numerous HDNet employees that frequent this board would give some type of heads up on what is going on since we are almost 2 months into the season. Do they really think we are just going to forget about MLB because of the MLS contract? (I'm sure they don't, but they might as well think that since nothing has been said)


This whole thing is pretty silly. What's next for ESPN, trying to get rid of MLB EI just so the product isn't diluted?


The genie was out of the bottle long ago, just because it is HD now why does it get put back in??
 

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Well, the lack of response by anybody at MLB is pretty disappointing.
Well, if the letter posted here is any indication, I'm not surprised. Would you respond to a letter accusing you of being greedy? If you want a positive response from a large company (and major league baseball qualifies as a large company), you don't write insulting, angry letters, you write positive, respectful ones that emphasize sensible reasons for them to do what you want them to do. And you show some understanding of the fact that it's a business, not a public service department.
 

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It isn't. And besides, even if I did, that doesn't excuse ignoring a letter/e-mail. I'm a paying customer. I don't know what world you are from if you think any organization that worries about customer service one iota you don't just ignore any letter no matter how it is written. There might be a couple really extreme exception, but I doubt anything generated from this thread qualifies.


Hmmm, well I guess we are talking about MLB, maybe the rules don't apply. :rolleyes:


And just because they didn't respond, I realize it doesn't mean it wasn't read.

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Well, if the letter posted here is any indication, I'm not surprised. Would you respond to a letter accusing you of being greedy?
 

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Ok, who sent the nastygram that got MLB's attention (see the first post in this thread--no more contact info)?


;)


Ok, if MLB doesn't want to answer us, but cares enough to notice, until further notice I assume the dirty little secret is that they are in ESPN's pocket.
 

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There was specific contact info in the first post that was removed.


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Has anyone heard anything from MLB or HDNet (or anyone else) about this year's MLB?
 

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who cares about MLB? lets get minor league baseball in HD!! at least those guys want to play and put on a good game for the fans. I mean something is seriously wrong when the Flubs are doing well. MLB needs to do something quick or the world will end!! take out someone on the Flubs and ruin the team before they actually have a .500 season
 

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Minor league baseball doesn't represent much of a draw for new customers, imo. Last time I went to a minor league game here, most of the seats were empty.
 
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