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Hi all!


I read all afternoon and have a headache by now ;-)

I am still confused with the XCard/PDI combo, plus I am from Europe, so the game is a little different.

But I am sure you can help me - please! :)


Here is my setup/problem:


I have a PC with XCard and DVD-drive.

I have a SHARP LCD-Beamer, but I want to replace it with a InFocus LP650.

Sound is *not* the subject here (No problem with the sound: XCard --> Yamaha DSP-A2).


What is the advantage of using a XCard+PDI combo if I just want to playback DVD's (US NTSC *and* Europe's PAL)?


I understand the S-Video-Out of the XCard is *not* good.


So why can't I but a Radeon with DVI-Out and connect my LP650 via DVI-Out. Then playback DVD with the XCard-Software on fullscreen.

--> Fullscreen-picture on my LP650 via DVI, right?

No...?


Why do I need dScaler? Why do I need a bt656-capture?


Can someone please put it into one picture for me?

Plus:

I have not found a dealer for the pmsvideo.com PDI-card in Europe. Will I need one? :-(


Thank you so much in advance...

Zaran
 

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Your are right, of course. I forgot about that.


That's why you use PDI via BT656, right?


But if the signal was captured via BT656 you can use the DVI-Out to the projector, right?


Thanks!

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The reason that most are using the PDI card is because the XCard output sucks. They are bypassing the XCard Video section by extracting the digital data after the decoder and sending it to the PDI card that captures it so it can be displayed by the video card.


Most are usin the PDI card itself because of convenience (plug and play). You can use the Holo3DGraph (if you have the money) or a modified capture card. There are examples of the modification in some of the earlier threads. Moding the card is not for the faint of heart though as the pins on the chips are very fine and you stand a chance of ruining a perfectly good card.
 

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> S-Video-Out of the XCard is *not* good

This 100% wrong


jkaiser the Xcard output dose not suck.


The thing is must people want to use there DVI port which Xcard dosen't have rigth now.

Why PDI is need so you can overlay in a window on the main video card so it can be display over DVI but becase all the newer video card don't have 26 pin VIP (Video Interface Port) that not possable.


It same thing as what I doing with older Video card which has VIP like what on my nVidia GF2 MX and min older ATI card.
 

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There are reasons why a non DVI user may choose the combo:


The Xcard suffers from the dredded chroma bug. DScaler has a filter to correct it.


XCard player won't render DVD above 480p, but using the PDI combo with DScaler, you can output to whatever resolution you can get to your TV. This includes 1080i through the analog outputs.


Also, Dscaler has many deinterlace algorithms which can improve video sources (as opposed to film sources), and many filters, all of which can improve your TV viewing. Xcard alone doesn't have such functionality.


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(chroma bug) I haven't seen this one that new news to me and no one said anything on Xcard forum about it.

Good point but DVD are not above 480p any way so really there no point in re-scale it.
 

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I heard in joveplayer forum that Xplayer could render more than 480p through its output if the DVD is not protected. Moreover, the box of Xcard has advertising sentence that says it can render 1080i for unprotected DVD. So, I guess it actually can do rending 1080i. I don't know about the PQ of it, though.
 

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You only see that as I under stand it you need high-resolution display, such as a front projector and a six foot projection screen, to really see the problem clearly or very large progressive displays which allowed people to get up close to the screen and see artifact, Martin so may point is 99% of the people will never this which I thing not something to cry over now if I could see this on my 19" monitor I can in sure you I be the first to start bitching about.

Martin it not just a matter of opinion the point is for example let say you have 352x240 clip and you want dbl it to 480 what going happing after you re-scaling it or should say encoding it to 480.

I gesut if you want blow $100 on PDI they can do so but my though is there asking way to much for when TV card come with lot more hardware at 50% less cost then the PDI and have run 2 apps for it to work.
 

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SHS,


Whatever floats your boat! That is to say, let's agree to differ, and leave it at that. I think the point of the original post has been addressed, as least as far as these aspects go. The poster can formulate their own opinion base on what we've said.


Regards,

Martin.
 

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Quote:
XCard player won't render DVD above 480p
I was able to do a registry hack and was able to get many other resolutions out of the Xcard.

Here is where the registry location is at:


HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\\Software\\Sigma Designs\\REALmagic\\20\\Progressive


And here is what they look like(each one is a string value):


Mode0: 720x480p/59.94Hz 720 480 5994 31469 858 0 0 74 0 0 0 0

Mode1: 720x480p/60Hz 720 480 6000 31500

Mode2: 720x480p/72Hz 720 480 7200 37800

Mode3: 720x480p/96Hz 720 480 9600 50400

Mode4: 720x720p/60Hz 720 720 6000 45000

Mode5: 720x720p/72Hz 720 720 7200 54000

Mode6: 1080i/60Hz 1920 1080 12000 33716 2199 87 44 148 1125 5 10 30

Mode7: 1280x720p/60Hz 1280 720 6000 45000 1650 110 40 220 750 5 5 20

Mode8: 720x960p/ 720 960 6000 58680




peace
 
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