i have an offer fr dish to upgrade to the 811 (the supervisor that i spoke to said that i couldn't make a choice of rec'r. i had asked him if i could. you get what they have available. i got the impression that it would most likely be the 811) . $50 upfront, $5 lease per month, plus 15 hd channels for $15 per month. it seems cheap enough, but i dont want aggravation w this rec'r. i've read all the posts on the 811 and it seems like it can be a pain in the neck. problems like rebooting, losing channnel guide, etc. i'm not going over the air for networks as i live 65 mi from a tower. i really just want reliability and to just watch tv. any guidance that can be given will be very much appreciated. thanks in advance.