[mercury]

We have one XM and O&A thread here at AVS...

We have one Sirius and Stern thread here at AVS....


O&A thread started 8/06

Stern thread started 10/06


O&A 779 hits

Stern 1153 hits


O&A 27 replies

Stern 74 replies



you can draw your own conclusions....

 

[Redfin]

Your point?


If you are trying to say that Stern has a bigger name than O&A, you're right. Stern does have a bigger name.


Doesn't mean he's funnier...

 

[Steve Mehs]

Stern has been around for much longer then O&A and he's known nationwide. Opie and Anthony were regional talent slowly expanding when their show was taken off. Sterns announcement made news all around the country. Other then the internet, I have heard nothing about O&A being on XM. I'd take O&A any day over Stern.

 

[darrenmadams]

I know you're just trolling, but one more number to crunch:


O&A's headstart on the Satellite market, and creating interesting programming that is satellite friendly = 18+ months.


I like them both, but after listening to the first few weeks of O&A, both Howard and I have quickly realized that terrestrial radio is dead. I'm betting he's regretting having to finish out his contract now.


The real downside to this whole thing? The competing services mean I have to choose one or the other. I guess not a huge difference now if both are on mornings, but when Howard was on mornings and O&A on the afternoons I could be a fan of both. How come we haven't heard that point addressed yet? Is it ever likely that either would syndicate content across both companies?


--Darren

 

[TTA89]

There are rumors that in the next year or 2 some headunits will have the ability to control both Sirius and XM. This way you can subscribe to both if you want.

 

[STEELERSRULE]

Those are not rumors TTA89, they are facts.


The FCC granted the liscence for both companies to operate under the condition that they would eventually make units that support BOTH services.


The real question is WHEN those type units will hit the streets. 2 years sounds right, but it might sooner or later. No one knows. BUT THEY HAVE TO DO IT, WITHOUT QUESTION.


With regards to the O&E and Stern debate, to each their own. I like Stern over O&E, but like another poster said, if O&E were on in the afternoon(like they were in NYC on 102.7 FM) I would listen to both. But since they compete head to head, Stern just wins hands down for me.


Also, I asked this question in another thread which I do not think can be answered.


We all know that XM has 2.6(soon to be 3) million subscribers. I wanted to know HOW MANY people actually subscribe to the O&E service? How many people ACTUALLY LISTEN to their show?


We all know it is NOT 2.6 million. They are not for everyone(neither is Stern of course). I would like to see the numbers, but I don't think XM releases that type of info. They may not have it, or are afraid to release it. O&E may not be as popular as people think, especially since it is a PAY EXTRA channel. I would not be surprised if the number is low, and by all accounts, a "POOR" rating if you will.


As Stern's air date draws closer, you may see XM drop the "pay" part of that channel and place it on their normal lineup(Just like Sirius is doing with Stern's show). This will be GREAT for XM subscriber's not to have to pay extra for that show.


Then we would get an idea(maybe) of how many people actually listen to it. We would get a head to head(with no excuses from anyone) matchup and see who is more popular.

 

[leitchk]

There is no way to compare the two. Until Stern's listeners are asked to pay to hear Howard we will never know. Or O&A becomes free. I look forward to Howard ending up on Sirius. Not because I plan on listening. I agree that O&A will be free once Howard is available.


I am a big fan of O&A and this is the first thread I have read related to O&A. The number of views means nothing. I just happened to be bored and was looking for something else and ended up here.

 

[Pat6366]

I don't think that XM charging for O&A matters when comparring to Sirius due to Sirius having a higher base price. When you add it up they equal out. I prefer O&A because they seem a bit fresher and don't whine as much as Howard. It will be interesting to see who wins in the end.

 

[barbie845]

Quote:

The FCC granted the liscence for both companies to operate under the condition that they would eventually make units that support BOTH services

Very true..But the FCC DID NOT put a time table on when this type of unit has to be avaliable...So it could be 10 yrs down the road...


I'm just guessing here,but because there are many subs who do have both services(I use to) a dual unit would probably benefit both companies so it might be on the market sooner then later..

 

[STEELERSRULE]

Actually barbie845 I noticed something interesting today that I never noticed before in my latest Crutchfield brochure.


I was unaware(if this has been the case for a while I am sorry) that they offer in-dash stereo units that are BOTH XM and SIRIUS "ready" along with AM/FM and, most likely, a CD player as well.


Does this mean that a person could get BOTH services in this one unit?


Or is it still one or the other only, it's just that the in-dash stereos "support" either service?


I know this would require two tuners(under both front seats?) for each service, and two antenna's I would presume for each on top of the car for both.


Basically it would a colossal mess, so just choose one or the other.


Anyone know if getting both connected to the one-in dash unit is possible?

 

[dturturro]

Quote:

Originally posted by STEELERSRULE We all know that XM has 2.6(soon to be 3) million subscribers. I wanted to know HOW MANY people actually subscribe to the O&E service? How many people ACTUALLY LISTEN to their show? We all know it is NOT 2.6 million. They are not for everyone(neither is Stern of course). I would like to see the numbers, but I don't think XM releases that type of info. They may not have it, or are afraid to release it. O&E may not be as popular as people think, especially since it is a PAY EXTRA channel. I would not be surprised if the number is low, and by all accounts, a "POOR" rating if you will.

What is known is XM's new subscribers for Q3 in 2004 was 75% higher than in 2003. Whether or not that 150,000 subscriber increase was due to O&A is undetermined. But one would have to think that the number would certainly be in the tens of thousands. More than 100,000? Maybe, maybe not.


Of course we don't know how many of the existing subscriber base got turned on to O&A right away. As a listener of the show I know there were several people calling into the show saying they never heard of O&A before and were happy with the show.


Finally, with Infinity settling several indecency charges incurred by O&A and Stern, the door is left open to let Stern go. Stopping his free promotion of his move to Sirius.

 

[STEELERSRULE]

Stern does constatntly say to his employers to let him go now because they are constantly cutting up his show(not only what they consider indecent, but also his references to Sirius or ANY type of satellite radio), and now some of the stations have started to END his show promptly at 10:00am, whether or not he is finished(99% of the time Stern show runs until at least 10:30am-10:45am). This is something NEW that they have done. NO ONE had any problems with his show running long until NOW. We all know why they decided to do this now.


It would not surprise me if Stern is not in the Sirius studios by the middle of July 2005. That would be 6 months sooner than expected. He ALWAYS takes off a couple of weeks(sometimes 3) in July(beginning with July 4th). If he was going to leave, I think this would be the time. It would right before the NFL season/college football is about to start(about a month and a half) and Sirius could REALLY saturate the market with commercials for both.


I think some, not all, of Stern's current employers want him to quit. They feel JADED that their "golden goose" is leaving(in terms of advertising revenue, which drives terrestrial radio and his "replacements" whomever they may be will NEVER generate the income he does) and also talking about his new employer. This new employer of course is a direct threat to their business's. Too bad it has to end this way.

 

[dturturro]

Infinity could also decide to take Stern off the air, but still honor the remainder of his contract. While it would cost them millions it would keep him off the air for an entire year. This would seriously damage Sterns move to satellite. People used to hearing Stern would have a year to either jump to O&A on XM or get used to Stern's replacement on their local radio.

 

[Best Buy Guy]

I think taking him off the air is a violation of his contract. Not sure though.


One thing I'm sure of is that ever since Janet Jackson pulled that stunt nearly a year ago, his show has been boring.

 

[mercury]

Quote:

Originally posted by Best Buy Guy I think taking him off the air is a violation of his contract. Not sure though. One thing I'm sure of is that ever since Janet Jackson pulled that stunt nearly a year ago, his show has been boring.

Boring,did you listen today!!


F`ing hilarious.....


lol...

 

[dturturro]

Hey, did he talk about his taxes, in between the 3,000 commercials? I love it when he does that!