AVS Forum banner
  • Get an exclusive sneak peek into our new project. >>> Click Here
  • Our native mobile app has a new name: Fora Communities. Learn more.

It's Official: G25 best bang for buck

7726 Views 48 Replies 28 Participants Last post by  TahoeDust
I did so much research on plasmas in the 900-1300 price range before I finally settled on the G25, and I love it. Makes me feel really good when experts confirm that I indeed got the plasma with the best "bang for buck". Check out the Cnet article.

http://reviews.cnet.com/2795-6482_7-...carouselMain.0
1 - 20 of 49 Posts
2

Quote:
Originally Posted by MatsudaMan /forum/post/19445225


I did so much research on plasmas in the 900-1300 price range before I finally settled on the G25, and I love it. Makes me feel really good when experts confirm that I indeed got the plasma with the best "bang for buck". Check out the Cnet article.

We knew it was the best bang for the buck back in March when it first debuted
It's nice to see that it's still the best bang for the buck so many months later
See less See more
It is nice, though, to see the Samsung PNC7000 on both lists ( value and PQ ).
Actually, the LG PK550 series also represent excellent performance per dollar. Servicetech571 paid only $1,200 for his 60 inch PK550.

Also, 50 inchs doesn't do it for a lot of people. Where is the bang for buck for 58''+ panels?
As long as the floating blacks don't bother you. I'm waiting for more info on GT25
Are there any other reputable


"best bang for buck"


articles.


I buy everything I own using the best bang for buck mentality.

Especially PC tech like GPU's.

any magazines that do this frequently?

Quote:
Originally Posted by spyboy /forum/post/19445829


Actually, the LG PK550 series also represent excellent performance per dollar. Servicetech571 paid only $1,200 for his 60 inch PK550.

Also, 50 inchs doesn't do it for a lot of people. Where is the bang for buck for 58''+ panels?

Does anyone else agree with this. 1500$ ish for a 60 inch seems like a mad steal.
See less See more
The top bang/buck for the 58"+ category is whatever they have on a madness sale that week. Getting a TV 25% less than it's normal "sale price" will stomp any differences between models, especially if you're buying an entry level set at that size. Locally the LG 50PJ350 was running for $600 last week, that was a bang/buck winner in the 50" class. PQ snobs will complain about it only being a 720p set but it looks fine on 90% of what people actually watch. Sure the 1080p sets look better for the 10% of the time your playing a BR but most people spend 90% of their TV time watching overly compressed signals through their $100/mo pay TV provider. If you have "eagle eyes" enough to notice the 720/1080 difference you will surely see the compression artifacts found on most Pay TV channels. The higher up the line you go the further you get away from bang/$$$.


I would have taken the Panasonic or Samsung 58" for the same $1,200. I have a 16' viewing distance and DW wanted to retire the Mits WS65513 in favor of something that doesn't take as much room. A 50" looks small @ 16' after watching a 65", and my budget was only $1,000. Convinced the wife on the steal of a deal on the 60" (7 hour July 4th sale) and only blew the budget by $200, otherwise we would have ran the WS65513 a bit longer until prices dropped some more.


Sold the WS65513 on Craigslist for $475 so I got some of the money "back". The 60pk550 will possibly be the 1st TV I'm not going to sell for more than I paid for it, oh well I've made enough money on TV's over the years to loose money on this one. I would have bought used like I normally do but people on CL are on crack for the prices they want on used TV's. Broken ones are either little sets or have bad panels, never just a board swap. Working sets are priced like it's 2008, people don't realize how much new TV's have dropped in the past 2 years. I could have gone DLP for cheap but DW wanted a flat screen.
See less See more
I'm looking at the C7000 Samsung strictly from CNET's reviews.


It seems like the C7000 is the best at reproducing SD content? I still have a Wii and alot of DVD's, so this is important to me. However 3D is not. Is there an alternative to paying a premium for 3D?

Plasma is attractive to me because of the black levels, reproduction of lots of motion (gaming), viewing angles, and screen uniformity. The price gap between LCD/Plasma seems to have gone away since I was last looking 3 years ago.
CNET reviews? I'd check the user ratings before their editor's ratings. Also, significant price differences between the GT 25 and some of the comparable others. I have a g15 from last year and have a lot of miles on it. PQ is still great. Because 2009 models had a rising blacks problem, and speculation that it will occur again in a different model is no reason to downgrade a set. Like - your father was a drunk so you will be a drunk too!

Quote:
Originally Posted by djm3801 /forum/post/19466156


CNET reviews? I'd check the user ratings before their editor's ratings. Also, significant price differences between the GT 25 and some of the comparable others. I have a g15 from last year and have a lot of miles on it. PQ is still great. Because 2009 models had a rising blacks problem, and speculation that it will occur again in a different model is no reason to downgrade a set. Like - your father was a drunk so you will be a drunk too!

Rising Blacks on 2010 Panasonic Plasmas has been acknowledged by Panasonic. It's just that they rise more slowly.
sorry to those who think G25 is best bang for buck but it really isn't. I had two of them and both buzzed, one real bad, and one had floating blacks. I am sure in time the blacks on both would of risen but I wasn't going to wait around for it. I got the PK550 and while the blacks are not as nice, everything else is better and if the blacks on g25 rise as much as they are supposed to then they will be equal in that regard. Factor in the LG is much cheaper and it seems obvious that it is a better bang for the buck.
Quote:
Originally Posted by jrobitaille23
sorry to those who think G25 is best bang for buck but it really isn't. I had two of them and both buzzed, one real bad, and one had floating blacks. I am sure in time the blacks on both would of risen but I wasn't going to wait around for it. I got the PK550 and while the blacks are not as nice, everything else is better and if the blacks on g25 rise as much as they are supposed to then they will be equal in that regard. Factor in the LG is much cheaper and it seems obvious that it is a better bang for the buck.
Agree, I own a G10, the blacks now are at .024.


The G25 will be at .024 too within a year.


The Lg costs less, and has blacks at .01, which intially isn't as good as the G series, but within a year, the blacks will be much better than them, thanks to the blacks rising on the Pannys.
See less See more
Quote:
Originally Posted by XxHoosierdaddy
....The G25 will be at .024 too within a year.
Are you sure they're going to reach .024?


CNet's test sample apparently has risen to about half that so far, i'm not so sure that it will ultimately reach .024


"...the G20 increased from 0.007 to 0.012 after 2,411 total hours (464 days)."

http://news.cnet.com/8301-17938_105-...in;contentBody
See less See more
Quote:
Originally Posted by RandyWalters
Are you sure they're going to reach .024?


CNet's test sample apparently has risen to about half that so far, i'm not so sure that it will ultimately reach .024


"...the G20 increased from 0.007 to 0.012 after 2,411 total hours (464 days)."

http://news.cnet.com/8301-17938_105-...in;contentBody
D-Nice said that they will triple yet again. So that would put a .008 to .024 after the risings are complete.
See less See more
The G20/25 was the set I was going to purchase but the floating blacks, rising blacks, lack of proper 24P playback and lack of advanced user controls made me look in other directions. The LG PK550 has none of these problems, a great picture (especially after proper calibration) and is less expensive. Perfect?...no, but it is a better value than the G20/25.
Quote:
Originally Posted by RandyWalters
Are you sure they're going to reach .024?


CNet's test sample apparently has risen to about half that so far, i'm not so sure that it will ultimately reach .024


"...the G20 increased from 0.007 to 0.012 after 2,411 total hours (464 days)."

http://news.cnet.com/8301-17938_105-...in;contentBody
I think as far as comparisons go it doesn't really matter because whether it's .012 or higher the G20 after rise no longer will have the black advantage. So then you have to go to other factors. A huge one is that you are essentially talking about a 3:2 pulldown vs. 3:3. I will admit that the PK550 has much much worse glare and it has IR (it goes away) and I didn't have either of the G20's long enough to know how they were. If you have a dedicated HT room where glare isn't an issue than that no longer is a factor in Panny's favor. You also take a more than $200 difference and I just don't see how the G25 was the winner.


I also am not so sure about the sets CNET gets as those are supplied by manufacturer and in this instance Panny may have altered the set. CNET as far as I know have not even reviewed a PK550. If they do I doubt they will really take the required time it takes to properly calibrate the 20pt. so would it even matter. I don't even have mine fully calibrated but from what I hear from those that have it makes the PQ damn impressive. Now, if you fixed the rising blacks, floating blacks and made it 3:3 or 4:4 (essentially a VT25) and charged the same price as is then yes...the G25 would be the one to get and I would probably own two of em.
See less See more
Quote:
Originally Posted by jrobitaille23
I think as far as comparisons go it doesn't really matter because whether it's .012 or higher the G20 after rise no longer will have the black advantage. So then you have to go to other factors. A huge one is that you are essentially talking about a 3:2 pulldown vs. 3:3. I will admit that the PK550 has much much worse glare and it has IR (it goes away) and I didn't have either of the G20's long enough to know how they were. If you have a dedicated HT room where glare isn't an issue than that no longer is a factor in Panny's favor. You also take a more than $200 difference and I just don't see how the G25 was the winner.


I also am not so sure about the sets CNET gets as those are supplied by manufacturer and in this instance Panny may have altered the set. CNET as far as I know have not even reviewed a PK550. If they do I doubt they will really take the required time it takes to properly calibrate the 20pt. so would it even matter. I don't even have mine fully calibrated but from what I hear from those that have it makes the PQ damn impressive. Now, if you fixed the rising blacks, floating blacks and made it 3:3 or 4:4 (essentially a VT25) and charged the same price as is then yes...the G25 would be the one to get and I would probably own two of em.
Most tv's ultimately face power issues or some sort of issue with them. Does that mean you shouldn't buy them? Seriously this black level deal is blown way out of proportion. I am not worried at all about that. I'm glad they have a low chance of failure unlike the LG. (2% to 5%) Samsung has the buzz issue. Of all the weaknesses of each brand, I'll take the slightly different black levels over time over power failure or loud buzz of the Samsung's.
See less See more
The difference is that a buzzing TV or failed power source are things you can remedy by returning the TV due to them being faulty. According to Panasonic the black levels are "supposed" to rise therefore you not only pay a premium over the other brands because of how great their blacks are initially, but you cannot remedy the situation because it's designed to do it.
i bought the G20 knowing full well that the blacks would probably rise like the 2009s did, but i just was not satisfied with the PQ of comparable samsung plasmas (in general i don't like them as a brand anyway) or the LG (admittedly i've only seen the PK950 in person). But honestly, I don't plan on using this plasma for more than three or four years. I know myself, and I know I'll be itching to upgrade by then. I also only use my G20 for watching BRs and rarely use it to watch TV. I use my LCD for that, which actually keep the hours relatively low on my plasma. last time I checked my hours (probably a couple of months ago) I was only at 130 hours on my April build G20.

Quote:
Originally Posted by keyoctave /forum/post/19469238


The G20/25 was the set I was going to purchase but the floating blacks, rising blacks, lack of proper 24P playback and lack of advanced user controls made me look in other directions. The LG PK550 has none of these problems, a great picture (especially after proper calibration) and is less expensive. Perfect?...no, but it is a better value than the G20/25.

I'd rather having some floating blacks than glare.....personally, coming from a history of LCD tech. My environment would be relative bright lighting.
1 - 20 of 49 Posts
This is an older thread, you may not receive a response, and could be reviving an old thread. Please consider creating a new thread.
Top