Not quite sure what you're complaining about Lowell. 
Or, has your graph changed since you posted this in your HT thread?
Or, has your graph changed since you posted this in your HT thread?
It's changed. I haven't been able to repeat that.Not quite sure what you're complaining about Lowell.
Or, has your graph changed since you posted this in your HT thread?
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Can't you put the subs back to where they were when you ran this graph?It's changed. I haven't been able to repeat that.
This is very wise advice. The key is if you are happy with it than that's all that matters.Can't you put the subs back to where they were when you ran this graph?
Maybe there is something wrong with your mic.
As for a pair of SB2000s, if you try it and don't like it, it costs you nothing.
I run two very different subs, with the lesser sub sort of nearfield in the back left corner and my good sub in the front right. Adding the SC8000 in the back did wonders to fill out the sound field.
I don't want to measure anything, it sounds great to me and I prefer to be oblivious to any nulls and peaks.
Sometimes not knowing is better than knowing and obsessing over it.![]()
I just ordered them.Can't you put the subs back to where they were when you ran this graph?
Maybe there is something wrong with your mic.
As for a pair of SB2000s, if you try it and don't like it, it costs you nothing.
I run two very different subs, with the lesser sub sort of nearfield in the back left corner and my good sub in the front right. Adding the SC8000 in the back did wonders to fill out the sound field.
I don't want to measure anything, it sounds great to me and I prefer to be oblivious to any nulls and peaks.
Sometimes not knowing is better than knowing and obsessing over it.![]()
Sounds pretty good. I didn't check your size room but I pretty much just have 4 placement options. 4 corners. I finally settled on the 2 larger deeper subs up front and my midbass sub at back. My sound is really full, and clean enough. Point being, need to clean up your sound? Just run a sub in each corner! If you don't mind spending the money that is.I just ordered them.I am taking your approach on nothing to lose, plus I I got the dual discount plus a 5% military discount on top of it. I really want the deep base of both XS30s in the front corners and now I like the base with the rears. It just changes the overall sound.
^^ why not trying with a pair of XS15's?
I think you are running into the limits of your bass management.
You have to add delay to the closest subs. So if the furthest sub is at 20ft, and the next closest is at 8ft, then you need to add 12ft of delay to the sub that is at 8ft. etc etc
If you have 4 different distances then you will need a DSP that can handle 4-independent subs, such as a: miniDSP or DCX.
Generally you want to find the 4 best spots (or if they are all clustered together, a single-best spot), you then have 4 independent EQ channels.
Then you can check the total sum of them in pairs or as a whole, and adjust the same EQ settings for all 4 channels.
At least, in-theory.
Usually the loudest spot for a sub is directly behind your head (
Do you, as a final step, EQ all 4 subs together? After all, when you listen to the subs, you are hearing all 4 subs together. IME, EQ'ing 2 subs as a unit, and 2 other subs as a another unit can result in flat response for each unit, but when combined, the "final" response is no longer flat.The ideal of adjust the EQ in pairs is what I use with my four sub. The front two as a single unit and the rear subs as a second unit.
I run 3 subs asymmetrically placed, but I EQ all 3 subs as one unit. 2 subs are equidistant to the PLP, so they get one distance setting. The 3rd sub is closer, so it gets it's own distance setting. Then all 3 are combined and one EQ filter set is applied to all the subs.I Also use a 4 subs asymmetrically located partly due to the room but, also for the purpose of not exciting the same mode. Some of this is just experimenting with the sub/room.
In the end all four are EQ togethered. There are only minor differences in the PEQ between the pairs since two are vented and two are sealed. They play nice together and the FR graph looks pretty darn good.Do you, as a final step, EQ all 4 subs together? After all, when you listen to the subs, you are hearing all 4 subs together. IME, EQ'ing 2 subs as a unit, and 2 other subs as a another unit can result in flat response for each unit, but when combined, the "final" response is no longer flat.
I run 3 subs asymmetrically placed, but I EQ all 3 subs as one unit. 2 subs are equidistant to the PLP, so they get one distance setting. The 3rd sub is closer, so it gets it's own distance setting. Then all 3 are combined and one EQ filter set is applied to all the subs.
Craig