[Gerry1975]

Both are 12". one is E series, one is the next F series but the F112v2 price is close to double that of the E112 at my local dealer, what is so better about F112v2's performance, is it twice as good in performance ? 16/13 ft room, usage music and movies, should I go for E112 or is F112v2 worth the price? Or a third option, a pair of E112's, would they be better than a single F112v2 ?



Note: kindly don't make responses about buy x brand instead or y brand. If you can answer on topic about JL audio and the models I mentioned, and are knowledgeable about JL audio, only then bother responding. I'm not interested in x or y brand recommendations.

 

[Alan P]

Since you don't want to hear what most of us would probably tell you, maybe you should try Google...?

https://www.google.com/search?clien...hUKEwiQzp-i75TkAhVOIKwKHXXXBx0Q4dUDCAo&uact=5

 

[Gorilla Killa]

Driver is better and it comes with a mic for room optimization.

I would certainly buy 2 e112 vs 1 f112 if that's a option.

 

[Billy p]

For the record....idk why there is not a JL sub forum on AVS...this way questions like this can easily be answered and other x,y,z subs are likely not recommended or discussed.

My 2 cents.../forum/images/smilies/smile.gif

 

[sk373]

For the record....idk why there is not a JL sub forum on AVS...this way questions like this can easily be answered and other x,y,z subs are likely not recommended or discussed.

My 2 cents.../forum/images/smilies/smile.gif

Probably not enough owners or interest. JL caters to a different market from what most AVS’ers in the sub forum fall into, IMHO.

 

[ratbuddy]

Probably not enough owners or interest. JL caters to a different market from what most AVS’ers in the sub forum fall into, IMHO.

People with more money than sense?

 

[sk373]

People with more money than sense?

I wouldn’t say that. There are legitimate reasons to go with a JL E112 or F112v2 vs other brands. Aesthetics and size considerations being the main ones. Sometimes it’s not just about output for the dollar.

 

[Billy p]

People with more money than sense?

I wouldn’️t say that. There are legitimate reasons to go with a JL E112 or F112v2 vs other brands. Aesthetics and size considerations being the main ones. Sometimes it’️s not just about output for the dollar.

Exactly... thou if you do your homework... viable options exist that do both which the OP didn't want to discuss nor consider.

 

[sk373]

Exactly... thou if you do your homework... viable options exist that do both which the OP didn't want to discuss nor consider.

Preaching to the choir, my man!

 

[Gerry1975]

Driver is better and it comes with a mic for room optimization.

I would certainly buy 2 e112 vs 1 f112 if that's a option.

Thx for making the only ontopic reply and answering my E112 vs F112v2 question. My room is actually 15.75 x 12.5 ft and I live on the second floor of my home, don't you think having 2 JL Audio E112's would be too overwhelming for my sized room?
On the question of E112 vs F112v2, the price of the F is a little less than 2x the price of the E. Is the amp on the F really that much better? And would the E not come with its own calibration mic and I'll have to depend on the receiver's software to tune it(if the receiver works on those low end frequencies)? I don't use third party tools like Rew. So would the F having its own calibration be a big deal?

 

[indebtbassfreak]

Thx for making the only ontopic reply and answering my E112 vs F112v2 question. My room is actually 15.75 x 12.5 ft and I live on the second floor of my home, don't you think having 2 JL Audio E112's would be too overwhelming for my sized room?
On the question of E112 vs F112v2, the price of the F is a little less than 2x the price of the E. Is the amp on the F really that much better? And would the E not come with its own calibration mic and I'll have to depend on the receiver's software to tune it(if the receiver works on those low end frequencies)? I don't use third party tools like Rew. So would the F having its own calibration be a big deal?

What receiver are you using? Most will do a pretty good job tuning the low frequencies of your subs and the likes of audyssey XT32 for example will tune the subs separately. Nad and Anthem will do even better room correction for your subs. The only brand that is a bit week is the Yamaha as i believe is does no tuning below 31.5Hz.

So depending on what receiver your using having auto tune built into your subs may not be so important imo.

 

[Gerry1975]

I use a RZ3100, so it must have accu eq, don't know if it works as well for a subwoofer as a subwoofer with its own calibration mic will work. So far the two advantages of the F112v2 seem to be the more powerful amplifier and its own calibration, just have to weigh that against the price of the E. The E is available for demo, the F according to my local dealer is available for order only currently not demo. So I can't compare side by side how powerful the F is in comparison.

 

[indebtbassfreak]

My Integra i just retired has audyssey, but shortly after Onkyo changed to accu eq and was criticized as been a downgrade. Honestly i don't know if the newer versions have been improved and would have to research the specs for sub tuning before i comment on it. If you have or find out this info and in fact there is decent tuning down into the ULF territory and it will tune two subs as separates, a pair of the "E" will certainly imo almost always be better than a single F in a room with multiple seating areas. Better coverage and usually more enveloping bass if properly set up.

That been said, my "single" old Velodyne SPL1200-R (which had built in room eq) was pretty impressive in my 2400^3 open room, so there is an argument for both choices. If you went for the more expensive (singe) F model, yes it will cost a lot more but also will give you a stronger upgrade path if you find one isn't enough.

 

[04rex]

I have an E112, and it is great. If you can do it, I would do 2 E112s. The F112 does not have double the output of the E112, so I do not think it is worth it. If you could only get 1, I would still go E112.

 

[anjunadeep]

Thx for making the only ontopic reply and answering my E112 vs F112v2 question. My room is actually 15.75 x 12.5 ft and I live on the second floor of my home, don't you think having 2 JL Audio E112's would be too overwhelming for my sized room?
On the question of E112 vs F112v2, the price of the F is a little less than 2x the price of the E. Is the amp on the F really that much better? And would the E not come with its own calibration mic and I'll have to depend on the receiver's software to tune it(if the receiver works on those low end frequencies)? I don't use third party tools like Rew. So would the F having its own calibration be a big deal?

E112 is a nice subwoofer I've had quite a bit of time with. Nice clean output for the size. The reason to get two of those rather than one F112v2 is just for more even response in your room. Even if you don't want to tinker, you can put one in the back left corner and another in the front right corner, run Audyssey, and you'll yield some better results.

Is one E112 enough sub? Are two? Depends on your room size and how loud you listen. Most people here are hobbyists that run their bass a little hot (or a lot hot). One thing I actually like about the JL Audio stuff, which is very unpopular here, is that they run a pretty steep high pass below 20Hz. For what they are trying to accomplish in such a small package, it's a smart thing to do, and keeps them from making funny noises when pushed. That said, the limiter is pretty noisey when you do hit it. People are going to push you away from them here, as you know, because they are totally off their rockers with what they are charging now and just had ANOTHER price raise, but they make some subs that go louder in a much smaller package than a lot of stuff recommended here. But you pay for it.

 

[Gorilla Killa]

My room is actually 15.75 x 12.5 ft and I live on the second floor of my home, don't you think having 2 JL Audio E112's would be too overwhelming for my sized room?
I don't use third party tools like Rew. So would the F having its own calibration be a big deal?

No 2 would be better for smoothing and overall output, if you could AB you would then understand. I have much more woofage in a room not much bigger than yours. If you don't enjoy excess 1 may be enough.

My Integra i just retired has audyssey, but shortly after Onkyo changed to accu eq and was criticized as been a downgrade. Honestly i don't know if the newer versions have been improved and would have to research the specs for sub tuning before i comment on it. If you have or find out this info and in fact there is decent tuning down into the ULF territory and it will tune two subs as separates, a pair of the "E" will certainly imo almost always be better than a single F in a room with multiple seating areas. Better coverage and usually more enveloping bass if properly set up.

That been said, my "single" old Velodyne SPL1200-R (which had built in room eq) was pretty impressive in my 2400^3 open room, so there is an argument for both choices. If you went for the more expensive (singe) F model, yes it will cost a lot more but also will give you a stronger upgrade path if you find one isn't enough.

Accueq is a POS, at least on my 900 it is.

 

[jsc79]

Dual E112’s and a MiniDSP 2x4hd to do the eq if you know how to use REW.

I had a single E112 prior to my Rythmiks and I really liked it.

 

[Gerry1975]

Exactly... thou if you do your homework... viable options exist that do both which the OP didn't want to discuss nor consider.

There is a simple answer to that. I'm not located in America, the 'viable options' you speak of , referring to American ID brands of subwoofers, dont sell outside America. Hope you know that. And if I import one of them from America, then after adding shipping based on weight (subwoofers have stiff shipping costs) and custom duties to the price, I would be left with absolutely no price advantage.
Therefore the question of me considering those 'viable options', or not considering them, does not even come into the picture.

 

[sk373]

I concur with others that two E112’s are a better option than one F112v2. Smoother bass response over a wider listening area.

 

[Billy p]

Exactly... thou if you do your homework... viable options exist that do both which the OP didn't want to discuss nor consider.

There is a simple answer to that. I'm not located in America, the 'viable options' you speak of , referring to American ID brands of subwoofers, dont sell outside America. Hope you know that. And if I import one of them from America, then after adding shipping based on weight (subwoofers have stiff shipping costs) and custom duties to the price, I would be left with absolutely no price advantage.
Therefore the question of me considering those 'viable options', or not considering them, does not even come into the picture.

Understandable..../forum/images/smilies/smile.gif

I have the same burden....exchange rate, brokerage fees, duty(if applicable) and finally a13% federal tax to top it off.

I'd like to add, that I've always been an advocate for buying the biggest single sub within a set budget.... regardless of power...you can always dial it down so...not to offend folks around you.

Good luck...on what JL product you chose...😊