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I had a slight little problem yesterday re-building my HTPC so I thought I would start this thread so others could share their disater stories...


I bought a new Silverstone GD05b case to replace my Coolermaster 360 Elite. I figure this will be an easy half hour-hour swap... Nope.

So I get everything out of the old and into the new only to discover the PSU, a Raidmax Hybrid, will not work in this new case. Too few and too short SATA connectors. So now I'm two hours into this project and realizing I'm going to have to take my trusty Corsair PSU out of my main rig. So now I'm tearing down two rigs...

Any way I get my main rig back together so that nightmares over with.

So back to the HTPC... I had to unplug the SSD SATA cord from my motherboard to reroute it and the damn SATA port pops off the motherboard(one of two SATA 3). Luckily I was pulling straight up when it happened so no bent or broken pins, but now I have to tear the whole thing back down to get the motherboard back out, take it to the table and put it back on(curse ASRock and their loose SATA ports).

4 hours later and it back up and running. Man, usually I'm so meticulous and careful, but yesterday I felt like a hamfisted clod.
 

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Originally Posted by BudgetHT  /t/1415655/htpc-build-horror-stories#post_22131722


I had a slight little problem yesterday re-building my HTPC so I thought I would start this thread so others could share their disater stories...

I bought a new Silverstone GD05b case to replace my Coolermaster 360 Elite. I figure this will be an easy half hour-hour swap... Nope.

So I get everything out of the old and into the new only to discover the PSU, a Raidmax Hybrid, will not work in this new case. Too few and too short SATA connectors. So now I'm two hours into this project and realizing I'm going to have to take my trusty Corsair PSU out of my main rig. So now I'm tearing down two rigs...

Any way I get my main rig back together so that nightmares over with.

So back to the HTPC... I had to unplug the SSD SATA cord from my motherboard to reroute it and the damn SATA port pops off the motherboard(one of two SATA 3). Luckily I was pulling straight up when it happened so no bent or broken pins, but now I have to tear the whole thing back down to get the motherboard back out, take it to the table and put it back on(curse ASRock and their loose SATA ports).

4 hours later and it back up and running. Man, usually I'm so meticulous and careful, but yesterday I felt like a hamfisted clod.

I am not a fan of that case.


It's hard to build in.
 

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I am not a fan of that case.

It's hard to build in.

The Silverstone? It's funny you say that because when I bought it I thought " man it looks great. a place for everything and everything in it's place"... And now that I have done it I have to agree with you. A total PITA.

My wife asked me why I do it. "It was running fine". I know, I know. I guess I just like to torture myself.

The Silverstone looks miles better than the Coolermaster though... IMHO
 

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What do you guys think was so difficult about that case?


If you're trying to cram in a bunch of drives or expansion cards, maybe, but I thought with one HD, an SSD and one card (a Colossus) it wasn't bad at all considering its size and looks. (Actually I used a GD04 but it's the same case internally.)


It's a very popular case around here. A lot of people have used it succesfully.


I do think it helps to use a PSU that's only 5.5 inches deep, rather than a 6" one, but there are still plenty of choices.
 

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I added a fan to my Silverstone ML03B case yesterday

To put it in I had to take out :
  • Take out the top (3 screws)
  • Take out the support beam (2 screws)
  • The motherboard (5 screws), which requires...
    • Taking out the PSU (4 screws), which requires...
      • Taking out the SSD (4 screws)


So, adding a fan requires taking out 18 screws!


I don't find it hard to build though, it's to be expected when everything fits with a couple millimeters clearance...
 

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Biggest PITA case I ever worked with is the Antec MicroFusion Remote 350. First off, I've never seen so many wires inside a case -- two for each fan, wires to and from the LCD/IR receiver and a very long 24-pin power cord with all kinds of SATA, molex and floppy connectors. To get the drive bay out you need to remove the LCD which is super fragiile and flops right out of the bracket or gets stuck and the backlight cable tears off. I hate that case. Hate it. Hate it.
 

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What do you guys think was so difficult about that case?

If you're trying to cram in a bunch of drives or expansion cards, maybe, but I thought with one HD, an SSD and one card (a Colossus) it wasn't bad at all considering its size and looks. (Actually I used a GD04 but it's the same case internally.)

It's a very popular case around here. A lot of people have used it succesfully.

I do think it helps to use a PSU that's only 5.5 inches deep, rather than a 6" one, but there are still plenty of choices.

I think I was just having a really bad day. Usually I'm pretty methodical when it comes to building a computer and everything that could go wrong did...

I almost freaked out when the SATA port popped off. Anyone ever have that happen?
 

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I almost freaked out when the SATA port popped off. Anyone ever have that happen?

Negative, but out of curiosity did the SATA cable have one of those metal "release" mechanisms like in this picture?


I tend to forget that the cables connected the back of my HDD cage have these, and I've just pulled on them without pressing this metal release and messed up the plastic on the back of one of my old hard drives
 

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I am not a fan of that case.

It's hard to build in.

Its got a definite learning curve but after isn't too bad. Definitely better than some of the Mini-ITX cases I have built in which can be the worst.
 

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Negative, but out of curiosity did the SATA cable have one of those metal "release" mechanisms like in this picture?

I tend to forget that the cables connected the back of my HDD cage have these, and I've just pulled on them without pressing this metal release and messed up the plastic on the back of one of my old hard drives

Yes. and I was pushing on the clip. The SATA ports on this particular board all wiggle so it just ASRock using some cheap SATA ports.
 

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Yes. and I was pushing on the clip. The SATA ports on this particular board all wiggle so it just ASRock using some cheap SATA ports.
Never would have used them before reading on these forums, but you can easily see some of the corners they cut to be one of the lowest price manufacturers.


Didn't notice any of my back panel stuff being loose in the two ASRock boards I used, but the case I/O adapters look like the throw away kind that Case manufacturers include with their cases.
 

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I was trying to squeeze a hard drive in an Apevia X-Master case underneath the psu. I ended up bending all the case pins on my motherboard. Everything is hanging tight right now, but I dont know if I'll ever be able to install the board in another case.


Also the psu that comes with that case isn't very good (surprise surprise). The computer crashed every time the ac kicked on or vacuum cleaner was used.
 

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Also the psu that comes with that case isn't very good (surprise surprise). The computer crashed every time the ac kicked on or vacuum cleaner was used.

That's pretty sad... Add some caps across the output
 

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I was trying to squeeze a hard drive in an Apevia X-Master case underneath the psu. I ended up bending all the case pins on my motherboard. Everything is hanging tight right now, but I dont know if I'll ever be able to install the board in another case.

Also the psu that comes with that case isn't very good (surprise surprise). The computer crashed every time the ac kicked on or vacuum cleaner was used.

That's the same case as the Coolermaster Elite 360 just a different front panel. Do have any issues with the length of the case? It barely fit in my rack.
 

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That's the same case as the Coolermaster Elite 360 just a different front panel. Do have any issues with the length of the case? It barely fit in my rack.







kinda not really. it used to sit below my tv. when i got a nicer/larger center channel speaker i bought the little shelf its on. definitely a long case but it seems to work out ok for me. you can see where it sticks out a bit on both sides of the stand.
 

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Originally Posted by Zon2020  /t/1415655/htpc-build-horror-stories#post_22131983


What do you guys think was so difficult about that case?

If you're trying to cram in a bunch of drives or expansion cards, maybe, but I thought with one HD, an SSD and one card (a Colossus) it wasn't bad at all considering its size and looks. (Actually I used a GD04 but it's the same case internally.)

It's a very popular case around here. A lot of people have used it succesfully.

I do think it helps to use a PSU that's only 5.5 inches deep, rather than a 6" one, but there are still plenty of choices.

I built a GD04B (same internally as the GD05B as mentioned) HTPC for my parents and very much liked the case. In fact, I just ordered another GD04B last week for a new HTPC build. With a bit of care during the build this can be a nice case and doesn't waste a bunch of open space like some larger cases. I like the three 120mm fans and the positive ventilation. I have another case that sucks in a lot of dust but not this GD04B. Also have found that I prefer the exposed USB ports on the front of the GD04B, compared to having to flip a lid on my other HTPC case to access the ports.
 

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I think I was just having a really bad day. Usually I'm pretty methodical when it comes to building a computer and everything that could go wrong did...

I almost freaked out when the SATA port popped off. Anyone ever have that happen?
Yeah, it happened to me once. I think the pins on the board-mounted connectors are just pushed into the plastic shell so you can pull it off if you use too much force. The good news is that you can simply push it back onto the connector pins if you're careful. I've had too many bad experiences with the clip-on SATA connectors so I don't use them anymore. As long as the case isn't vibrating for some reason a simple press-on SATA connector should stay put.
 

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kinda not really. it used to sit below my tv. when i got a nicer/larger center channel speaker i bought the little shelf its on. definitely a long case but it seems to work out ok for me. you can see where it sticks out a bit on both sides of the stand.

Yeah That case is long. The front on the Apevia is a lot nicer looking than the Cooler Master... The Cooler Master has that huge "Cooler Master" logo on it that cheeses it up.
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Yeah, it happened to me once. I think the pins on the board-mounted connectors are just pushed into the plastic shell so you can pull it off if you use too much force. The good news is that you can simply push it back onto the connector pins if you're careful. I've had too many bad experiences with the clip-on SATA connectors so I don't use them anymore. As long as the case isn't vibrating for some reason a simple press-on SATA connector should stay put.

Yep that's what I did. Luckily I was pulling straight up on the cord when it came off. I just slid it back on and gently pressed it back onto the holding pins. Seem fine so far.
 

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You guys that have the Silverstone GD05b... Do you have issues with the power button? I noitice I have to push it in faily hard to get it to start.
 

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I have a Silverstone GD05b coming in the mail as we speak for my first attempt at building an HTPC. Now I'm scared!
 
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