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HP BP5000 UST Home Theater Projector

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AV_Integrated

Discussion Starter · Jun 12, 2021

Has anyone seen any reviews or news on this yet?

The 6,000 lumens claim seems like it is ignoring all industry standards and I have no idea if this model ends up under $3,000 or not.

HP BP5000 Laser Projector

HP BP5000: 4K UST Liquid Cooling Laser Projector

www.hpvisual.com

Didn't see any other posts or much of any news at all. HP certainly isn't one who would be called a player in the home theater market, so details are thin, at best.

Wondering of course about how bright it actually will be in testing.
Wondering what type of 'smart' integration it offers, if any.
Wondering about integrated support for surround sound such as ARC/eARC connectivity.
Wondering if it can actually do 150" diagonal without issue as they jump back and forth between 150" and 120" on the website a bit too much.

For those in the UST market, this may be nothing more than a footnote or vaporware, but it is a potential new product that may interest those looking for another major manufacturer.

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PixelPusher15

· #2 · Jun 12, 2021

Listed on Projector Central: HP BP5000 DLP Projector

That site you linked says HP Licensee which means to me someone else is making this thing with the HP logo slapped on it. ALDP is a Chinese brand light source. The eye protection thing seems to be common with the Chinese UST projectors as well, if I'm not mistaken. It says native 4K which really has me curious but considering everything else is pointing in the Chinese manufacturing direction I'm going to take all these listed specs with a grain of salt. Not saying it won't be a good projector but lets see it once it is, or if it is released.

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AV_Integrated

Discussion Starter · #3 · Jun 24, 2021

Well, they've put up a Indiegogo page...

HP BP5000: World-1st Silent 4K Laser Projection TV

www.indiegogo.com

This makes it pretty clear that it isn't HP making the product, and it doesn't sound like HP has almost anything in the way of involvement. This may be a good/bad thing in certain regards. Not like HP is known for their amazing projectors.

It is good that they have specifically stated that the projector only delivers 2,000 ANSI lumens. I would bet that someone did have a conversation with them about the continued claims of 5,000+ lumens all over the place when that is nowhere near their real output number.

Gotta say that I love the pure liquid cooling as a concept. Heat pipes have been used in laptops for years and years. The idea of making a 100% liquid cooled projector is next level. That really could be a wonder if it could make it into other laser-based projectors. Especially from the high contrast models. I mean, can you imagine a JVC or Sony with a liquid cooled LCoS projector? No moving parts at all could significantly impact product life.

Anyway, the selling price is right in line with the competition. The lower brightness may seem like it is a major issue, but I expect that it may actually reach the lumens it claims, which is one up on a lot of the competitors.

Now... does it look better than the Optoma P2?

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PixelPusher15

· #4 · Jun 24, 2021

AV_Integrated said:
Well, they've put up a Indiegogo page...

HP BP5000: World-1st Silent 4K Laser Projection TV

6000 lumen | 150" Display from 19 inch | ALPD | HDR10 | Eye-protection | Auto-focus | 25000+ life | Check out 'HP BP5000: World-1st Silent 4K Laser Projection TV' on Indiegogo.

www.indiegogo.com

This makes it pretty clear that it isn't HP making the product, and it doesn't sound like HP has almost anything in the way of involvement. This may be a good/bad thing in certain regards. Not like HP is known for their amazing projectors.

It is good that they have specifically stated that the projector only delivers 2,000 ANSI lumens. I would bet that someone did have a conversation with them about the continued claims of 5,000+ lumens all over the place when that is nowhere near their real output number.

Gotta say that I love the pure liquid cooling as a concept. Heat pipes have been used in laptops for years and years. The idea of making a 100% liquid cooled projector is next level. That really could be a wonder if it could make it into other laser-based projectors. Especially from the high contrast models. I mean, can you imagine a JVC or Sony with a liquid cooled LCoS projector? No moving parts at all could significantly impact product life.

Anyway, the selling price is right in line with the competition. The lower brightness may seem like it is a major issue, but I expect that it may actually reach the lumens it claims, which is one up on a lot of the competitors.

Now... does it look better than the Optoma P2?

What is an optical lumen? lol. Is it a real thing? Seriously.

The liquid cooling is pretty neat if it works. These Chinese ALDP laser projectors get good reviews at Passion Home Cinema by Greg. I wouldn't be surprised if it is actually good but I'm just unsure if it will get good traction in the NA.

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Brajesh

· #5 · Jun 24, 2021

No 3D unfortunately, or I'd try it.

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DunMunro

· #6 · Jun 24, 2021

PixelPusher15 said:
What is an optical lumen? lol. Is it a real thing? Seriously.

The liquid cooling is pretty neat if it works. These Chinese ALDP laser projectors get good reviews at Passion Home Cinema by Greg. I wouldn't be surprised if it is actually good but I'm just unsure if it will get good traction in the NA.

Liquid cooling is used by lots of laser/LED projectors:

Test: Technischer 4LED Aufbau des BenQ X1300i | Cine4home.de

BenQs neuer Gaming-Beamer liefert Dank innovativer LED Lichquelle bis zu 3000 Lumen bei leiser Belüftung. Wir zeigen die Vor- und Nachteile des Aufbaus.

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but typically there's a fan that will help dissipate the heat from the radiative element.

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AV_Integrated

Discussion Starter · #7 · Jun 25, 2021

PixelPusher15 said:
What is an optical lumen? lol. Is it a real thing? Seriously.

I'm pretty sure when manufacturers don't talk about ANSI lumens they are talking about the rated brightness of the light source itself. So, if you buy a LED flashlight and it claims '6000 lumens!' - That is a claim that speaks directly about the light itself. It isn't talking about how much light comes out of the flashlight that you can actually utilize. Because of the optics involved in a projector, you lose a TON of light. So, in this case, while the laser can generate 6000 lumens (or so), the projector itself loses 2/3 of that light output in the optical path. This is why ANSI lumens are so much better. It is an honest(ish) representation of actual light output.

In reality, it would be nice if there was a standards organization which properly and fully measured projectors that could be used and considered as a actual gold standard for measurements. But, that's really hard with lamp variations and the time it takes to calibrate projectors. It is good we get decent websites which do good reviews.

I am also interested to see how their completely passive cooling solution fares. I think that it is a very unique idea to put into implementation and hope it works well. Would love to see this become a standard in home theater models. I can definitely see the JVC/Sony crowd getting extremely excited about getting a good laser light source and combining it with LCoS and having absolutely ZERO noise from the projector in a passive cooling solution. That would truly be next generation.

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PixelPusher15

· #8 · Jun 25, 2021

AV_Integrated said:
I am also interested to see how their completely passive cooling solution fares. I think that it is a very unique idea to put into implementation and hope it works well. Would love to see this become a standard in home theater models. I can definitely see the JVC/Sony crowd getting extremely excited about getting a good laser light source and combining it with LCoS and having absolutely ZERO noise from the projector in a passive cooling solution. That would truly be next generation.

Yeah, you've got me geeking out about it too. The idea of being able to have a projector in its high lamp mode and not have to worry at all about building a hush box or anything would be amazing. Imagine if JVC or Sony did this with a laser though, it would be so freaking expensive! lol

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aerodynamics

· #9 · Jun 25, 2021

Hisense had liquid cooling with the L8 and L10 USTs. They were huge and weighed something like 50lbs. The current L5F reverted back to conventional fan cooling. Wish they would've built off the previous design.

Watching the demo video of the BP5000, it's clear the OS is the same as other Android based USTs, so picture settings will be lacking, ie no CMS. In fact the menus look the same as my Chiq B5U.

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fhu7

· #10 · Sep 14, 2021

the selling point of this projector is that it’s silent… but after listening to this YouTube demo it doesn’t seem so silent.
What are your thoughts?

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