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Curious if anyone else on this forum is receiving HD OTA in Jackson, MS.


I am in Ridgeland and have a Jensen TV930 indoor antenna, hooked up to a Hughes HTL-HD D* Receiver, pointed just west of south. I am able to pick up CBS (WJTV-DT), ABC (WAPT-DT), PBS HD, PBS Digital (WMPN-DT), and WB (WDBD-DT). NBC is currently awaiting FCC approval for their digital transmission.


I only have a week's worth of history to go by, but up until tonight I was able to lock onto every channel with out any drop outs. Tonight (4/21) ABC has been very sporadic. The signal strength on the HTL-HD for my OTA ABC channel has been fluctuating like crazy all night. It will go from Good, hover around Normal, dip down to Bad and then go right back to Good. Tonight is the first time I have seen it do this.


If anyone else here is in Jackson, MS and receiving HD OTA please let me know your experiences.


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I live in Brandon, MS by the resevoir. I have a nice hdtv plasma but no hdtv receiver yet. However, I should be getting a high def tivo within the next 2-3 weeks, so I have been researching antennas. I'm 25-30 miles away and within a few degrees compass orientation according to antennaweb.org. Based on research, I was intially leaning toward a multidirectional antenna - channel master 4228 or Winegard PR8800. However, since I'm only a few degrees directionally from each tower, I'm now considering a directional antenna. It was recommended to me that because I plan on an attic installation, I should go for a more powerful directional antenna, such as the Yagi XG42 available on antennadirect.com. I have'nt really decided yet. When I get my receiver and antenna, I'll post my experience.
 

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I'll be interested to hear how successful you are with your attic installation. I may go that route myself. ABC continues to give me fits. It is one of the closer towers, but their signal strength continues to fluctuate wildly - no rhyme or reason. They may be having transmission issues with their digital signal.


WB (WDBD-DT) is one of the furthest away - 19 miles - but their signal is by far the strongest. Too bad they have no HD programming.


CBS (WJTV-DT) - 11 miles - continues to have a lip synch issue. The audio is just slightly behind the video - enough to be distracting at times. The picture is incredible. CSI-Miami in HD was quite an experience.


ABC (WAPT-DT) - 12 miles - has been pretty good. I have not noticed any lip synch issues. The picture has been great when the signal is good. I've got to get the signal situation worked out prior to Monday Night Football.


PBS-HD - 21 miles - shows all HD all the time. There's been a lot of opera and ballet in HD this week. Not my thing - but the picture is great.


Good luck with your install. I just got my Samsung HLN467W DLP TV last week. I got the $99 HD special from DirecTv - which included the Hughes HTL-HD DirecTv and OTA Receiver, triple LNB dish (which I already had) and professional installation (not needed - but I had the guy run me an extra line from the dish). I have two lines going to my DirecTivo and one going to the Hughed HTL-HD. DirecTv was asking $350 for the HD setup, but as a long time subscriber I was able to qualify for the $99 deal. It was worth it just to get the receiver. I have watched more TV this past week than I can ever remember. The "wow factor" of HD has not quite worn off yet. You are going to love it.


I look forward to hearing from you after your install.
 

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Jackson, MS viewers...an update about NBC.


I have some information from the station manager at NBC (WLBT).


He told me that they are currently awaiting FCC approval to broadcast their digital signal on Channel 9. That is the current hold up. They were allocated Channel 51, I believe, and they want Channel 9.


In the meantime, they are going to begin sending a digital feed to Time Warner Cable over fiber optics. So TWC users with the HD package will be able to see HD programming from NBC before they send it OTA.


FWIW.
 

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Thanks for the update. I guess they want to use channel 9 to broadcast in VHF. This means I should probably start looking for a vhf/uhf antenna instead of getting the uhf only antenna I intended to buy. VHF, I believe, is also harder to pick up at longer distances.
 

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WUFX (FOX-35) has started transmitting a digital signal (as of 5/3). I hope this is in preparation for the lineup of HD programming starting this fall on FOX.


Once NBC gets approval from the FCC for channel 9 we will have access to all of the major networks in HD.
 

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Finally, I now have high definition ota and via directv. I'm picking up at least a few digital locals from the Jackson towers but have not had a chance to look them over. My wife is finishing up watching shows off the old tivo. I'll try to report something this weekend.


I ended up buying a large RCA directional antenna from Home Depot that I put in the attic(cost like 60 bucks but I used a gift card someone gave me last year) ; I guessed the general direction to aim and have not finished positioning it, but I built a little platform for it so that I could easily move it around the attic.
 

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These results are without positioning my antenna.

Hopefully the results will be much better.

I was picking up CBS last night, but not today.

PBS is coming in fine.

ABC is okay.

CBS is mostly no picture.


CHANNEL FREQUENCY STATION SIGNAL STRENTH

20-1 20 PBS 78-83

16-1 21 ABC 68-71

41-1 41 WB 60-65

12-1 52 CBS 8-43


I did'nt know they would be using a 4:3 ratio for digital programming. ABC and CBS are showing 4:3 programming and I have no way to widen it for my tv. Hopefully most digital progamming will be in 16:9.


No programs are on WB right now, or either I'm just not picking them up.
 

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Thanks for the update. I guess they want to use channel 9 to broadcast in VHF. This means I should probably start looking for a vhf/uhf antenna instead of getting the uhf only antenna I intended to buy. VHF, I believe, is also harder to pick up at longer distances.

Antennas designed primarily for the UHF band will usually work ok for highband VHF (highband VHF = channels 7 thru 13).


For towers less than 40 miles away, the Channel Master CM 4221 usually works well for channels 7 thru 69. If the signal strength is weak on VHF, add a CM 7777 preamp. There are several good online sources for Channel Master antennas & preamps. Three reliable sources are:
http://www.warrenelectronics.com
http://www.starkelectronic.com
http://solidsignal.com


FWIW, VHF channels usually travel farther with significantly less transmitter power than UHF.


--Sam in Little Rock
 

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SFjr,

Jensen and TERK antennas are mostly over-advertised, overpriced junk. Avoid both, as they seldom work well.
 

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These are my updated results with the large rca directional antenna. I also tested a small indoor directional antenna w/ amplifier. With the amp turned off, the reception is bad on the indoor ant. With the amp on, reception is good but only if I aim high while holding the antenna high in a certain direction. Still, not as good as the large antenna in the attic. I'm guessing that if I shorten the coax cable - I have several spare feet - that reception might be a little better-I'm not sure if its the best quality coax either. Or I could add a pre-amp, which might boost the signal strength-this might be worth a try. Otherwise, there are no drop-outs, so I guess that's what counts with an all or nothing digital signal.


CHANNEL / FREQUENCY / STATION / SIGNAL STRENGTH (0-100)

20-1 20 PBS 86-89

16-1 21 ABC 71

41-1 41 WB 61-68

12-1 52 CBS 67-70


I'm picking up the WB but there are no hd programs on the WB for now. Programming on the WB and one of the PBS channels looks no better than the local on satellite. Looks like the playback source is probably something less than 480i. CBS and ABC HD programs are fantastic.
 

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Those signal strengths are more than adequate. On some tuners that might be the maximum you could ever expect to receive.


If the signal's over a certain threshold (as low as ~20-30% on many receivers), and steady, you should be able to get a dropout free picture. A stable signal is what counts.
 

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Using my internal Jensen TV930 hidden on top of my entertainment center I get


CHANNEL / FREQUENCY / STATION / SIGNAL STRENGTH

20-1 PBS

20-2 PBS-HD

29-1 20 PBS 84

16-1 21 ABC 71

40-1

41-1 41 WB 67

41-2 41 FOX 67

12-1 52 CBS 60


Those numbers are on the low side tonight. CBS and WB/FOX are usually about 4-5 ticks higher on the scale.


I appears that 41 (WB) has quite a bit of multi-casting going on. I get 3 channels on 41 (40-1 WBDB-DT, 41-1 WBDB again, and 41-2 FOX 35 WUFX).


Also, PBS-HD has gotten really pixellated the last week or so. They may be doing more multi-casting also.


It's nice to have someone else in this area to bounce experiences off of. It sounds like you are really enjoying your new HD. I have the Hughes HTL-HD and I am able to change the aspect ratio to Expand on the receiver to fill the 4:3 image on ABC and CBS digital. I have a DLP TV (no burn-in issues) so I keep my picture at whatever aspect ratio they are broadcasting in.


CBS does have some awesome HD.


Enjoy.
 

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41 (WB) has quite a bit of multi-casting going on. I get 3 channels on 41 (40-1 WBDB-DT, 41-1 WBDB again, and 41-2 FOX 35 WUFX).


Also, PBS-HD has gotten really pixellated the last week or so. They may be doing more multi-casting also.

I'm getting the same channels on my hughes hd tivo.

I was wondering what 40-2 was. The wb and fox are both wide screen, but not hd. I can't really tell much difference between those and my satellite locals. The picture does look a little brighter and the color a little better.

I get a little pixelation sometimes on 41-1 and 41-2. I don't pick up the first 41-1, but I assume they are not broadcasting on that channel.


You may know, but Titantv.com is a great website to look at regarding upcoming hd programming that has guide data for all local hd stations. Neither antennaweb nor titantv show fox as a local digital.


I like the DLP sets. I probably paid more than I should have for a plasma, but I enjoy it. I play games and don't have burn-in problems. I do have slight image retention on an all black screen when I leave a static image on for too long, but it goes away immediately when I change channels or use my screensaver.
 

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Anyone else here having trouble picking up CBS-HD WJTV-DT yesterday and this morning?


I show very little signal strength for them only. I could not lock onto a signal last night and this morning the signal is still very low.
 

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Another Jackson, MS user here. I set up my antenna for local HD about 1.5 years ago. Not much has changed as far as OTA HD broadcasting since then except for the addition of Fox on channel 41-2. Here is what I use:


VU-90 XR Radio Shack antenna mounted in attic

Zenith DTV1080 HD receiver


I live in Brandon, about 2 miles from the downtown area, and I'm about 25 miles from the farthest tower. My channels and signal strengths are as follows (note that my receiver displays a meter bar rather than a numerical readout, so I'll just post my best numerical guess):


WJTV-DT CBS HD 65-75 strength

WAPT-DT ABC HD 75-80 strength

WMPN-DT PBS HD 75-80 strength

WDBD-DT WB ED 55-65 strength

WUFX-DT FOX ED 55-65 strength


All channels come in good at anytime of the day although I do get the occasional audio and video break-ups on the CBS, WB and FOX channels, but nothing I would consider annoying or distracting. ABC comes in the best of all channels and with DD5.1 audio. All others are DD2.0 audio. I noticed WJTV was sending DD5.1 according to my receiver at one point several months ago, but I haven't noticed it since then. The WB and FOX channels are broadcasting digital only, no HD. AFAIK the FOX channel is not even doing widescreen, since every show I've ever seen on it, including the primetime shows that are supposed to be widescreen, show up as 4x3 standard def. Hopefully, the WB and FOX channels will begin HD soon.


Does anyone know if WLBT will be doing HD when they start broadcasting digitally (finally)?


Jeff
 

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Hello Jeff - it's nice to know there are other HD enthusiasts around here. This thread is pretty quiet most of the time.


The station manager for NBC told me that they would be going HD via Time Warner Cable before they began sending a signal OTA. I figured they were prepping for the NBC Olympics HD feed. As of now, it is looking like we will not have any HD from NBC any time soon. I cannot get anyone to respond to my questions about the olympics. And since we are not an O&O market, and TWC is not carrying an HD feed of the olympics, DirecTV will not allow me access to their HD olympic feed.


NBC has really been a HUGE disappointment locally. On the other hand, CBS and ABC have been awesome. I will be getting FOX HD via DirecTV starting in September (I have a waiver for them). I wonder if/when WB is going to go HD here.


Update: TWC is carrying the HD feed of the olympics - and because of that DirecTV is also able to show it on Channel 84 for our area.
 

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just wanted to add one more person to the list of HD enthusiasts in brandon mississippi and get myself subscribed to the thread. i've ordered a samsung dlp, directv HD package, hd directivo, among other things. i'm researching antennas for ota HD and really don't know what to get. all of my stations as reported on antennaweb.org are within 9 degrees of each other and the farthest antenna is 26 miles away. any suggestions? it really needs to be outdoor and somewhat asthetic. it can't be some huge waffle type above my roof. i can put it the height of my satellite (near it) and my satellite is on my southwest wall which is good...
 
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