is DVI better than component?

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gadgetfreaky

Discussion Starter · Oct 11, 2004

Newbie question in this part of the forum. I'm getting the 50phd7UY panny plasma.

I'm looking for a DVD player to upgrade my marantz s-video player.

My cousin works for Yamaha and I figured I would get a discount there.

I did some research and the s-1500 looks pretty good, but is not DVI. Should I wait and get the S-2500?

Or do you recommend the momitsu or Bravo player?

DVI would mean I have to get the DVI card for the plasma which adds about $150+ to the cost. So if the component is just as good on a high quality DVD player, I'd rather go that route.

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Q of BanditZ

· #2 · Oct 11, 2004

Out of all those, I'd easily wait for the s1500. No, I wouldn't recommend Momitsu or Bravo...under any circumstances really.

At this rate, yes, I'd spend the extra $150 to have the HDMI/DVI board put in, then you could just go HDMI to HDMI and have the best.

At that point, you could look at players like the Denon 2910, 3910, Yamaha s23500, Marantz 9500, Onkyo 1000, etc. etc.

FWIW, the Denon 2900 is still out there and gives an incredible 480p picture over component video. Your TV obviously will do the upscaling and everything anyways, so if you were to even get this, you'd be looking at an outstanding picture. I know Crutchfields has it for $699 and I've been told you can find it even cheaper than that. Even without DVI and HDMI, this 2900 is better than the 2910, FWIW.

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ac388

· #3 · Oct 12, 2004

I am a 'component' believer until I put on the DVI/DVI between my AE500 n new Denon 2910 2 nights ago. I used to have a Pioneer 858(14bit/108hz video dac) n thought you cannot beat it. The picture now is very good n without any expert calibration, it is better than anything I have seen from my projector. So, I hope those Marantz 2900 believer can sit down n take a look at the DVI/HDMI connection of 2910 or 3910, then you will forget about "made in Japan', 'better build quality', n start to appreciate the arrival of Digital video transmission.

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DaveInBerlinNJ

· #4 · Oct 12, 2004

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Originally posted by Q of BanditZ
No, I wouldn't recommend Momitsu or Bravo...under any circumstances really.

Sorry, I can't let that slide.

So, the MANY people that are using these players with their DVI equiped HD capable FPs are imagining the wonderful PQ (a NOTICEABLE improvement over 480p component). And Momitsu owners are further imagining the great seamless PAL conversion and simple region-free/changing capability. Not to mention that it plays 4x3 material in proper aspect ratio. 1:1 pixel mapping. No cropping. All at a nice low price. Heck I better return mine... I need a more expensive and/or less capable player.

Yes, build "quality" is iffy (so is the Denon 1900).

Yes, quite a few have had problems with them. A great many more have NOT.

Anyway, back to the topic... I think you'd be best served by finding other owners of the same plasma, and see what they're using. It seems to me that plasmas have their own set of peculiarities.

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JasonColeman

· #5 · Oct 12, 2004

I assume that Q's comment was simply to point out that there have been more than just a few problems with those players...from build quality to compatibility and more. As someone who appreciates the reliability, features, and performance of some of the "higher end" players, I wouldn't recommend those two brands/players either.

It was his reccommendation...not gospel.

Jason

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rboster

· #6 · Oct 12, 2004

I have had a Momitsu for a year now without any problems. I used both analog out and digital out (both via DVI). THe digital signal is a cleaner, more solid/smoother overall picture on this player.

If you can find a used player from a member that can verify theirs is bug-free, then it's a good choice. I love mine for it's ability to play DVD's from any region (region free).

I'm watching Hero, Shaun of the Dead and Donnie Darko Dir. Cut, which are all playing in the theaters...but I'm watching them at home with studio issued DVD's from other regions with the Momitsu.

There are other region free players out there and region 1 players that can be modded or hacked, you'll need to run a search. But, for the money, if you can get a good Momitsu, it's a good bang for the buck player.

Ron

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DaveInBerlinNJ

· #7 · Oct 12, 2004

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Originally posted by JasonColeman
I assume that Q's comment was simply to point out that there have been more than just a few problems with those players...from build quality to compatibility and more. As someone who appreciates the reliability, features, and performance of some of the "higher end" players, I wouldn't recommend those two brands/players either.

It was his reccommendation...not gospel.

Jason

Absolutely. I just wanted it made clear that it was just an opinion, and should not be interpreted otherwise. And that others (many others) may have a different opinion based on actual fact.

My gut feeling is that when someone is asking about S-1500s, Momitsu's and Bravo's, it's not the time to say "there is NO circumstance when you should buy those players, go get X"... when "X" cost nearly double the suggested players. Particularly when you have over 3 thousand posts.

One, the initial statement is false.

Two, the recommendation is not relevant.

(granted, the original post doesn't specify budget, but it's easily inferred)

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Again, my humble suggestion is to seek others with the same display, and find what DVD players they are using, and how they like them.

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