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I am getting ready to buy and the biggest bonus for the ae100 is the bulb life. 5000 hrs is much better than 3000 for the 75u
 

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It will be interesting to see if these projector lamps for the ae100 do indeed hold up for the full 5000 hours on econo mode.
 

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Just a hunch, but the big rush of AE100 buyers may have been exhusted. Also, it's now available in in the U.S. for a higher price and that puts it in competition with other projectors, like the 75U
 

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My manual says that the bulb is only good for 2000 hours!!! A permanent display will appear once the timer is hitting 2000 hours.
 

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Unless Econ mode has something you're sacrificing? I thought people were having problems with the screen flickering in econo mode?

I'm more interested in the 75u, I like the higher lumens, scaling my DVD movies on the HTPC using XGA (vs. WSVGA) for a sharper picture, and from what I understand the 75u has a 16:9 mode -- so no halos? I think it's worth the extra bucks for the bang. And I think I'm leaning in that direction for my purchase in the next few months.
 

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Econ mode does not have sacrifices, it is better imo for ht. Some people have stated that going to high lamp mode solves some problems. In their case they obviously have a defective AE or a temperature issue (the fan is faster in high lamp mode). If it is a temp issue you can run in econ mode and turn the lamp to high.


There are two reasons why I do not like the 75u, 4:3 panels do matter. IMO You can do all the math you want, but at the end of the day your only options are to get perfect masking or a panamorph lens to get more enjoyment out of the 75u 4:3xga panel than the AE 16:9wsvga for dvd watching.


The second reason is that the 75u has even less contrast than the AE, low contrast is the number one problem I have with the AE.


The 75u is a presentation projector, sure it has less screendoor than the AE, but if screendoor bothers you LCDs are not for you.
 

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The AE100 contrast ratio is overstated and the consensus is that it is closer to 250 to 1. HT is not a hobby for the feint of heart. HT is a passion and PQ rules. Those who think lamp hours is a deciding criteria should reexamine their priorities.


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leckian,

I believe 250 to 1 is also overstated for the AE my (highly inefficient I admit) testing brings me closer to 200 to 1 or less. The 75u is even worse.


I do not agree with your statement about bulbs, I think the AE is going to make a lot of people (including me and I am picky) very happy as is, and part of that enjoyment is going to come from a 5000hour bulb. If the AE had even the stated 500-1 cr spec'd with a 1000hour bulb it would be a waste. LCDs do not have good cr, they have other advantages like price, colors, no artifacts/rainbows and for the AE a 5000hour lamp.
 

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The AE100 contrast ratio is overstated and the consensus is that it is closer to 250 to 1. HT is not a hobby for the feint of heart. HT is a passion and PQ rules. Those who think lamp hours is a deciding criteria should reexamine their priorities.


Lenny Eckian


Well not everybody has 5k to drop on a projector. I am a college student and dont have that much money yet. Especially to drop 350 every 6 months for a damn light bulb.... But I demoed the projector at Adebars house and the PQ was stunning. I had not seen even close and I saw a Sony HT projector at a HT shop in Houston (cant remmeber the model #) but it sucked compared to the ae100, im guessing it wasnt configured properly but I am 1000% satisified and plan to order mine very soon. I have to finish wiring the room first.
 

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I am a happy 75U owner and I have not seen the AE 100. I have seen the Sharp 9000, Sony 11ht a Yamaha DLP and a Sanyo LCD. I will say that screendoor matters to me and if I didn't get DLP headaches and could have found one bright enough and within budget (not asking too much am I?) I would have gone that way. At this price point and at this stage in the technology there are going to be compromises. I'd prefer if my pj had no screendoor and would personaly not be happy with one that had more. I'd also prefer if it where 16:9 but I chose my compromises and I have no regrets. The PQ while perhaps not a videophiles idea of perfection is pretty darn impressive. When you consider that it cost 1/3 -1/4 of the other pj's I looked at, and what you would have had to pay just a few years ago to get a picture like this it seems like quite a bargain. I traded 16:9 for less screen door and a tad more lumens. This was right for me but another choice of compromises would be just as valid for someone else. -Noam
 

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I am a new 75U owner (Thursday) and we have been watching movies non-stop it seems for the last two days. The screen door (at least around here) is not a factor. we sit far enough away that with the tiniest, tiniest bit of defocus it is gone. I looked at damn near every projector I could find, both LCD and DLP and for the cost benefit ratio I could find no better deal that the 75U. In terms of contrast vs. the AE100. The AE I saw working was not as good as the 75U by a lot. This could have been a bad set-up, but that demo pushed me to the 75U.


Now if you will excuse me....... Private Ryan is running on the Panny...
 

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HT is not a hobby for the feint of heart. HT is a passion and PQ rules. Those who think lamp hours is a deciding criteria should reexamine their priorities.


Lenny Eckian
Wisely said, Lenny.


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Well not everybody has 5k to drop on a projector. I am a college student and dont have that much money yet. Especially to drop 350 every 6 months for a damn light bulb....
Wow, you watch 16 hours of TV per day....can't be good for the grades.
 

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There are two reasons why I do not like the 75u, 4:3 panels do matter. IMO You can do all the math you want...
Correct, and the math clearly shows that a 4:3 XGA resolution pj uses more pixels than a WVGA in 16:9 mode. Sorry to say, but science far outweighs opinion, in this case.
 

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If you project a 16:9 material using 4:3 xga panel, you are using the extra pixels to project a black bar. Where then is the advantage?


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If you project a 16:9 material using 4:3 xga panel, you are using the extra pixels to project a black bar. Where then is the advantage?


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Do the math. This has been beaten to death. With a 4:3 xga panel, the 16:9 image will use 1024X576 pixles. I think that beats 848X480 in every regard.
 

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robertmee, Greg,

I believe in math, but all of the mathematical advantage goes out the window if the user of the lcd XGA projector does not have proper masking, this is because LCDs have a very low contrast ratio and having the "dull grey" bars while watching a movie effectively negates the mathematical advantage by killing the contrast.


It is very hard to properly mask an XGA projector I have seen various attempts and have not yet been satisfied by any of them, this is the reason people are paying 2k for optical solutions to this problem.
 

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I wouldn't buy an ae100 because I intend to watch huge amounts of movies, as in many many hours a day. You don't have to watch your projector a huge number of hours to enjoy it. I would like an ae100 just because I like having the best for watching a movie. I doubt I'd watch more than 2 hours per day. Even if I watched 4 hours per day, (which I never would, even including TV broadcasts on an ae1000), but even if I did watch 6 hours per day, thats like 1460 hours per year maximum. I wouldn't need a bulb for a few years at a time for sure.
 
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