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So I'm kickin' over 5000 hours now on the stack and I just have to be honest and say that I don't think that digital is ready yet for my personal viewing preferences.


I've got about 1500 hours left of "quality" viewing which is roughly a year.


Let's see, new LUGS (6), two HDMI input cards for the G90's, HDMI distribution box with the possible addition of the Radiance.


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Still want to mod a spare G90 neck card and give a thomas tube a try?


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Still want to mod a spare G90 neck card and give a thomas tube a try?


Athanasios

Especially the green.



That one is the most critical in my opinion. Art's stock G90 green tube does not focus nearly as well as the LUGS I got from VDC for the stack.


I'm actually suprised after three years now that I am saying this. I'm planning on hopefully seeing the new JVC offerings but I just dont see a lower cost digital that is going to exceed the G90 stacked performance.


A lumis on the other hand, I would not mind getting my hands on either.



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Dude, gettogethers notwithstanding, you watch a LOT of stuff in your theater!


That's really a good thing, I always wonder what the multimillionaires were thinking when they dropped $60K on a Runco 1101s, only to pull it out 10 years later with only 800 hours on the unit...
 

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Originally Posted by overclkr /forum/post/16991172


Let's see, new LUGS (6), two HDMI input cards for the G90's, HDMI distribution box with the possible addition of the Radiance

The Radiance comes with dual HDMI outputs as standard, so no need for the distribution box to each G90 .... unless perhaps you want HDMI to your receiver after the Radiance rather than before
 

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Let's see, new LUGS (6), two HDMI input cards for the G90's, HDMI distribution box with the possible addition of the Radiance.

Um.............don't you need 9 LUGS, 3 HDMI input cards, and 3 radiances (or the optional triple stack version that has 3 HDMI outputs)?


Surely you're not abandoning the Triple Stack????


What's next, going back to 1 CRT, or (aaaaaaahhhhhhhhhh) going to 1 digital, Art?


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Dude, gettogethers notwithstanding, you watch a LOT of stuff in your theater!

Curt, Its not a lot of stuff. Picture 9 LUGS projecting Guitar Hero, 24/7..............
 

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Curt, Its not a lot of stuff. Picture 9 LUGS projecting Guitar Hero, 24/7..............

Sorry, just lost a lot of respect for our friend. Movies- great. Porn- better. Guitar hero? give me a break!
 

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Especially the green.



That one is the most critical in my opinion. Art's stock G90 green tube does not focus nearly as well as the LUGS I got from VDC for the stack.


I'm actually suprised after three years now that I am saying this. I'm planning on hopefully seeing the new JVC offerings but I just dont see a lower cost digital that is going to exceed the G90 stacked performance.


A lumis on the other hand, I would not mind getting my hands on either.



Cliffy


I don't see a low cost solution surpassing 2 or 3 G90s either that's just unrealistic man.. That would have to be a 50k unit, and I have not seen one of those yet either. What were those G90s new 50k each?
 

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The Radiance comes with dual HDMI outputs as standard, so no need for the distribution box to each G90 .... unless perhaps you want HDMI to your receiver after the Radiance rather than before

That's nice to know. Thanks Gino!


I do want three outputs though so I can triple stack from time to time.
 

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Um.............don't you need 9 LUGS, 3 HDMI input cards, and 3 radiances (or the optional triple stack version that has 3 HDMI outputs)?


Surely you're not abandoning the Triple Stack????


What's next, going back to 1 CRT, or (aaaaaaahhhhhhhhhh) going to 1 digital, Art?





Curt, Its not a lot of stuff. Picture 9 LUGS projecting Guitar Hero, 24/7..............

Man I would love to TS but the room just wont allow for it.
 

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I don't see a low cost solution surpassing 2 or 3 G90s either that's just unrealistic man.. That would have to be a 50k unit, and I have not seen one of those yet either. What were those G90s new 50k each?

Yeah it was something like that. If I retube, I will have quite a bit of $$ invested in this setup so I hope they last! Knock on wood so far.
 

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Cliff,


How much do you think this will cost and how what percentage of the 1500 is things like video games? If much, what do you prefer about the G90s for video games?


Jason just posted that the 70k:1 on/off CR mentioned for the highest end new JVC coming (maybe $10k or more MSRP) is with the iris open:
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Those are native contrast...before iris.

These new JVCs would probably be a little brighter than the G90s when the lamp is new if used at the short end of the throw on low mode and then could be put on high lamp mode for some time. And I wonder if they would look a little bit brighter in bright scenes at the same ft-lamberts as the G90s because of the better blacks in those kinds of scenes.


You could extend the lives of those G90s if you could use something else for some of the time. I don't recall how tall you ceiling is, but I would be tempted to go with a smaller pull-down High Power to put in front of your current screen for some video games and things to get 30 ft-lamberts or higher with a digital like the JVCs. You would have to have your speakers going around that smaller screen and through your current screen though.


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Cliff,


How much do you think this will cost and how what percentage of the 1500 is things like video games? If much, what do you prefer about the G90s for video games?


Jason just posted that the 70k:1 on/off CR mentioned for the highest end new JVC coming (maybe $10k or more MSRP) is with the iris open:

These new JVCs would probably be a little brighter than the G90s when the lamp is new if used at the short end of the throw on low mode and then could be put on high lamp mode for some time. And I wonder if they would look a little bit brighter in bright scenes at the same ft-lamberts as the G90s because of the better blacks in those kinds of scenes.


You could extend the lives of those G90s if you could use something else for some of the time. I don't recall how tall you ceiling is, but I would be tempted to go with a smaller pull-down High Power to put in front of your current screen for some video games and things to get 30 ft-lamberts or higher with a digital like the JVCs. You would have to have your speakers going around that smaller screen and through your current screen though.


--Darin

If I go the cheap route, I'm probably looking at about 9 grand for everything. Percentage of video games is about 25%.


I definitely want to see the JVC fo sho. 70k to one with no iris with a digital MEASURED is no joke. It isn't over half a million to one, but not bad.



If anything, I'll just look into getting new screen material. Ruben was supposed to come out with a high gain version of his screen. I wonder if that ever came to fruition?


Ken is coming by tonight. I think I'll have him measure that sample you gave me.



I hope they have improved the motion on the new JVC.


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The new JVCs have FI. How well it works is unknown. 70,000 as we know will not make a knowledgeable CRTer say Look at dem blacks. Almost everything about the new top of the line JVC Dila-HD990 is unknown. We are guessing based on reported European pricing $10,500 to 11,000. Since all JVCs are internet commodities street pricing will undoubtedly be below your cheapest retubing cost. But remember, if you can last another year or so, there will be a better JVC than the HD990.
 

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**** if he like these Thomas tubes I have a retube for both PJ's will be a little more than one VDC tube



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Originally Posted by Curt Palme /forum/post/16991442


Dude, gettogethers notwithstanding, you watch a LOT of stuff in your theater!


That's really a good thing, I always wonder what the multimillionaires were thinking when they dropped $60K on a Runco 1101s, only to pull it out 10 years later with only 800 hours on the unit...

I re-did a nearly half-million$ theater the other day that worked for apparently a week before whatever hobbled together garbage proprietary control system that ran the thing crapped out, and nobody was left around to fix it or get stuff running again, everyone suddenly out of business. Apparently this was quite a few 6-8 years ago. Hilarious, but what a screwed customer that was. Basically ended up getting handed some coals and a rake and told: "here, rake yourself over them..."



It's clowns like this that give the industry a bad reputation. But sadly, with ignorant and trusting customers who want the best, some people will just bull BS out of their asses and take your money.
 

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If you get a digital, once its set up, its more or less turn it on and watch. All the endless playing and tweaking is over. This may or may not be a good thing. Most CRTers love to play, tweak, modify. Is fun to them and probably you Cliffy. All this goes away with a digital though you spend a lot of time keeping up with new models, wanting a newer better one, selling the old, buying the new. Yet I think on balance, at least for me, there is a tremendous net gain in time when I switched. I watch a lot more and never worry much because nothing ever goes wrong. I think at this point its just a matter of preference. Both technologies are good, just different strengths.
 
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