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Just returned my Tivo.. What a nightmare.. besides the fact the tech support guy had me unplug it and replug to try and make it work with my Sat A50 and then told me it wont work.. It lost all configs and program guides.. he said to wait a few hours.. I waited about 10 hours - Just enough for Circuit ****y to open back up and return this mess of junk...


Back to my question... I hope like hell the video pass through is better than Tivo.. I noticed a 30-40% loss of signal through TIVO.. Yikes, I buy all this HD gear and nice stuff and then to lose quality - No good.. How is replay ??????????
 

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As unfortunate as your experience was, I feel compelled to offer a few points of clarification:


1. TiVo does not lose configurations, program guides, recorded programming, Season Passes, or anything else when you unplug it. What you experienced was obviously some sort of highly abnormal, catastrophic failure.


2. TiVo does work with the A50, but unless you have the newer Sony firmware, you need to use IR instead of serial.


3. I suspect you are going to get the same answer to your picture quality question here as you would have gotten in the TiVo forum. Namely, the majority of everyone is perfectly happy with their picture quality. Although, most reviews give TiVo the edge on picture quality. It sounds like you may be a more discriminating viewer than most of us. So, the only way for you to get an answer is to purchase a ReplayTV and see for yourself.


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Hold on a second.. Spoke with Sony, there is no upgrade for the Sat A50 currently to work with TIVO.. Using the Ir blaster is not a solution. It's slow and not 100% accurate.. As far as the video quality goes, JAB stated there is no pass through. I must be nuts considering that my TIVO ( That I used to have) took the Svideo from my DSS and passed it through to my TV and lost about 30-40% of the picture quality. It is very obvious they are not doing a good job at handling the video. JAB mentions that I must be critical. Who isn't when their spending alot of money for nice things that should enhance their life not degrade it.


The TIVO degrades the picture badly, and thats all there is to it!!


Don't know if the Replay does the same, but I will tomorrow when it gets here, and if it does then shame on them to. I bet Replay will fix it alot faster than a monster like Philips. It is apparent that Replay puts out upgrades which is something on a system like this that people want.

 

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<desperately trying to find the pin on the fire extinguisher> http://www.avsforum.com/ubb/wink.gif


First, there's nothing that's meant to be of personal offense in my comments, so please don't take them that way. Second, I'm not interested in a TiVo vs. ReplayTV debate either. I'm merely presenting additional information that's relevant to the original post.


Perhaps the person you spoke with at Sony is mistaken. It does happen.


I can understand that you find IR unacceptable. That doesn't change the fact that it does work and TiVo can control an A50 that way, contrary to your original post.


I use IR with DISH and it works reliably. I'll grant that it is slower than serial presumably would be. Since the point of having a PTV is time-shifting, and I spend all my time watching pre-recorded content, this doesn't bother me.


There is no pass-through. If there were a pass-through, the video would be, well, passed through. http://www.avsforum.com/ubb/smile.gif Instead, both TiVo and ReplayTV take the incoming S-Video, compress it, store it to the hard disk, retrieve it, decompress it, and put it on the S-Video outputs. This is not a pass-through. If you see a difference between the original S-Video source and the S-Video output while watching Live TV, this is is why.


I said you were discriminating, not critical. Most people would take that as a compliment. I didn't claim that you should like the picture. I merely pointed out that you aren't likely to get a useful response to your question since most other people do like the picture on their TiVos and ReplayTV's. I was trying to be helpful.


I hope you are happier with your ReplayTV than you were with your TiVo, and I look forward to your comments on the ReplayTV. This doesn't change the fact that I feel your experience was atypical.


---Jim


[This message has been edited by JAB (edited December 15, 1999).]
 

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And just to step back a little and add a point that was missed in his second reply...


There IS a version of the Sony 50 series SAT receiver out there(maybe not yours), which WILL work with TiVo serial control.


It's a documented fact.
 

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Hold on a second..I must be nuts considering that my TIVO (that I used to have) took the Svideo from my DSS and passed it through to my TV and lost about 30-40% of the picture quality.
Your TiVo may have done that, but none of my three TiVos have any problem.


Your TiVo experience was no more typical than Harmon's ReplayTV experience was typical. (See http://www.avsforum.com/ubb/Forum13/HTML/000288.html ).
 

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You are correct, I have a Tivo and a Show Stopper both work w/ a serial

connection on my Sony B50 however it is not the digital one. I am waiting for. umm HD-PTV http://www.avsforum.com/ubb/smile.gif I hope next year or so..


I just wish they would add PPV support for the Show Stopper..I don't care

if it does not give listing info, But it would be nice to see what's on so

I don't have to switch to my Tivo to see. Sorry for the off topic stray.

Both of these units have pros / cons just pick 1 or both http://www.avsforum.com/ubb/smile.gif If you can.

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Originally posted by Oh2Smooth:
And just to step back a little and add a point that was missed in his second reply...


There IS a version of the Sony 50 series SAT receiver out there(maybe not yours), which WILL work with TiVo serial control.


It's a documented fact.
 

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Yup I saw that after I posted this, but I don't think it was a 3.0 feature

because I have the Show Stopper and they wont update it until they feel like it, so I guess I like many others are going to have to wait.....

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Originally posted by Gil T. Pleasure:
Wild_One, I think 3.0 ads PPV support but not the PPV info.


Read this thread for more info: http://www.avsforum.com/ubb/Forum13/HTML/002032.html



Just keeping this thread alive...
 
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