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I cant get SR-HD5 to work with cable

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I have cable but i just bought the Mitsubishi SR-HD5 HDTV Satellite Receiver thats supposed to be built for DIrecTV. However, it has cable inputs on the back. Will this work with cable or do I have to buy a cable HDTV receiver? I tried it for cable and it did not work.



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please tell me you're kidding....


This will NOT work with cable, the words Satellite Receiver should have been enough to tip you off to that one. If you know it was built for DirecTV why the heck did you buy it?
It will work with analog SD cable, not HD. It has an NTSC and ATSC tuner, not QAM.
When i scan for channels on my cable, nothing comes up though. If it works with analog SD cable, shouldn't the original channels still show up?


Also, what is QAM...isn't ATSC the ability to watch in HD?


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In this case, ATSC is referring to the modulation system used by over the air broadcasters for Digital TV (DTV), including HDTV. An HD DBS (satellite) set-top-box (STB) will receive both DBS and DTV. The Mitsu you bought falls into this category.


Cable uses a different modulation system for HD, called QAM. None of the DBS STB's have QAM capability. Most cableco's also encrypt HD signals (some do not encrypt local HD), and even a QAM tuner will not receive encrypted HDTV. To receive all cable HD channels, you'll need either a cable STB, or an HDTV or STB with CableCARD capability. The CableCARD is rented from the cableco and it allows you to receive all subscribed channels with your own equipment. CableCARD HDTV's & STB's also receive DTV.


There are some STB's with DTV and QAM capability. In addition to many currently available HDTV's, there are a few STB's with CableCARD capability. See the HDTV STB Synopsis for details.
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Ok thanks...so basically I just have to return this SR-HD5 and get one with QAM capability and then get a cablecard if I want to receive local HD as well as encrypted HD but not get cablecard if i just want local HD (it isn't encrypted where i live)?


What I still dont understand is that, if this doesn't have QAM...does that mean it wont get any cable channels. When i scan for channels, none show up...shouldn't the non-HD ones show up though? Why else would they have an option in the manual for "just terrestrial antenna or cable"?


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Ok thanks...so basically I just have to return this SR-HD5 and get one with QAM capability and then get a cablecard if I want to receive local HD as well as encrypted HD but not get cablecard if i just want local HD (it isn't encrypted where i live)?
Unfortunately, there are only a few choices for a STB's with QAM and/or CableCARD capability. Most units have been discontinued and are hard to find. Here is the link to the HDTV STB Synopsis: http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=179095



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What I still dont understand is that, if this doesn't have QAM...does that mean it wont get any cable channels. When i scan for channels, none show up...shouldn't the non-HD ones show up though? Why else would they have an option in the manual for "just terrestrial antenna or cable"?
You should get analog cable, channels 2-99, whatever your local cableco offers, with the Mitsu. Maybe the Mitsu is not working properly?
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A channel scan is only for over the air digital channels. Analog channels should appear in the guide from a DirecTV database. Did you put your zip code in the setup and select you cableTV provider? If you bought your receiver used, clear the previous owner's settings.
Well I bought another receiver from radioshack today. Just search for the model nuimber at radioshack (I cant post a link until I have made 5 posts).


Accurian HTS 6000



Anyway, I put my cable into it and I set it to Cable STD input. Then it searches for channels and still doesn't find any. I dont understand what the problem is.


It says the signal strength on any channel is "48" and when i disconnect the cable, the signal strength decreases to "8"


I dont have a digital cable box and my provider is comcast cable. People in my area are getting some HDTV channels without digital cable and I just want to be able to do the same but it isn't working.


I also posted this as a separate post in the forum.


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Well I bought another receiver from radioshack today. Just search for the model nuimber at radioshack (I cant post a link until I have made 5 posts).


Accurian HTS 6000



Anyway, I put my cable into it and I set it to Cable STD input. Then it searches for channels and still doesn't find any. I dont understand what the problem is.


It says the signal strength on any channel is "48" and when i disconnect the cable, the signal strength decreases to "8"


I dont have a digital cable box and my provider is comcast cable. People in my area are getting some HDTV channels without digital cable and I just want to be able to do the same but it isn't working.


Please help



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Digital signals across coax is more sensitive than anolog. Analog will work but ghost if the house cable wiring is bad where as digital just won't be received. To determine if this is your problem, connect the tuner in at the source (right at the cable connection box, hopefully you can get it open) and then scan for channels. Then bring it back to the TV and see if any channels are found. If channels are found, then the house cable wiring (or you may have 900 mhz splitters in the house) is the problem else you have another problem.


If you can't scan without the TV, then you'll have to either run a long coax to the TV or move the TV to the connection.
It probably can't tune your cable channels. It is an ATSC tuner only. It can tune cable frequencies but only if the modulation is 8VSB (that is, ATSC type.) Most cable systems uses QAM. Some set top boxes can tune either ATSC or QAM. The Accurion isn't one of them (I just checked my owner's manual).


Depending on how far you are from the stations, you could use an antenna and receive over-the-air HD with it. I'm about 10-12 miles from the major stations here and use a Silver Sensor indoor antenna with it.
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Well I bought another receiver from radioshack today. Just search for the model nuimber at radioshack (I cant post a link until I have made 5 posts).


Accurian HTS 6000



Anyway, I put my cable into it and I set it to Cable STD input. Then it searches for channels and still doesn't find any. I dont understand what the problem is.


It says the signal strength on any channel is "48" and when i disconnect the cable, the signal strength decreases to "8"


I dont have a digital cable box and my provider is comcast cable. People in my area are getting some HDTV channels without digital cable and I just want to be able to do the same but it isn't working.


Please help



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Questi4110,


You're limited to OTA with the Accurian:


"The Accurian receiver is a low-profile design with a minimum of functionality, although it has all the right features and connectors. It’s designed to tune all ATSC-compliant (8VSB) digital TV channels, but will not receive analog (NTSC) signals, nor will it tune in unscrambled digital cable (QAM) programming. "

Accurian STB link
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It probably can't tune your cable channels. It is an ATSC tuner only. It can tune cable frequencies but only if the modulation is 8VSB (that is, ATSC type.) Most cable systems uses QAM. Some set top boxes can tune either ATSC or QAM. The Accurion isn't one of them (I just checked my owner's manual).


Depending on how far you are from the stations, you could use an antenna and receive over-the-air HD with it. I'm about 10-12 miles from the major stations here and use a Silver Sensor indoor antenna with it.
I asumed that the Tuner had QAM capability when I responded before so your explaination is probably correct.
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Originally Posted by Questi4110
Well I bought another receiver from radioshack today. Just search for the model nuimber at radioshack (I cant post a link until I have made 5 posts).


Accurian HTS 6000



Anyway, I put my cable into it and I set it to Cable STD input. Then it searches for channels and still doesn't find any. I dont understand what the problem is.
It's already been explained to you.


To get cable HD, you need a QAM or CableCARD tuner. The HTS 6000 is neither, just like the Mitsu you first tried.


Read the HDTV STB Synopsis.


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Ok so I picked up another HDTV receiver with QAM capability from circuit city today:


Samsung SIR-T451


This time it did find channels in the 80s and 90s.


Some channels do look a lot more clear than others and it does look more clear than before I had the receiver. The channels are like 88-1, 88-2, 88-3, ...


All (maybe most, over 90%) do come in dolby digital (picked up by my surround sound receiver and shown on the bottom of the screen as "digital sound"). However, no channel seems to say HD in the top left corner. All say SD but some are much clearer than others.


Also, I am getting a lot more channels that I didn't have before (like HBO2 and a lot of music channels).


Am I seeing HDTV broadcast or just a clearer picture because I am using the DTV input on 1080i on my television?


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Find the local topic for your area, in the HDTV Locals Forum, and you can find what HD channels are available on your cable system. This varies widely across the country.


If you have the Samsung and your HDTV set up not to stretch, zoom, or fill, HDTV programming will be 16:9 and SD will be 4:3.
If you have a wide screen TV and have the view mode displaying side bars, it will be very obvious when you receive HD content as the picture will be displayed in wide screen. This should occur when Fox, NBC, CBS, ABC, PBS, and possibly WB and UPN are broadcasting HD content. Sometimes you will receive two or more channels from the same station (eg. PBS may be broadcasting on 5 channels) but only one of those is generally HD. In my area, generally the __.1 channels are the HD channels. All the other channels are just digital channels and not HD.


You can go to the following link to see what stations are broadcasting digital and a what times the channels are broadcasting HD. Unfortunately, this site only tells you the digital station numbers that are broadcast via air or the digital channels available when using a digital cable box for you area. Just enter your zip code and select digital broadcast to see the stations that are broadcasting via air. Although the channel numbers will be wrong (also you won't receive all those channels via cable), you should be able to see when the channels should be broadcasting with HD content.

http://www.titantv.com
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Ok i figured out which channels are HD. Apparently the tuner didn't find these by itself so I had to put them in manually.


The game on CBS right now is in HD and it does fill up the whole screen so I dont think that side bars will tell you if it is HD or not.


Anyway, has anyone found an easier way to change frequencies directly on this unit (suppose I want 88-8) rather than just changing it to 88 which starts at 88-1 then hitting the channel up button? (I am talking about the SIR-T451)



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