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Is the X-box power supply the reason for the power cord replacement?

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Richard Paul

Discussion Starter · Feb 28, 2005

Just received my new X-box power cord and was surprised to see that it included a circuit breaker. It seems to me that if it requires a circuit breaker that the problem may not be with the power cord but the power supply. Granted it may just be overkill in terms of safety but I have never heard any reason why the old power cords were dangerous. I mean besides the circuit breaker at the end the two power cords are identical. What do you think?

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Blkout

· #2 · Feb 28, 2005

No, the power supply is not the problem and neither is the cord. The problem is the way people abuse their consoles, someone's dog or cat probably chewed through their cable without them knowing and it shorted and caused a fire. I see no problems with the Xbox power cable and I see no problems with the Xbox power supply either. Replacing the cord is just a safety precaution because some moron probably threatened MS with a lawsuit.

dtro

· #3 · Feb 28, 2005

what the heck? I posted about this yesterday and a mod replied to stop posting this garbage and the thread was deleted. The problem is the power supply and I could go into detail but will probably get slapped on the hand again

voodoogmr

· #4 · Feb 28, 2005

This is what one of the members of my website said about it. He has done a lot of tinkering with the Xbox hardware. Again, this is just what I was told. I personally haven't had any problem with my 3 Xboxes. Of course, they rarely ever get unplugged.

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The actual Issue IS the power supply. I have had to repair one of my power supplies already. The Connection inside the xbox is shoddy at best. If you are one who unplugs the xbox power cable out of the back of the xbox a few times to move it around then one of the times when you plug it back in it will break the "rod" and push the rod in up against a HUGE cap.. Lets just say instant fire when power is applied. I was lucky enough to notice when I went to plug it in it felt strange and when I looked I could see the peice pushed in. I took the xbox apart and saw what would have happened if I had plugged it in. It pays to pay attention when plugging in a cable into a peice of equiptment... This new power supply is only to "notice" this problem and cut power. The Xbox will still not work but you won't have a fire issue. The internal connector will need to be repaired.

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ferrisg

· #5 · Feb 28, 2005

Apparently it's an issue only with certain Xboxes, though. MS is sending out a power cable that looks identical to the stock one to some people, so it must be a certain range or maybe early ones or something that have this issue.

Joe Redifer

· #6 · Feb 28, 2005

Why would they send out normal power cables to some users? That's the part that doesn't make any sense. Why not just X-clude those Xboxes from the power cord debacle?

I sure hope this thread gets deleted. Discussing the Xbox power cord/power supply is just uncalled for. How dare we!

TheFerret

· #7 · Feb 28, 2005

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Originally posted by dtro
what the heck? I posted about this yesterday and a mod replied to stop posting this garbage and the thread was deleted. The problem is the power supply and I could go into detail but will probably get slapped on the hand again

Can you prove this?

Jordan420

· #8 · Feb 28, 2005

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Originally posted by TheFerret
Can you prove this?

I saw the post & reply from the the mod before it was deleted

TheFerret

· #9 · Feb 28, 2005

I'm not asking him to prove the previous post. I am asking him to prove what I high-lighted in red. I also caught the previous post, but I want his assertion that the problem IS the power supply to be backed up. If he can go into detail that the customers being qualified for a replacement cable is in fact a power-supply issue then I would like to know the evidence he has.

rmcgirr83

· #10 · Feb 28, 2005

Yeah, I'm interested as well.

Jordan420

· #11 · Feb 28, 2005

Well that makes more sense, sorry it's still early, haven't finished my coffee yet. And I would like some proof also, that is why the thread was deleted, Shawn basicly said quit posting rumors without facts

Jordan

MAX_POWER_HDryer

· #12 · Feb 28, 2005

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Originally posted by Richard Paul
Just received my new X-box power cord and was surprised to see that it included a circuit breaker. It seems to me that if it requires a circuit breaker that the problem may not be with the power cord but the power supply. Granted it may just be overkill in terms of safety but I have never heard any reason why the old power cords were dangerous. I mean besides the circuit breaker at the end the two power cords are identical. What do you think?

My new cord doesn't have a circuit breaker it basicly just fits tighter in the connector

jjp927

· #13 · Feb 28, 2005

From what I can gather anyone that has fox power supply( a lot of early Xboxs) receives that power cord with breaker attached to it. There is problem with the power supply shorting out. Someone posted a fix for this on xbox-scene where you had solder 2 points. All others receive an almost indentical power cord that has a notch at the end to make a better fit into the power supply.

TheFerret

· #14 · Feb 28, 2005

So, what were the percentage of incidents to XB owners (or XB units sold)?

FourDoor

· #15 · Feb 28, 2005

I've been too lazy to apply for the replacement cord, but is this the issue regarding the Foxlink power supply you guys are talking about?

http://forums.xbox-scene.com/index.php?showtopic=361537

dtro

· #16 · Feb 28, 2005

"Shawn basicly said quit posting rumors without facts"

Are you kidding me? The exact post said "quit posting this garbage here". That's it. Nothing else.

Funny, now others are stating the same thing I said. Had it said don't post without facts it would have been understandable, however there's probably hundreds of posts on this forum that don't have facts to back them up.

I thought people would be interested in the fact that the power cord is not necessarily the problem, and if the solder joint does fail, the cord will save an overheating issue, but it WON'T save the power supply. Then the average Joe would have to buy an new xbox or get it repaired (pretty much the same cost currently). If the power supply/ solder joint is known to fail prematurely, don't you think M$ should have to replace it?

There are plenty of electrical experts on this forum. Could one of them please explain why the earlier generation got the circuit breakers and the later ones didn't? Do you really think they changed the design of the cord during that time frame? I don't, but I bet they did change components.

It's not like I'm telling people they shouldn't get the new cord. By all means get the new cord, but if for some reason the power supply fails, you just might know why.

***edit***

wow, I just checked out the link posted by FourDoor. Need any more proof?

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Richard Paul

Discussion Starter · #17 · Feb 28, 2005

Dtro, I think the problem was that your post sounded like you were attacking Microsoft. For news that may sound negative it is best to have the initial post like Jeopardy, in that you phrase it as a question. It tends to soften the blow of the information since your not saying something your only asking about it.

Also I did see your post two days ago and the day after got my replacement power cord. Thought it was a little odd that it had a circuit breaker so posted your idea in question form. The thing is a circuit breaker would have no effect on a power cord but would be useful for a power supply. There is the possiblity that Microsoft it being super careful, but if so why do only some of the replacement power cords have circuit breakers while the rest don't?

dtro

· #18 · Feb 28, 2005

My post may have sounded negative and if it did I apologize. It may be a lingering emotion having to do with a certain Ubisoft title and M$'s lack of communication.

FourDoor

· #19 · Feb 28, 2005

I just checked X-S again and saw that they posted a link to betanews.com regarding the foxlink power supply theory. MS is of course denying the power supply issue: http://www.betanews.com/article/Xbox...all/1109603771

This is defenitely interesting to hear/read about. If anything, this has made me curious as to what PS is inside my xbox (I have both a 1.0 and a 1.1) and check to see if the solder points are indeed broken or breaking...

TheFerret

· #20 · Mar 1, 2005

Now, now, I don't have a problem with you attacking Microsoft--I've done it when I felt they deserved it. I simply wanted evidence that clearly showed what you had posted, dtro, is directly linked to the cord replacement.

I haven't even checked to see if my second XB meets the Microsoft criteria, nor have I seen the replacement cord. But if the replacement cord is just a cord I fail to see how its going to resolve any problems in the power supply (someone please explain this to me).

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