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Originally Posted by mbeutler1203 /forum/post/15481066
Sounds like a great way to acheive the highest quality while minimizing the storage needs per BD. How much longer does your process take per BD vs. say ripping an iso via AnyDVD HD?
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Originally Posted by DJ79 /forum/post/15482116
With DVDs I just extract the main title with the English (or any other original) soundtrack. If there are any extras worth repeat viewing, I just append them as separate titles after the movie.
HD media, however, have interactive menus, so I like to keep them, but I strip the fluff as much as possible.
To make modifications easier (and to eliminate mounting/dismounting), I rip all three formats to folders, not to ISO's. I play the high definition ones with TMT via a custom VMC library/launcher.
HD-DVDs usually don't have much fluff to begin with, and stripping a foreign DD soundtrack or two doesn't buy you much storage space anyway, so I rip everything, and just slightly edit the XPL and ACA files to get: load --> main menu --> play --> movie (no previews/warnings/anything). I've gone an extra mile on Planet Earth to combine it into a single disc image and I modified the menus accordingly (if you've read my posts on the Blu-ray section, then you understand why I have such a strong dislike for BD-J).
Blu-ray is a bit trickier, and usually has lots of fluff, so this is basically the workprocess:
- Rip the entire disc
- Identify the main menu, the main movie, and any extras to keep (at this point I usually remove only the obvious junk)
- Edit the playlists (mpls) to either skip the junk (preferable), or play it for only a single frame (if unavoidable)
- Delete junk
- I don't remux (for the time being). On one disc I've removed the extra dozen of foreign tracks, but the process was so long and cumbersome (tsmuxer, then tsremux) that I never bothered again.
The first few discs took a while to figure out and process like this, but once automated (keeping track of all the mpls, clpi, and m2ts files), it takes about 10 minutes of previewing to identify the tracks and then making the modifications.
What you get is a BD with fully functional menus, extras, and everything, yet again: load --> menu --> play --> movie. If there are any extras worth repeat viewing, you can keep them, otherwise you just remove them, and use the physical disc if you ever change your mind. The menu link just returns you the the menu.
For storage I just use a JBOD array, nothing fancy, the HTPC doubles as a server.
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Originally Posted by protovision /forum/post/15485674
my toolchain/flow (AnyDVD required):
- Rip entire disk with AnyDVD...
or
- Open live disk... (thanks AnyDVD)
- Find main movie playlist using BDInfo
- Create new BD structure with only main movie using TSMuxer (strip out languages, extras)
- Create BD iso using imgburner from above structure/folder
time: 30 - 60 mins
Playback:
- mount ISO using VirtualCloneDrive
- play 'disk' with PDVD
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Originally Posted by jdubbs23 /forum/post/15485739
Does this create a valid BD ISO that preserves the main movie as well as the HD audio formats?
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Originally Posted by jdubbs23 /forum/post/15485449
so when you do step 1 to rip the entire movie, you must be maintaining them as folders correct? Is there a way to just delete these unwanted "junk" files while still maintaining a correct BD file structure for an ISO?
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Originally Posted by DJ79 /forum/post/15488360
Yes, I always rip to folders. However, before I switched from PDVD to TMT, I had to make ISO's, so I'd do the modifications on the hard drive, and once done, then I'd use Imgburn to make an ISO. The folder structure (and ISO's) are at all times fully BD compliant, just with the junk removed. I don't think it would be practical to rip to ISO directly, as you not only have to drop some files, but also modify others.
By the way, I use BDEdit to analyze the structure, and make some modifications with it, and others (BDEdit is not 100% editable, regardless of its name) with a hex editor (I use HxD).
If you use TsMuxer, be aware that it produces non-compliant clpi files. The effect can range from stuttering (different patterns observed on PDVD and TMT) jumping, to none at all, depending on your player. There is a tool that fixes it (Tsremux would fix it too), and as far as I'm aware, it also has issues with TrueHD tracks. I stopped using it long ago.
I've never used MKV.
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Originally Posted by DJ79 /forum/post/15488360
Yes, I always rip to folders. However, before I switched from PDVD to TMT, I had to make ISO's, so I'd do the modifications on the hard drive, and once done, then I'd use Imgburn to make an ISO. The folder structure (and ISO's) are at all times fully BD compliant, just with the junk removed. I don't think it would be practical to rip to ISO directly, as you not only have to drop some files, but also modify others.
By the way, I use BDEdit to analyze the structure, and make some modifications with it, and others (BDEdit is not 100% editable, regardless of its name) with a hex editor (I use HxD).
If you use TsMuxer, be aware that it produces non-compliant clpi files. The effect can range from stuttering (different patterns observed on PDVD and TMT) jumping, to none at all, depending on your player. There is a tool that fixes it (Tsremux would fix it too), and as far as I'm aware, it also has issues with TrueHD tracks. I stopped using it long ago.
I've never used MKV.
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Originally Posted by jdubbs23 /forum/post/15488526
This is interesting. Apparently I read through your first post too quickly. I notice now you mentinoed you rip to folders, and then make the modifications, and delete the stuff you don't want. From there you just leave the folder structure as is on the harddrive with the changes and its OK? I thought I read that you DO use TSRemux.
I'm also very interested in the custom VMC/TMT mounter/launcher you mentioned. Can you provide some more information on that?
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Originally Posted by Mopar_Mudder /forum/post/15488634
Am I reading correct that you can use BDEdit to make the movie ifteslf play right away, skipping all menus.....then delete everything but the main movie from the folders?
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Originally Posted by mbeutler1203 /forum/post/15491793
1 gigabyte might be 10 cents but on a 1TB drive you can probably only store say 20-40 BD's. Most typical motherboards only allow for 6 SATA ports. So a base HTPC for BD playback only would be about $650 for a 1 TB system. Add another $500 for an additional 5 TB and you are at $1150 for a 6TB system. Now you are at 20 cents per gigabyte and now forced to create a NAS device or storage server for additional space. Now you are at the point of needing to install Cat5/Cat6 for transmission back to your front end.
That's my main concern on storage space. What's the average size BD iso file?
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Originally Posted by mbeutler1203 /forum/post/15491793
That's my main concern on storage space. What's the average size BD iso file?
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Originally Posted by mbeutler1203 /forum/post/15491793
1 gigabyte might be 10 cents but on a 1TB drive you can probably only store say 20-40 BD's. Most typical motherboards only allow for 6 SATA ports. So a base HTPC for BD playback only would be about $650 for a 1 TB system. Add another $500 for an additional 5 TB and you are at $1150 for a 6TB system. Now you are at 20 cents per gigabyte and now forced to create a NAS device or storage server for additional space. Now you are at the point of needing to install Cat5/Cat6 for transmission back to your front end.
That's my main concern on storage space. What's the average size BD iso file?