if it wasn't for the PS3 would Blu Ray have a chance?
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No. In fact even with the Playstation Blu-ray would not have had a chance if they had not gotten Disney/Buena Vista, Fox/MGM and Lionsgate to remain exclusive. I shudder to think about what concession those studios got for their allegience.
In the end the hardware advantages of Blu-ray would have fallen on deaf ears of the consumer. They would have seen a glorious HD DVD picture and a $500 player with all but Sony/Columbia movies and that would have been that.
In the end the hardware advantages of Blu-ray would have fallen on deaf ears of the consumer. They would have seen a glorious HD DVD picture and a $500 player with all but Sony/Columbia movies and that would have been that.
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Disney and Fox prefer Blu-ray for what it is and is capable of; not sure why people can't accept that.
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By player sales, PS3 IS blu-ray.
And that's a problem.
By player sales, PS3 IS blu-ray.
And that's a problem.
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No.
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I likely would not have bought the PS3 if it didn't have a Blu-Ray drive. It hit the right price point and I consider it a bargain.
I do not know how Blu-Ray would have done without the PS3 nor how the PS3 would have done without the Blu-Ray drive.
I do not know how Blu-Ray would have done without the PS3 nor how the PS3 would have done without the Blu-Ray drive.
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Yes and the both preferred Divx but that wasn't exactly what consumers wanted was it?
Yes and the both preferred Divx but that wasn't exactly what consumers wanted was it?
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Well, they've learned from their mistakes it seems, and looks like Blu-ray will be the format we're all buying three years from now.
I'm always amused that people equate Sony and Beta, Disney and FOX with Divx... and they think history will repeat. Rather, don't most people learn from mistakes? Get ideas on how to do it better?
Personally I think Sony, Disney, and FOX are all stronger for their previous bad decisions, and willing to dig their heels in harder to make it happen this time.
They've set things up to go so differently this time... have so stacked the deck in their favor... via their own mutual commitment and efforts... that's it's almost a forgone conclusion. They can simply will this to happen; consumer sales data be damned, they know each and every fan of their films will eventually cave in. They can wait for it to happen. Today's HD DVD fan lamenting these companies "lost sales opportunities" will be tomorrow's sale. Same movies... just a year or two later.
Well, they've learned from their mistakes it seems, and looks like Blu-ray will be the format we're all buying three years from now.
I'm always amused that people equate Sony and Beta, Disney and FOX with Divx... and they think history will repeat. Rather, don't most people learn from mistakes? Get ideas on how to do it better?
Personally I think Sony, Disney, and FOX are all stronger for their previous bad decisions, and willing to dig their heels in harder to make it happen this time.
They've set things up to go so differently this time... have so stacked the deck in their favor... via their own mutual commitment and efforts... that's it's almost a forgone conclusion. They can simply will this to happen; consumer sales data be damned, they know each and every fan of their films will eventually cave in. They can wait for it to happen. Today's HD DVD fan lamenting these companies "lost sales opportunities" will be tomorrow's sale. Same movies... just a year or two later.
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I've yet to be convinced that they didn't just blow the dust off the cover of their Betamax strategy and go for round 2.
They certainly wouldn't TRY to block porn on their precious machine or not allow discount manufacture again
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I've yet to be convinced that they didn't just blow the dust off the cover of their Betamax strategy and go for round 2.
They certainly wouldn't TRY to block porn on their precious machine or not allow discount manufacture again
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Both studios have shown that they frequently put their own desires above consumer interest. All companies do this but they seem to have an affinity for doing it in a clueless manner.
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Circuit City actually came out with self-destructing DVD's a couple of years ago that flopped on the market; not sure if Disney and FOX signed on for it or not.
Circuit City actually came out with self-destructing DVD's a couple of years ago that flopped on the market; not sure if Disney and FOX signed on for it or not.
Nah....You would be surprised to know that a lot of folks will just a) not adopt any HD standard for so long that it is moot. b) not buy their movies on their format out of pure principle. or c) Buy their movies on SD DVD and enjoy an almost HD PQ with their upconverting HD DVD player.
I will go for option "C" at this time. The only realities are that SD DVD will be around for a long time and that upconverting HD DVD players get better and better almost nullifying it altogether anyway.
I do imagine some crazy ideas floating around in their little board meetings about how to prevent their SD DVD releases from playing in a HD DVD player. Would not suprise me if they tried.
I like a lot of Fox/Sony/Disney movies - but not enough to convince me the cost of getting Rayed is worth it and CERTAINLY not enough to cave in to their "our way or no way" tactics.
Nah....You would be surprised to know that a lot of folks will just a) not adopt any HD standard for so long that it is moot. b) not buy their movies on their format out of pure principle. or c) Buy their movies on SD DVD and enjoy an almost HD PQ with their upconverting HD DVD player.
I will go for option "C" at this time. The only realities are that SD DVD will be around for a long time and that upconverting HD DVD players get better and better almost nullifying it altogether anyway.
I do imagine some crazy ideas floating around in their little board meetings about how to prevent their SD DVD releases from playing in a HD DVD player. Would not suprise me if they tried.
I like a lot of Fox/Sony/Disney movies - but not enough to convince me the cost of getting Rayed is worth it and CERTAINLY not enough to cave in to their "our way or no way" tactics.
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And that's your choice as a consumer. I mean seriously... I don't know how else to put it. I just don't see the drama here a lot of people do. Are people bitching because the Mac OS is closed-system? People need to get realistic in knowing that corporations *do* pursue their own interests at times, and sometimes yes, those interests even mean they'll turn down consumers dollars to get things on their terms. I don't see what the probem is once BD players hit $500 or so; what flag or ideal will you be representing in not just getting a player and buying the movies you like?
And that's your choice as a consumer. I mean seriously... I don't know how else to put it. I just don't see the drama here a lot of people do. Are people bitching because the Mac OS is closed-system? People need to get realistic in knowing that corporations *do* pursue their own interests at times, and sometimes yes, those interests even mean they'll turn down consumers dollars to get things on their terms. I don't see what the probem is once BD players hit $500 or so; what flag or ideal will you be representing in not just getting a player and buying the movies you like?
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