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I have a 3.1 setup with NHT SuperZero/SuperCenter 2.1, with an SVS SB1000 to help with the bass.

For the NHT bookshelf's, my room is fairly large: 12x22, connected to the kitchen, so effectively 12x32; and I can't put my setup along the short edge. Despite those, I'm pretty happy with what the system produces right now. It's loud enough without distortion for what I need, the sub is more than enough, and I have this "wall of sound" experience.

I'm thinking of upgrading it to a 5.1 without spending much money; budget < $200. The JBL looks like a good choice at that price range: I can get a pair of the Loft50 towers for $180 at Fry's, and the Loft20 center is regularly on sale for $50. And if I get those, I can sell the SuperCenter for ~$75 or so, and move the SuperZeros to the back.

Fry's didn't have the JBL in their listening rooms, but their return policy is good, so I decided to just take them home and listen at home. However, no matter how I tried, they still sound horrible compared to what I have :confused:. I put the towers and the center in the same places as the NHTs, ran auto setup on my AVR, and they sound boomy. If I push the crossover from 40Hz to 80Hz (to let my sub handle the bass instead), then bass is good, but then the towers draw attention to themselves (unlike the NHT bookshelf's, which seem to disappear). I tried running the JBL tower with my SuperCenter, but the mismatch is more than I expected. Running the tower with no center didn't improve things. I couldn't get midrange to sound as good as before either. It doesn't make sense. The JBL center is not as good, I suppose, but the towers have more midrange drivers.

Am I doing something wrong here? Or should I just take those back to Fry's and get another pair of SuperZero's for the surround?
 

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I would stretch and get the bigger NHT SuperOne 2.1 bookshelf speakers

They are on special - look at the third picture - better and bigger than the Zero
http://www.nhthifi.com/

http://www.nhthifi.com/site/sc/images/apologyXsm.png

I would also find away to boost your video monitor up - and put the center
channel on the table.

I would take the Loft speakers back - NHT is a higher level.

Your call
 

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Sort of a same situation from mine, newbie with slightly higher budget. $300. lol

Also went to frys but got the Infinity Primus P363's and JBL Loft 20. Which are not bad speakers. But after auditioning a couple speakers here and there, the Inifinity's towers almost seemed like small bookshelves.

What I can advise is, Google Hi-Fi audio near your zip-code. Youll have a better experience; coz im glad i did.



There are a few suggestions in this thread (when i was first drawn to avsforum). Enjoy your auditions.

http://www.avsforum.com/forum/89-speakers/1915121-dummy-here-need-advise-speakers.html
 

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Ehh sounds like the Loft is not going to work... I guess bigger is not always better after all.

I would also find away to boost your video monitor up - and put the center
channel on the table.
The center channel is the SuperCenter inside the shelf next to the AVR. The one on the ground is not connected. I did put the Loft20 on top in front of the TV when I was testing tho.
Since the SuperCenter is sealed, it shouldn't matter if I put it inside the shelf right? :confused: As long as the front is flush with the shelf?

What I can advise is, Google Hi-Fi audio near your zip-code. Youll have a better experience; coz im glad i did.
I can tell that Fry's listening rooms are not up to par lol. The problem with the hifi stores is that most of what they have are out of reach (which is not a bad thing), AND they make me want to buy them (bad bad bad).

I may end up getting the SuperOne pair. I liked them, but back then they were $300 a pair, and I got the SuperZero + Super8 package for $475 (the Super8 is now being used as computer sub). Does anyone have any experience with other speakers that pair well with the SuperCenter?
 

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I would stretch and get the bigger NHT SuperOne 2.1 bookshelf speakers

They are on special - look at the third picture - better and bigger than the Zero
http://www.nhthifi.com/

http://www.nhthifi.com/site/sc/images/apologyXsm.png

I would also find away to boost your video monitor up - and put the center
channel on the table.

I would take the Loft speakers back - NHT is a higher level.

Your call
Says who ? Ken Kantor is no longer at NHT, so why would some small, has been little company fighting for it's life in Northern California, be "at another level" from JBL ?
 
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