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Hello DIY community, I've been eyeing parts-express for a while because I'm thinking of getting a sub built for my home theater. Right now I own a Sony SA-W2500 and it is an ok sub (better than nothing). Question is, since I live on the second floor of my apt, is it even worth it to go from a 10" 50 watt rms sub to a 12" sub (i'm thinking peerless XLS) powered by 240 watts? I'm not looking for SPL really since I'm in an apartment, just good clean bass.


Equipment so far:

Samsung LN-T4061 tv

Pioneer VSX-918 HDMI receiver

Polk Monitor 50 fronts

Polk CSR center

old Pioneer htib surrounds

Sony SA-W2500 sub.
 

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I don't know much about the peerless, but for a 12" the shiva is hard to beat. Check out diycable.com and see what you think. Also are you wanting a ported or sealed box?
 

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I don't know much about the peerless, but for a 12" the shiva is hard to beat. Check out diycable.com and see what you think. Also are you wanting a ported or sealed box?

I'm not stuck on the peerless sub. I've read good things about shiva subs as well. As for ported or sealed, I'm not sure yet. I'm open to either.
 

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I think an XLS12 would be a great upgrade for your system. Better still would be to do the XLS12+PR system Peerless describes in their application notes on the XLS12.


The current Shiva-X will get louder, as it has a longer throw, but requires much more box. Same goes, I believe, for the other worthy budget high-quality 12, the Dayton Reference HF.


And the PE 240W plate amp is just the right amount of power for this driver.
 

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I think an XLS12 would be a great upgrade for your system. Better still would be to do the XLS12+PR system Peerless describes in their application notes on the XLS12.


The current Shiva-X will get louder, as it has a longer throw, but requires much more box. Same goes, I believe, for the other worthy budget high-quality 12, the Dayton Reference HF.


And the PE 240W plate amp is just the right amount of power for this driver.

Thank you for the advice.
 

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Originally Posted by tyrell3000 /forum/post/16986478


Hello DIY community, I've been eyeing parts-express for a while because I'm thinking of getting a sub built for my home theater. Right now I own a Sony SA-W2500 and it is an ok sub (better than nothing). Question is, since I live on the second floor of my apt, is it even worth it to go from a 10" 50 watt rms sub to a 12" sub (i'm thinking peerless XLS) powered by 240 watts? I'm not looking for SPL really since I'm in an apartment, just good clean bass.


Equipment so far:

Samsung LN-T4061 tv

Pioneer VSX-918 HDMI receiver

Polk Monitor 50 fronts

Polk CSR center

old Pioneer htib surrounds

Sony SA-W2500 sub.

you should defintiely upgrade your sony sub. 50 watts is not a sub. my headphone amplifier is 2 watts.


if you listen to music consider building a pair of subwoofers for stereo bass.
 

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Originally Posted by DS-21 /forum/post/16987998


I think an XLS12 would be a great upgrade for your system. Better still would be to do the XLS12+PR system Peerless describes in their application notes on the XLS12.


The current Shiva-X will get louder, as it has a longer throw, but requires much more box. Same goes, I believe, for the other worthy budget high-quality 12, the Dayton Reference HF.


And the PE 240W plate amp is just the right amount of power for this driver.

I agree with DS. I own a 830500, it is extremely clean, efficient, goes deep, and will hold its own SQ-wise with pretty much anything until you approach louder volumes (all relative). Right now the only difference in price with the Shiva is shipping...if space is limited, and you don't plan on throwing a block party go with the Peerless. If you feel like you might upgrade in the near future and you have room go with the Shiva.

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you should defintiely upgrade your sony sub. 50 watts is not a sub. my headphone amplifier is 2 watts.


if you listen to music consider building a pair of subwoofers for stereo bass.

I like feeding trolls...
in this case "stereo" actually means two identical subs, running a single audio channel (mono). It is a good idea to run two to overcome room deficiencies, if you have space and funds.


BTW, I hope you are on good terms with your downstairs neighbors (invite them up for shock and awe).
 

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Well, I have asked my downstairs neighbor in the past if my current sub was too loud, they said they never heard it. I have had it loud on occasions with my gaming sessions and blu-ray movies so I guess I'm ok for reasonable volumes. Either way, you can always turn it down during quiet hours.
 

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I agree with DS. I own a 830500, it is extremely clean, efficient, goes deep, and will hold its own SQ-wise with pretty much anything until you approach louder volumes (all relative). Right now the only difference in price with the Shiva is shipping...if space is limited, and you don't plan on throwing a block party go with the Peerless. If you feel like you might upgrade in the near future and you have room go with the Shiva.

In truth, the Shiva may be cleaner throughout its range, due to the XBL^2 motor, longer throw, and generally everything that's been learned about how to make better bass drivers in the decade or so between their respective development periods. But one could put two 830500+PR subs inside one Shiva-X sealed sub, and the two XLS's will be louder and cleaner at all volume levels.


People tend to ignore it because it has been around for a while - also, over the last 3-4 years it has been getting ever more expensive, with the current sales pushing it back down to near its original price - but the XLS12 is still a fantastic driver. Testing has also shown that multiple XLS12's can get really serious!



It also looks beautiful, if that matters. The basket design is one of the nicest out there, and build quality (at least on my three) is superb.
 
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