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I have recently come in to some B&W 702 S2s, my plan for which is to use as a 2-channel music only system in a more formal entertaining space (open concept great room/kitchen that's like 16'x35').
Space otherwise being tight, I am locked in on an integrated amp for this system. Phono stage desired but optional...will also be used with CDs and streaming. Want to spend less than $4k.
Like I said, I'm a bit of a noob to all this gear and am already overwhelmed and intimidated by what research I've done:confused:. This is a somewhat hard time to be doing this because I really don't want to be going in to places to audition equipment (nor do I really want anyone coming in here), but I also like, really want the equipment because I'm home all the time!

Looking for some advice/suggestions for pairing so I can narrow things down a bit.
I guess the question is: what would you pair with the 702 S2s as a music-only integrated amp?
 

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You might want to call Crutchfield and ask them for suggestions to get started. I know they sell those speakers and like them so much that they rated them their best high-end floor-standing loudspeakers for 2020. They have a generous 60 day return policy.
 

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Congrats on the nice speakers. I might be inclined to look at the new M33 from NAD when it debuts. I bit over 5 grand though. Built in phono amp, and streaming capable. It has dirac room correction as well. >200W output. Your speakers an put out a bunch of power. NAD 388 is quite a bit cheaper, 150W output, and can be bought with bluOS-2i module for streaming.

In the more traditional integrated area, I'd look at Music Direct and checkout some of their offerings as well. Things like Luxman, Yamaha, etc are in the more traditional integrated amp genre. They also have a 60 day return policy. I'd also give Hegel a look, the 190 and 390 has streaming capability. Be prepared to exceed your 4 grand budget.
 
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I have recently come in to some B&W 702 S2s, my plan for which is to use as a 2-channel music only system in a more formal entertaining space (open concept great room/kitchen that's like 16'x35').
Space otherwise being tight, I am locked in on an integrated amp for this system. Phono stage desired but optional...will also be used with CDs and streaming. Want to spend less than $4k.
Like I said, I'm a bit of a noob to all this gear and am already overwhelmed and intimidated by what research I've done:confused:. This is a somewhat hard time to be doing this because I really don't want to be going in to places to audition equipment (nor do I really want anyone coming in here), but I also like, really want the equipment because I'm home all the time!

Looking for some advice/suggestions for pairing so I can narrow things down a bit.
I guess the question is: what would you pair with the 702 S2s as a music-only integrated amp?
https://www.technics.com/us/products/grand-class/stereo-integrated-amplifier-su-g700.html


I am looking at this beauty..!!
 

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I have recently come in to some B&W 702 S2s, my plan for which is to use as a 2-channel music only system in a more formal entertaining space (open concept great room/kitchen that's like 16'x35').
Space otherwise being tight, I am locked in on an integrated amp for this system. Phono stage desired but optional...will also be used with CDs and streaming. Want to spend less than $4k.
Like I said, I'm a bit of a noob to all this gear and am already overwhelmed and intimidated by what research I've done:confused:. This is a somewhat hard time to be doing this because I really don't want to be going in to places to audition equipment (nor do I really want anyone coming in here), but I also like, really want the equipment because I'm home all the time!

Looking for some advice/suggestions for pairing so I can narrow things down a bit.
I guess the question is: what would you pair with the 702 S2s as a music-only integrated amp?
If you have been purchasing a couple of months ago, you could have purchased the Anthem STR Integrated Amp. I bought one when they had the 20% off sale. Fantastic amp. Though, it does not have streaming.
 

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The Parasound Hint6 has recently been upgraded by John Curl. Has phono if needed and excellent DAC that you can hook up a Blue Sound node too, for streaming. The combo is under 4K. Also look at the Naim Uniti Atom. It has a built in streamer. A one box solution. Also under 4K. :)
 

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Thanks all!

This has helped me see that there are some reasonable options out there! I appreciate the thoughts!
 

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What are you using for a CD Player and for Streaming now? That would inform the range of choices. If you are streaming directly from your Phone via Bluetooth, we can certainly do better than that within your budget.

In the 16ft x 35ft Great Room, will the system (amps/speakers) be on the Small Narrow Wall (preferred) or on the Broad Wide Wall (not preferred)?

Do you by any chance have a Fireplace that is going to mess up the placement of the Audio Equipment?

I would at least consider looking at the Yamaha Amps. On the Higher End these are Audiophile Grade Amps -

Yamaha A-S1200 Integrated Amp -

https://www.musicdirect.com/integrated-amp/Yamaha-A-S1200-Integrated-Amplifier

Yamaha A-S2100 Integrated Amp - Demo -


https://www.musicdirect.com/integrated-amp/yamaha-a-s2100-integrated-amp-black-demo

Yamaha A-S2100 Integrated Amp -


https://www.musicdirect.com/integrated-amp/yamaha-a-s2100-integrated-amp

Yamaha A-S2200 Integrated Amp -


https://www.musicdirect.com/integrated-amp/Yamaha-A-S2200-Integrated-Amplifier

Note, Yamaha just released new Models, these will be in the form of A-Sn2nnn, where as the previous version, which is still very good, will be A-Sn1nn. So the newest version is the 1200, the previous version is the 1100, etc....

Not super high powered, about 90w/ch to 8 ohms with very low distortion, but that should be fine.

These are very popular on the UK forum, and those that have them are very pleased with them.

I think the A-S1200 is probably best value, and leaves you extra budget for perhaps Network Streaming, DAC, or other.

If you want KILLER POWER, the consider this ROTEL, also very popular in the UK.

Rotel RA-1592 Integrated, 200w/ch, DAC, Tone, etc... - $2,600 -

https://www.musicdirect.com/integrated-amp/Rotel-RA-1592-Stereo-Integrated-Amplifier

The Rotel does have a Network Connection, but mostly for Software Upgrades. I have heard rumor that with 3rd Party software, you can enable Network Streaming, but haven't been able to find anyone to verify that, so don't count on it.

As an affordable quality Hi-Res Network Player, the Bluesound Node-2i ($550) is very popular.

https://www.musicdirect.com/network-player/Bluesound-Node-2i-Network-Music-Player

Now there are fancier and prettier Network Players, but you are going to have to spend a bit more for them.

Cambridge Audio CXN V2 Network Player - $1100 -

https://www.musicdirect.com/network-player/Cambridge-CXN-v2-Network-Player

If you are interested in a Network Streamer/Player, we can pursue that as a separate item.

You can also move in the other direct, Yamaha make a pretty good low cost Network Streamer/Pre-Amp -

Yamaha WXC-50 Network Player/Pre-Amp - $350 -

https://www.crutchfield.com/p_022WXC50DS/Yamaha-WXC-50.html

There are Network Players that have CD Players built in so you can easily rip you CDs to the internal Hard Drive, if that has any interest for you.

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Here is a link to the Yamaha Website and Stereo Components as well as the WXC-50 Network Streamer-

https://usa.yamaha.com/products/audio_visual/hifi_components/index.html

https://usa.yamaha.com/products/audio_visual/wireless_streaming_amplifiers/wxc-50/index.html

Just a thought.

Steve/bluewizard
 

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One network player, I've considered is the Marantz ND8006, although it doesn't do the ripping of discs.
 

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I was recently on a quest for integrated went on a buying/audition spree, the best integrated I've heard are:

Tube:
Line Magnetic 805IA
Jadis I-50
Octave V80Se

Solid State:
Jeff Rowland Continuum S2
Luxman AX590II

Amps I've heard but was not taken with: Gryphon Diablo 300, Vitus RI-101, Ayre AX-5 Twenty, Luxman AX509, Rogue Audio Cronus Magnum
 

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You might also want to consider the Type of Amp you want.

Typically there are Minimalist, which are basically Amps with a Volume Control and a Source Select Switch, and that is pretty much it.

Other amps are more Full Featured Amps with Tone Controls, and a list of additional feature that can be long or short. There are Basic Featured Amps which are pretty straight forward, and there are more Full Featured amps that have a long list of additional features, most commonly a DAC built in, but others are possible.

Myself, I like an Amp that has Tone Controls, I don't often use them, but they are handy when I need them.

I've heard the B&W 700 Series several times, and I have to admit they are pretty appealing.

https://www.bowerswilkins.com/en-gb/home-audio/702-s2

They have a rated Sensitivity of 90db, so likely any reasonable amp can drive them. When I auditioned, I heard them on a 120w/ch Rotel RA-1572. So, I'm going to guess that any reasonable quality amp in the 75w/ch to 150/w range is going to work fine. The specified Power Handling is 30w up to 300w, so you have a very wide range of amps that will be functional with these speakers.

Rotel RA-1572 Integrated Amp (120w/ch) - $1700 -

https://www.musicdirect.com/integrated-amp/Rotel-RA-1572-Stereo-Integrated-Amplifier

So, I would concentrate on what you want the amp to do? Yes...drive speakers, but what else to you want the amp and the Amp System to do? What other features do you feel you will need from the Amp or need to add to the Amp?

I would definitely consider some type of Network Streaming, that gives you access to a near unlimited Library of Music for about $10/month, or $20 per Month if you want CD sound quality.

If you have digital sources, like your TV, then consider an Amp with a built in DAC or getting an external DAC (digital to analog converter).

If you have a Turntable, you might want to consider an amp with an MM/MC Phono Input.

If you have thoughts of a Subwoofer at some time in the future, you might want to consider a Pre-Amp/Power-Amp. This makes it very easy to insert the Full Bass Management between the Pre-Amp and the Power-Amp.

Rotel RC-1590 Pre-Amp - $1700 -

https://www.musicdirect.com/preamp/rotel-rc-1590-preamplifier

Rotel RB-1582 MkII - 200w/ch - Power Amp - $1500 -

https://www.musicdirect.com/power-amp/Rotel-RB-1582-MKII-Stereo-Power-Amplifier

Everything tends to be interconnected with each decision effecting other aspects of the Amp and the System. Best to foresee these possibilities, then to realize down the road, you don't have the ability to implement them.

So, what type of amp do you want?

Are there specific things that you do require from an amp?

Steve/bluewizard
 

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I have recently come in to some B&W 702 S2s, my plan for which is to use as a 2-channel music only system in a more formal entertaining space (open concept great room/kitchen that's like 16'x35').
Space otherwise being tight, I am locked in on an integrated amp for this system. Phono stage desired but optional...will also be used with CDs and streaming. Want to spend less than $4k.
Like I said, I'm a bit of a noob to all this gear and am already overwhelmed and intimidated by what research I've done:confused:. This is a somewhat hard time to be doing this because I really don't want to be going in to places to audition equipment (nor do I really want anyone coming in here), but I also like, really want the equipment because I'm home all the time!

Looking for some advice/suggestions for pairing so I can narrow things down a bit.
I guess the question is: what would you pair with the 702 S2s as a music-only integrated amp?
https://www.crutchfield.com/p_958MA5300/McIntosh-MA5300.html

a little bit more but well worth it take a look at audioclassic.com they have great stuff there
 

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If you have been purchasing a couple of months ago, you could have purchased the Anthem STR Integrated Amp. I bought one when they had the 20% off sale. Fantastic amp. Though, it does not have streaming.
I think this is good advice if you can find a dealer that can still get you to the 20% off mark. Something like a Bluesound Node 2i paired with the Anthem would be a killer 2 channel setup!
 

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I think this is good advice if you can find a dealer that can still get you to the 20% off mark. Something like a Bluesound Node 2i paired with the Anthem would be a killer 2 channel setup!
You probably won't find a dealer to do that. Anthem runs that 'sale' every year, usually in the spring. Technically it is a trade in deal, but dealers like Crutchfield don't require you to send in your old unit.
 

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Anthem has had the sale in the spring which was only a few months after the Dec/Jan sale. It’s possible they may have another one in the fall.

Also consider the Nad M10, it has Dirac live room correction, works with Roon (although not yet fully certified), and native BluOS streaming.

Consider adding Roon as the streaming app within your budget, and looking for Roon compatibility, as it can reduce a hardware component (streamer) giving you a true one box solution.
 
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