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hi, i don't post much but i lurk a lot, haha.

this visit i have a question.

while building my house i ran 1 s-video for a projector, thats the problem, i only ran 1 and its s-video. now i'm in the need for something that does HD. i'm running a optoma ep721, not the best but this isn't a HT. its in a living room and i use it to watch tv, movies, pictures... but i just got HD cable and want to upgrade the projector in the future.

i'll have to tear into the wall a little bit but i have not choice now.

i've been reading and it sounds like people usually recommend 1 HDMI and 2-3 cat5e or cat6. if you use cat5/6 and this:
http://www.pimfg.com/Product-Detail/HDMI-CAT5-3


what would the quality be like? i never really put HD and cat5 in the same sentence. this will be over about 25'-30' btw.


my other idea was to run a rapidrun, this way i would have many options for the future but i don't know what the quality will be with that either.


what would you guys recommend i do?

sorry for the long read and TIA for the help.
 

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Buy an hdmi cable and test it before you install it. I would also run a cat6 and any other wires you might ever need. Component wouldn't hurt either.


Is your s-video free to move, or did you attach it to something? If it's free to move and you have room, you might be able to attach your s-video to the hdmi and pull it through.
 

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thanks for the reply. i don't think i'll be able to use the s-video because its stapled down and the routing is a little complicated. would i get good quality with a 25' hdmi cable?

thank you for the reply.
 

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Originally Posted by BIGmouthinDC /forum/post/18181403


I have a 40 foot HDMI cable that works without a problem.


for 25 ft something like this:

http://www.monoprice.com/products/pr...seq=1&format=2

I have two 35ft hdmi cables in my house from monoprice without an issue. Just make sure you testit before it goes in your wall. Also run a cat5 or cat6 cable just in case that hdmi fails. Cables are pretty inexpensive so its always good to have a backup of your main cable, and a few extra cables just in case.
 

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Pretty much every cable you can think of should be run and sometimes to more than one place "just in case"...AND they are cheap enough that it is a MUST DO in my book.
 

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ya i'm always overdoing it but i don't know what i was thinking when i wired this room.


thanks for the help guys. it will be atleast a month before i do this but i'll try to keep you updated.
 

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hi guys, one last question.

i've been thinking about how i'm going to go about running the hdmi cable, and reviewing video i took while the house was being built and it looks like i'll have to make some good size holes in my new walls to run it, so my question is, can i run only cat5/6 and use the hdmi extenders or baluins (sp?) with out degrading the signal or other adverse affects?

i've never used these so i don't know how good or bad they are.

i can run the cat 5 pretty easily with fish tape and no holes.

on a good note, my screen just came in yesterday and i can't wait to get it up and running.

thank you all for the help.
 

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fwiw;

My run from A/V closet to PJ snaked is 29'.

For that, I got (1) 10 meter (33') HDMI cable and also ran (2) Cat5e and 3 coax for Component. Cat5e is good for 12v trigger or RS232 control.

If doing it again, I would have run (2) HDMI cables and same (2) Cat5e.

The 2nd HDMI for future-future proof on 3D/4k/whatever. I've never used the component, sure it's back-up in case the HDMI ever goes, but takes up space.
 

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thanks for the replies.

i've thought about using the paintable raceways but i want to keep the clean look and have nothing on the outside.


mtbdudex: if i were to do it again i would run all kinds of wires, through conduit, but now i have to get the minimum done.
 

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Is there any possibility to use this time to add some can lights. 6 inch can lights holes every four or five feet would give you the needed access and when done pulling your new cables install the lights and no holes to patch. This can also be done with existing can lights by removing the small screws that hold the can to the frame.
 

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funny you say that. i do have lights AND 8" speakers which will make it easier to run the wire but the problem is the wall. there is a beam at the end that is about 6" thick. i will have to drill into it so that i can run the wire through it and down the wall. so i will have to cut a square out of the wall (under the beam) and possibly in the ceiling (above the beam) so i can make that turn.
 

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When I had to run speaker wires in my family room (first floor of a two story house) I used crown molding until I could line up the wire parallel to a rafter that was closest to the speaker. Could you do something like that? Use the crown molding (or something else like carpet, basebord etc.) to get the wire to the rafter that leads to the projector. BTW the way I dealt with part where the wall meets the ceiling was to come out of the wall and go into the ceiling, keeping both holes and the wire under the crown molding.
 

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Originally Posted by supratreo /forum/post/18180766


if you use cat5/6 and this:
http://www.pimfg.com/Product-Detail/HDMI-CAT5-3


what would the quality be like? i never really put HD and cat5 in the same sentence. this will be over about 25'-30' btw.


my other idea was to run a rapidrun, this way i would have many options for the future but i don't know what the quality will be with that either.


what would you guys recommend i do?

sorry for the long read and TIA for the help.

I use that exact extender from pimfg without any problems. I can't tell the difference between it or a direct cable.


I was originally going to go with the rapid run cables, but when I started figuring what I needed, the $$ rang up quick. For me CAT5 is free, so $60 for the extender was a no-brainer.
 

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hmmmmm. looks like i have some decisions to make. i do have crown molding so i might try to use that, i just hope i can get it line up like the pros did. also, still thinking about the hdmi extender.

thanks for all your help.
 

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I'd just bust some drywall if you can...(as long as you can fix it). Just a little compond and some paint....all fixed...


I would run...Component, HDMI and 2 Cat5/6 feeds. This will cover all current bases. Some devices still use the analog loop. Also put them all in a tube or something where you can put in the wall so you can put new connections through later..
 
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