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Well saw Jurrasic Park III Last night in the Cinemark in Valley View, Ohio. I am sorry to say the presentation was a disappointment. The picture was very dim and there was no contrast at all! I previously viewed Shrek in the same cinema and was fairly impressed. I went with a group of people who are very familiar with DLP technology and the collective response was "DLP of this scale has a long way to go." The biggest problem was that the movie takes place in a dim jungle (go figure) and the majority for the time the characters are hiding in the shadows. Well imagine watching a movie with absolutely no shadow detail with all you characters hiding in the shadows. Big problem. It is to bad too, the movie has a slightly better story line than Lost World but I was too distracted to enjoy it. On a positive note the sound was great! Not to overbearing with the bass and great detail in the dialog in the Dino-chasing scenes.


Regards,

Chuck


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[Man E]

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Originally posted by Chuck Coughlin: It is to bad too, the movie has a slightly better story line than Lost World but I was too distracted to enjoy it.

It would take a significantly better story to get me to pay to see it. JPII stunk.



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[TheLongshot]

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Stunk is not the word for it. JP2 was one of the worst movies of all time. For that reason, JP3 is definitely a renter only IMO.

Just curious, but why do you guys base how good JP3 is because of how bad JP2 was? Different directors, different writers.


Just as I note, I did talk to someone last night who did see a screening last week and thought it was pretty good. Reviews have been decent.


Just as a note, I'm not going to see it because I'm just not a fan of those films, not based on how good JP2 was.


Jason

 

[kstirman]

Slipping down the slope?


How about never got up a slope he could fall down in the first place. . . .

 

[NickB]

Yeah, I hear ya! It's crap like:


Jaws,

Close Encounters,

Indy,

ET,

Color Purple,

Empire of the Sun,

Schindlers' List,

Amistad,

Private Ryan,

and A.I.


that confirm he is just getting progressivly worse with each successive film.


Give me a break guys, 1941, Hook, and one crappy dinosour movie does nothing to tarnish the rest of those gems.


NickB

 

[Brian Corr]

I saw it last night at a DLP theater here.

I had the same reaction to the picture. Seemed very dim and lacking contrast.

The movie is enjoyable and is much better the JP II.

 

[GMancusa]

Totally agree Nick!!


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[CucMan]

Nick,


No lie. "Saving Private Ryan" forever changed the way I think of "movies". Quick damnation for a director with that level of artistic vision/integrity - toss-off lizard flick or not.

 

[Mando]

Nick for president!!! Nick for President!! http://www.avsforum.com/ubb/smile.gif

 

[Digitalhorde]

JP2 was an atrocity. It was proof that Spielberg is slipping down the slope towards mediocrity. The whole little gymnastics girl bit made me want to toss my popcorn.

 

[PAP]

Stunk is not the word for it. JP2 was one of the worst movies of all time. For that reason, JP3 is definitely a renter only IMO.


Sorry to hear about the DLP theater experience. I've never seen a DLP outside my own house.




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[Tom Hilton]

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Originally posted by kstirman: Slipping down the slope? How about never got up a slope he could fall down in the first place. . . .

This seems a very harsh assessment of Steven Spielberg---IMO, he is one of the very best movie makers presently working, and may be one of the all time greats before his career is finished. Other posters to this thread have noted many of the fine films Spielberg has directed. I'm wondering what makes him such a poor film maker in your view. Would you care to comment a bit more?


Anyway, I guess this is just a case of "different strokes for different folks". You have to love these forums for divergence of opinion http://www.avsforum.com/ubb/smile.gif .




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[NickB]

You know, maybe they confused Spielberg with Lucas - then they would have a point http://www.avsforum.com/ubb/smile.gif


On a serious note, I honestly think it will take a number of years before A.I. gets the recognition it deserves from the film critics and general public.


Take a look at the 4 star user reviews on Yahoo for a movie like Swordfish and then compare that to the extremely negative reviews of A.I., well it makes you wonder why they released it in the middle of all these mindless summer blockbusters. Too bad they didn't push it back a few months and re-edit a couple of scenes, I think audiences would have received it better.


This is one of those movies like 2001, Blade Runner, and 12 Monkeys, re-visit it in 10 years and I think you'll find a much different popular opinion of it.


NickB

 

[David600]

it's just another proof that DLP for REAL movies and not just computer cartoons is still a shame compared to an argentic film print. I say the laser technology will rule but we have to take down TI first http://www.avsforum.com/ubb/biggrin.gif


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[Huckster]

David600,


You may be right, DLP may be the root of all that is evil. http://www.avsforum.com/ubb/rolleyes.gif However, I have a slightly different opinion. http://www.avsforum.com/ubb/biggrin.gif


I think that, just like CDs and DVDs, engineers and artists that move content from one medium (in this case, film) to another (digital film) have a LEARNING CURVE to follow before they can get the most out of the new medium. Hopefully, by the time another hardware company actually starts shipping competing technology (ie. D-ILA) digital cinema projectors, content will be better mastered for that medium.


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[Frank J Manrique]

Is all in the absolute resolution and contrast dynamic range capability of the medium...something film has gobs of...and DLP E-Cinema lacks...simple as that (nevermind poor presentations at most multiplexes; that's a different story)...


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[kstirman]

I'd rather not get into the discussion of art v. entertainment. I like a summer blockbuster as much as the next person, and Spielberg has a great sense for what most people like. I suppose my tastes don't fall in with most people.


I think my favorite Spielberg movie is Goonies. How he gets child actors to be so good is beyond me.


As for AI, believe me, I really wanted to like it. What a waste of time. . . . but that Teddy sure was creepy!


Kelly

 

[DanHouck]

Come on, guys! How many movies do you go see where you get the opportunity to root for the dinos hoping they will EAT the human cast, particularly those snotty kids, as quickly as possible? http://www.avsforum.com/ubb/biggrin.gif


Dan

 

[bluedevils]

Is this the AI review thread? http://www.avsforum.com/ubb/wink.gif


The main thing I think went wrong that might not make AI cult classics like 2001, blade runner, etc... is that everything is spelled out for you and explained to you. Kubrick is famous for making you ask...what just happened?


On the topic of DLP JP3 in the cinema....We've heard and/or seen people get great picture from home theater DLPs, my guess would be that the mastering of the digital copy was sub par. Just a guess.

 

[Don O’Brien]

I saw this film in a traditional projection theater and felt the dark scenes demonstrated were subpar. I would love to compare them side by side. I do not believe this film will be a video reference disk. Too many dark scenes with bad contrast.


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