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How to Improve Black Level on a Panasonic PT-50LCX63 LCD - A Mod Tutorial

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Warning!!! This post contains information that could be harmful to you or your set. Preforming this modification could void your warranty, result in harm to yourself, damage your TV, burn down your house and cause sterility in small lab rats. DO NOT make these modifications until you understand the risks. DO NOT blame me if you break your set or if your wife accuses you of never closing your eyes anymore when you kiss her lips.




I should start by saying that I am a mild black level junkie. While the black level of this set is really quite good for an LCD, I'm a CRT kind of guy. Anyone who is not a black level junkie will be VERY, VERY happy with this set as-is.


After a week with this display I decided that the black level needed improvement. A full calibration with Avia and SM tweaks were not enough to really tame the black level issue. I think that Panasonic decided to sacrifice black level for a VERY bright display. In its brightest mode this thing has near plasma brightness. This leads to an overly bright bluish gray as the darkest black this set can produce. Contrast is excellent but most scenes have a "fog" over them and dark scenes can be nearly unwatchable for a black level junkie. The user menu and service menu provide no real control over bulb brightness, just the LCD shutters. The LCD panels are incapable of blocking all of the light. The combination of these two factors produces gray blacks.


To control black level I decided to reduce light output. The easiest way to accomplish this is to add a filter to the optical engine. The high intensity discharge lamp in the set does not lend itself to a variable level control(a dimmer). The best filters to use are gelatin filters. These are used to modify image forming beams without introducing aberrations. You should not use stage lighting or theatrical gels. The filter you want is a Kodak Wratten Gel Neutral Density 4x4. The package looks like this:

http://www.perrigoue.com/photo/avs/IMG_2432.JPG


These can be found a pro photo shops and online photo supply houses. They come in many strengths, ranging from 0.10 to 3.00. 0.30 is one stop(50%), 0.60 is two stops (75%). The percentage refers to the amount of light the filter blocks. I bought 1,2 and 3 stop filters to experiment with. After careful evaluation I have decided one stop is about right for me. Black level is significantly improved, scenes are more 3D, dark scenes have improved shadow detail and color. The blue tint in deep shadows is totally gone. Blacks are mostly black, still a tiny bit gray. Bright scenes are still plenty bright and punchy. The set is perfectly viewable in my well lit living room with the sun coming in the skylight and 8x10 glass doors. Two stops is perfect for lights out movie watching, even better than one stop but too dim for daylight viewing. Blacks are truly black without crushing. If you are only using this set for nighttime movie watching I recommend two stops.


In order to preform this mod you will need:


A ND filter

A cardboard filter mount(I used Cokin 84mm X 99mm mounts)

Scissors

Dental Floss

Clear Tape

Latex Gloves

Phillips Head Screwdriver

Be Stupid Enough to not care about your warranty, fire or the whole rat sterility thing.


Step 1: Put on the gloves.


Step 2: Trim the sides of the cardboard mount to allow the image to pass unhindered.(see image below)


Step 3: Mount the filter in the cardboard mount. Use the clear tape to keep it closed, not the built in double sided tape.


Step 4: Poke a hole in the lower left or right corner and thread about 12 inches of dental floss through the hole, tying off one end.


You should now have something that looks like this:

http://www.perrigoue.com/photo/avs/ImG_2427.JPG


Step 5: Unplug the set.


Step 6: Remove the front plastic bezel and remove the projection unit adjustment cover in the center. It should look like this:

http://www.perrigoue.com/photo/avs/ImG_2424.JPG


Look inside the set right above the projection lens assembly(the big round black thing sticking up through the hole). Notice the righteous little "shelf" behind the lens. This is what the back edge of the filter will rest on. Feel inside the opening just above and in front of the lens. You will feel a little shelf sticking out. The front edge will rest on that. The next step is the hardest part:


Step 7: Slide the filter, tail-end-up(the one with the trimmed sides) through the opening in front of the lens assembly. Use both hands. The idea is to get the front edge of the filter onto the little front shelf. Once it's there let the tail end flop over to cover the lens. This sounds way harder than it is. Once you are looking at the set this will make sense.


Step 8: Pull down lightly on the dental floss and use one finger to push up on the front edge of the filter. This will help the filter settle in over the lens. The dental floss also prevents the filter from getting lost in the set if you somehow dropped it. Center the filter over the lens. Here are before and after shots:

http://www.perrigoue.com/photo/avs/ImG_2428.JPG

http://www.perrigoue.com/photo/avs/ImG_2429.JPG



Step 9: Put the cover back on and plug the set back in. Turn it on and look for blocking of the image on the top, bottom and sides. If there is any, turn the set off, unplug it and move the filter in the direction of the blocked edge. Repeat until the image is clear.


Step 10: Put the cover back on leaving the dental floss hanging out(this will prevent the filter from moving in the set) and snap the bezel back in place.


Step 11: Recalibrate and enjoy! I use Cinema mode for lights off HT and Standard mode for daylight viewing. You should calibrate Standard mode during the day with normal room light levels and Cinema at night with the lights off. Standard will have higher Picture and Brightness settings.



Joe
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Wont you get the same effect by lowering the levels of the set? It does increase black levels, though by the pics at the cost of shadow detail.


Excellent post with great detail!!
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Wont you get the same effect by lowering the levels of the set? It does increase black levels, though by the pics at the cost of shadow detail.


Excellent post with great detail!!
No. The only way to lower the light leakage at 0 percent input is to use a filter tweak. This does not change shadow detail if done properly. No photograph is going to capture this properly because it does not have sufficient contrast ratio and it does not respond to light the same as your eye.
JoePerri,


Many LCD sets would benefit from a color correction filter as well. Did you look at your set with a Kodak Color Print Viewing Filter Kit to determine if it would benefit from a red (cyan blacks) or yellow (blue blacks) filter. You probably could also increase the contrast ratio if that was the case.
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Wont you get the same effect by lowering the levels of the set? It does increase black levels, though by the pics at the cost of shadow detail.


Excellent post with great detail!!
Thanks. AS UMR said that is not how it works. The pictures just don't show all of the detail. Black level is greatly improved with no loss of shadow detail or black crush. The picture is substantially better.


Joe
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JoePerri,


Many LCD sets would benefit from a color correction filter as well. Did you look at your set with a Kodak Color Print Viewing Filter Kit to determine if it would benefit from a red (cyan blacks) or yellow (blue blacks) filter. You probably could also increase the contrast ratio if that was the case.
I have been unable to locate the print viewing filter kit. I'll check the net next. My next step is to get some hard data on the color decoder and tracking. I plan on acquiring a colorimeter and the necessary software. Additionally I haven't been able to figure out the service menu yet. The service manual is no help at all. It contains no information about the SM. The register labels are "simple" not technical. There seems to be two service menus, one of which no one can currently access. There is rumor that all color correction/gamma/white balance work must be done with a stand alone PC app connected via the serial port. Additionally some of the Sm controls only have an effect while the SM is displayed. I have been unable to tell which of the panels is hitting the limit first. I'm just getting started though... ;)


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I have been unable to locate the print viewing filter kit. I'll check the net next. My next step is to get some hard data on the color decoder and tracking. I plan on acquiring a colorimeter and the necessary software. Additionally I haven't been able to figure out the service menu yet. The service manual is no help at all. It contains no information about the SM. The register labels are "simple" not technical. There seems to be two service menus, one of which no one can currently access. There is rumor that all color correction/gamma/white balance work must be done with a stand alone PC app connected via the serial port. Additionally some of the Sm controls only have an effect while the SM is displayed. I have been unable to tell which of the panels is hitting the limit first. I'm just getting started though... ;)


Joe
Using a color correction filter will not work unless you can alter the white balance. I hope you are successful in accessing these things.


A colorimeter is of limited value on an LCD set unless it is calibrated for that light source. I would get an optical comparator instead. This all assumes you can modify the white balance of course.


Good Luck!
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Modifying white balance is proving to be tricky. The damn SM controls are goofy. For example; there are controls labeled "Level R", "Bright R" and "R Level" in addition to what appears to be the cuts labeled "R Level L" and "R Level H". Some seem to have no effect at all, those that do, have a different effect when the SM is displayed and during normal operation. Very frustrating.


Joe
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Modifying white balance is proving to be tricky. The damn SM controls are goofy. For example; there are controls labeled "Level R", "Bright R" and "R Level" in addition to what appears to be the cuts labeled "R Level L" and "R Level H". Some seem to have no effect at all, those that do, have a different effect when the SM is displayed and during normal operation. Very frustrating.


Joe
Frustrating or not, you are doing an excellent job! Thanks ever so much for the instructional post. I'm not going to try it myself unless I encounter something that makes the blacks look really bad, as I am currently happy with my settings. But, your end result pictures look very promising & may sway me to try it myself. Thanks again!
JoePerri,


1. You should get a job writing manuals. Excellent instructions and good work on the filter! Blacks definitely better. The thing that stands out to me the most is when watching a movie in the 2.35:1 aspect ration I hate seeing the "grayish" unused TV area of my Samsung DLP at night. That has decreased to a very tolerable level on your set.


2. I doesn't appear much shadow detail has been lost at all but the whites on the set in the after state aren't quite as white. If the brightness is turned up higher does that help with that much or is that the after affect of the filter?


3. Would you really void your warranty by doing this? It looks like what you've done is simple enough to undo that no one would know the difference unless you phyisically broke something.
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3. Would you really void your warranty by doing this? It looks like what you've done is simple enough to undo that no one would know the difference unless you phyisically broke something.
I was actually wondering the same thing, but a bit differently. When removing the front panel & doing your mod work, did you see anything that might indicate to a tech that someone had been messing around? Such as labels covering screws, etc? It would certainly be easy enough to undo such a mod before a tech ever saw the set.


One other comment. You aren't afraid of that bit of dental floss catching fire? That bulb puts out some serious heat, so I would imagine that at the very least, all the wax would melt off.
I'm going to buy some tonight!


Peter
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I'm going to buy some tonight!


Peter
Dental floss?
only if it's mint.


An idea inspired by the sunglasses that darken in the sunlight. Do they make the opposite? Filters that are dark when less light is hitting them, but more transparent when more light is? That would solve the brightness problem.


Peter
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JoePerri,


1. You should get a job writing manuals. Excellent instructions and good work on the filter! Blacks definitely better. The thing that stands out to me the most is when watching a movie in the 2.35:1 aspect ration I hate seeing the "grayish" unused TV area of my Samsung DLP at night. That has decreased to a very tolerable level on your set.


2. I doesn't appear much shadow detail has been lost at all but the whites on the set in the after state aren't quite as white. If the brightness is turned up higher does that help with that much or is that the after affect of the filter?


3. Would you really void your warranty by doing this? It looks like what you've done is simple enough to undo that no one would know the difference unless you phyisically broke something.
Thank you for the kind words.


My biggest complaint was the gray "black" bars in 2.35:1 movies. This mod has substantially reduced the problem. I am totally happy now. The frustration I felt in some darker scenes is gone.


The whites look great. Even if they were slightly gray, there is no point of reference so your mind sees pure white. Kind of cool.


I don't know if you would void your warranty. This mod leaves no evidence whatsoever. I could remove the filter in 5 minutes right before a tech showed up and he would never know a thing.


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only if it's mint.


An idea inspired by the sunglasses that darken in the sunlight. Do they make the opposite? Filters that are dark when less light is hitting them, but more transparent when more light is? That would solve the brightness problem.


Peter
I believe they do, but the response time would be abysmal.


Joe
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I was actually wondering the same thing, but a bit differently. When removing the front panel & doing your mod work, did you see anything that might indicate to a tech that someone had been messing around? Such as labels covering screws, etc? It would certainly be easy enough to undo such a mod before a tech ever saw the set.


One other comment. You aren't afraid of that bit of dental floss catching fire? That bulb puts out some serious heat, so I would imagine that at the very least, all the wax would melt off.
No stickers or tamper proof anything. Totally stealth.


The bulb must get very hot but the projection unit does not. I put my fingers in front of it and could not feel any heat at all. (Don't do this, you could get electrocuted or get UV burns.) The light is only 100W, most of the waste heat is generated in the bulb compartment.


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These are the kind of threads that make this site great.. excelent information. Even though I don't have an LCD display, I am sure this could be tailored to other digital displays like DLP.
Joe:


Thanks - really great info documented so clearly that even I'll be able to give this a try. :)


Since you're leading the charge into the great unknown w/the Panny LCDs, I was wondering if you have any info on service menus (how to get into them, how to reduce red levels are the two things that I'd like to know how to do).


Thanks,


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