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I was typing up an email to Jason at avscience, and as I was typing I thought that it'd make a good General thread for here, so I'll post it here also.


I've been lurking here a bit, and reading the facts, and I'd like to verify that I know what I think I know.


From my understanding HTPCs can do the following (correct me where I'm wrong, and add any benefits that I might have missed):


TV Reception - for this you need a TV Tuner card, some video cards do this. HDTV reception is also available. Question: How does the antena hook up to the card for reception? Just a coax cable, like on the back of a normal TV?


Image Scaling - Increase picture quality. This is what something like the holo3d card would do, correct?


DVD Playing - Better quality than even the best DVD players, correct? DVD Drive is needed of course.


CD/MP3/Other Audio Playing - Tons of software for this.


Possibly DVD-A/SACD? I think I read somewhere that certain sound cards on the horizon will have this ability?


Games - Any PC game can be displayed on the Big Screen, cool.


Pause TV - I forgot this one in the email to Jason, You need the above tuner card, along with software and a BIG Hardrive(s).



Is there anything I missed, or stated incorrectly? I'm also posting this on the Linux HTPC board, because I'm a Linux Nut and would love to do all of the above under Linux.
 

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Can anyone comment on which things above are not available currently under linux? Or is it a matter of they are all available under linux, just more effort is required?
 

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Almost anything you say is currently possible in Linux except DVD-A/SACD and HDTV (for now...), game support is also somewhat limited (you have arcade emulators though...). There are some glitches here and there and yes things are not completely straightforward, but it can be done, if you browse this forum you will find lots of useful info...
 

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I'd add a couple things - any surround formats other than AC3 are currently 'impossible' under Linux, except via spdif passthrough.


I don't _think_ component output is supported directly by the Radeon cards - you'll have to use a transcoder.


Other than that, Linux can do pretty much everything. Just be prepared for a fair bit of time.
 

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I haven’t posted on the Linux AVS forum in a while but that doesn’t mean I have stopped working on my Linux HTPC. I will list out what I have working, what I don’t but will soon have, when I get a chance to get to it ( I am aware there is software and support for it to ) and what I know doesn’t work at the moment.


First off I would like to state that I use Red Hat 8.


Everything that I use can be picked up using apt-get for Red Hat and Synoptic for the apt-get GUI. Both can be picked up at


Here - http://psyche.freshrpms.net/rpm.html?id=244


And here - http://psyche.freshrpms.net/rpm.html?id=244


If you need to read more about apt-get for Red Hat follow this thread here - http://www.linuxnewbie.org/forum/sho...hlight=apt+get




What I have working.




ATI 8500 with 3d, XV and even multi monitor support using the --- ATI Linux Driver Version 2.5.1 --- get it here - http://www.ati.com/support/drivers/l...eon-linux.html


DVD = Xine, Mplayer, Ogle --- all can be picked up through apt-get


Digital Camera = just mount it as a hard drive, works fine. I use Gimp for picture editing.


Games = UT2003, Cube, Serious Sam, and Quake III Arena --- you need to buy these


DVD back up = DVD::RIP and Transcode using the XviD codec with AC3 for audio and Xine or Mplayer for playback --- all can be picked up though apt-get except XviD.


XviD RPM’s can be picked up here - http://129.26.120.57/~frank/rpms/


How to use DVD::RIP can be found here - http://www.exit1.org/dvdrip/doc/index.cipp


And here - http://www.bunkus.org/dvdripping4linux/index.html


MP3 playback = Xmms plus plugin which can be picked up through apt-get


CD burning = I don’t know which one it is it is just the one that came with Red Hat


I also use the standard aps that come with Red Hat such as Mozilla, Gaim and openoffice.org




What I will have working when I get a chance to work on it.





PVR- haven’t looked into it but I know the software is out there for my bt878 tuner


CD riper and mp3 or ogg encoder –I know the software is out there but I haven’t gotten around to getting it installed or even try to get it to work.





What cant be done at the moment.






HD card support


ATI component video adapter – I also have a transcoder so it is not a big deal.


Well if you can think of anything you have working that I don’t or something not mentioned let us know in the thread.
 

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There are no surround sound decoders for linux? dd 5.1, circle sorround?

I am going to be outputting analogue through my card. Of course I don't know if the card I'm going to get is even supported by linux. This is sad news, I was hoping to use it as my htpc as I don't need windows bollocksing up as i'm watching tv.
 

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Here's what I've had working at some point or another:


tvtime - deinterlacer (dscaler for Linux) but couldn't set gbuffers so advanced deinterlacing options wouldn't work


dvd playing - mplayer and ogle worked with very little effort



I recommend Redhat 8.0 for everyone who's starting out. It installs just about everything you need to make your own kernel. Some other distributions don't install the gcc compiler which makes it a pain to compile your own kernel.


Tom
 

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What about on the remote side of things... Can you have like a Pocket PC control your media, like NetRemote and Girder etc with a Win HTPC?
 

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Remotes work well under Linux, see http://www.lirc.org/.

Basically you can do everything with it: many programs (e.g. mplayer, xmms (WinAmp-like for Linux)) do explicitly support lirc, but even if they don't, chances are that you can use it to control a program with it.
 

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So are you saying that I could get the VR3 Linux PDA ( http://www.softfield.com/ ) to be able to remotely control the playback of audio from a Linux box. If all the CD's were ripped to the HD, how would the PDA be able to display what playlist/tracks you want? Is there an equivalent to NetRemote/Girder?


Also does Linux have any decent CD compression program like Monkey's Audio ( http://www.monkeysaudio.com/ ), with no loss of quality


Cheers!
 

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Yes, you will be able to use your PDA (nice gadget, BTW :) ) though you will need an IR receiver to use it - but I guess you can have it anyway if you use it under windows.


Girder's Linux equivalent is lirc, but I do not know anything like Netremote (but it's supposed to run on your PDA anyway, isn't it?)


For lossless compression, see http://flac.sourceforge.net/comparison.html for a good overview of current lossless codecs and if they have support on Linux.
 

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Not sure dabadab, I barely know my way around all this NetRemote stuff with PC's, let alone, under Linux.


It's obviously in its infancy stage... I think for the moment I will focus my attention in getting my PDA to work under a Win2K media server. If things develop for the Linux in this area, which I hope they do, I can migrate later on!


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If you end up with the VR3 Linux PDA, replace a resistor to significantly boost the CIR signal. It has little affect on battery life since IR isn't on all that much anyway.
 

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I don't know what's supported on Linux PDA's, but couldn't you just use a wireless ethernet connection and run the app on the linux HTPC but set your X display back to the PDA? I'd think this would be pretty slick for stuff like XMMS but not useful for DVD of course (unless you could send the control panel portion of a program to a remote display while keeping the overlay on the HTPC). Just a thought...I looked into linux for my old Casio E-125 but have yet to come across a straight howto and I dunno if I want to mess with my IPAQ.


-Trouble
 

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Hi,


Has anybody been successful in sending the x display back to the PDA screen for something like XMMS?


I would really like to get a PDA and have something like netremote. See netremote.org


I think it would work much better than IR because wireless allows two-way communication.
 
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