[fletcher6490]

Ok, so I've pretty much upgraded my HT to my liking but I feel like my sub is lacking. My HT consists of a Samsung LN55B650(TV), Pioneer SC-25(receiver), DefTech fronts BP7006's, C/L/R 2000(center) and surrounds and surround backs are ProCinema 600's with a ProCinema 600 sub. I know my surrounds aren't the greatest but that can be another project down the road. Unfortunately I don't make tons of money but I keep feeling this "ugradis" that I see a lot of you post about and I want my next upgrade to be my sub. Realistically my budget is on the low end but I kinda believe in spending my money now rather than taking it to the grave so....I guess I would have to say the maximum I would spend is around $1300. I don't have my room measurements but I would say it's a rather large room that connects to the kitchen and a hallway and it is also very odd shaped. I like deep thundery bass, which I don't hear with my current sub, it's more of a muddy and thumpy sound. I would say it's a 50/50 split between music and BluRay. I've been trolling around this board for a while and I figured I'd start a thread asking for some good advice, as many of you seem like you definitely know your stuff.


So, does anyone have any good recommendations?

 

[fletcher6490]



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Here is a rough (real rough) layout of my listening area

 

[fletcher6490]

I've been reading a lot of good things about the SVS subs, and I think I might be heading in that direction. Are there any good sites that have decent discounts or can you only get these products from a direct site?

 

[Spur Darren]

Hsu makes some very good subs. http://www.hsuresearch.com/

 

[fletcher6490]



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Originally Posted by Spur Darren /forum/post/18207266


Hsu makes some very good subs. http://www.hsuresearch.com/

Thanks, I've never heard of them before. I'll check em out

 

[fletcher6490]



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Originally Posted by Spur Darren /forum/post/18207266


Hsu makes some very good subs. http://www.hsuresearch.com/

Would you say the PB-12plus is comparable to the ULS-15?

 

[shadyJ]

The PB12 Plus will likely have more output, but the ULS will have greater detail and articulation. If sound quality is your thing, go with the ULS, but if you like massive sound, on your budget I would be looking at the Elemental Designs A7-350 , if you can handle its size and weight.

 

[calnbs]

For $1,300....I would check out the DIY forum and do some homework. If you don't know how to build an enclosure, find someone who can. You can go a Loooong way with DIY. Of course, it's not going to look as nice as a retail subwoofer such as SVS or HSU but IMHO, you get a better bang for the buck.

 

[fletcher6490]



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Originally Posted by calnbs /forum/post/18208348


For $1,300....I would check out the DIY forum and do some homework. If you don't know how to build an enclosure, find someone who can. You can go a Loooong way with DIY. Of course, it's not going to look as nice as a retail subwoofer such as SVS or HSU but IMHO, you get a better bang for the buck.

I'd rather not go the diy route. I tend to screw things up and I'd hate to spend all that money and build myself a dud.

 

[Santapimp27]

Something like this would sound killer

http://www.svsound.com/products-sub-box-newpb12plus.cfm

 

[fletcher6490]



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Originally Posted by Santapimp27 /forum/post/18211525


Something like this would sound killer

http://www.svsound.com/products-sub-box-newpb12plus.cfm

Yeah, I've been checking that one out also. Looks pretty nice. I've got a dumb question, as I'm pretty much a noob and I'm kinda learning as I go but what is the difference between the PB and SB? Also, I've been seeing a lot about "ported" and "sealed" subs but I'm not quite sure what the difference is between them and what it means exactly. Sorry guys, that is probably a really dumb question.

 

[Santapimp27]

Im pretty sure PB is "ported box" and SB is "sealed box." Correct me if im wrong


And ported usually will go louder and lower, but will not sound as clean and tight as a sealed box. Sealed is good for music.

 

[fletcher6490]



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Originally Posted by Santapimp27 /forum/post/18212525


Im pretty sure PB is "ported box" and SB is "sealed box." Correct me if im wrong


And ported usually will go louder and lower, but will not sound as clean and tight as a sealed box. Sealed is good for music.

Ok, cool. Thanks for the info. Man, I wish there was somewhere I could go and test out some of these different subs so I could actually hear the difference.

 

[fletcher6490]



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Originally Posted by shadyJ /forum/post/18208010


The PB12 Plus will likely have more output, but the ULS will have greater detail and articulation. If sound quality is your thing, go with the ULS, but if you like massive sound, on your budget I would be looking at the Elemental Designs A7-350 , if you can handle its size and weight.

Damn, that A7 is HUGE. I think that might be a little big for me.

 

[spyboy]



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Originally Posted by fletcher6490 /forum/post/18212479


Yeah, I've been checking that one out also. Looks pretty nice. I've got a dumb question, as I'm pretty much a noob and I'm kinda learning as I go but what is the difference between the PB and SB? Also, I've been seeing a lot about "ported" and "sealed" subs but I'm not quite sure what the difference is between them and what it means exactly. Sorry guys, that is probably a really dumb question.

Sealed means exactly what is says: The box has no openings, unlike a ported sub which has one or more ports (tubes that open to the exterior of the box.


In general, sealed is more likely to sound better with music, while ported subs generally play deeper and louder for the same money.


SB = sealed


If you value appearance the SVS PB-12 Plus is a more attractive big box than the Ed A5-350.


The PB-12 Plus was recently tested by Sound&Vision magazine and had big-time response right at 20 Hz. Most sealed subs will have begun to roll-off at 20 Hz. So if you want massive output at 20 Hz, the ported PB-12 Plus will give you that.


The A5-350 will deliver a lot of output, but isn't as refined in sound or build quality.

 

[fletcher6490]



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Originally Posted by spyboy /forum/post/18212633


Sealed means exactly what is says: The box has no openings, unlike a ported sub which has one or more ports (tubes that open to the exterior of the box.


In general, sealed is more likely to sound better with music, while ported subs generally play deeper and louder for the same money.


SB = sealed


If you value appearance the SVS PB-12 Plus is a more attractive big box than the Ed A5-350.


The PB-12 Plus was recently tested by Sound&Vision magazine and had big-time response right at 20 Hz. Most sealed subs will have begun to roll-off at 20 Hz. So if you want massive output at 20 Hz, the ported PB-12 Plus will give you that.


The A5-350 will deliver a lot of output, but isn't as refined in sound or build quality.

Ok, so I was looking on the SVS site a little more and I noticed the PB-12 NSD. Why is that model so much cheaper than the plus?

 

[fletcher6490]

Damn, I'm so indecisive it gets frustrating. Bottom line, what sub will give me the most bang for my buck and I would have to say that sound quality is my bigger priority rather than just monstrous bass? If I could get something for under 1k that would be great but I am willing to spend more if it will really be worthwhile.

 

[fletcher6490]

Alright people, I'm pretty certain I'm gonna get the SVS PB-12 plus. If anyone objects, please speak now

 

[goonstopher]



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Originally Posted by fletcher6490 /forum/post/18208620


I'd rather not go the diy route. I tend to screw things up and I'd hate to spend all that money and build myself a dud.

I think you are right. I lost a LOOOOT of money in DIY (about 2-3k)


I hate when people try to make everyone do DIY when it really is not for everyone

 

[goonstopher]



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Originally Posted by fletcher6490 /forum/post/18213693


Alright people, I'm pretty certain I'm gonna get the SVS PB-12 plus. If anyone objects, please speak now

I've had a pb13 ultra and so far I think the JTR captivator is better but that stretches the budget even more once you add in the amp and hpf. The pb13 ultra was awesome so I am sure the pb12+ will be great.


Great thing about svs is you know you will get the sub fast and perfect and it will sound good.