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I have been working on my basement and theater for the last 16 months now. It's almost complete save for some finishing touches and acoustic treatments.


My wife and I ran the budget the other day and established that given our current income, we can't really our house any longer (I'm working on commissions predominantly and being in auto sales, we've really been hit hard lately).


So, it's more than likely that we have to sell our house. :( Just when I can see the finish line in sight, somebody else gets to enjoy the fruits of my hard work - when I won't be there!!!! Arghhhhhhhhhhh!!!! All that time and money and creative thought put to waste constructing something that I now will no longer be able to enjoy.


There is some redemption though.....I'll likely be able to salvage a lot of the more premium equipment from the theater and substitute it with less expensive stuff that I have laying around. The theater will still be functional and look stunning, and the new owners will get the equipment in the deal.


So, we may move to another state if our income stays as low as it is currently - make a fresh start. If we do move, I'm looking to go somewhere that is reasonably warm and also gun friendly (so no CA, DC, IL, OH,NY or MA). Anybody have any ideas where my wife and I can go? (And please don't be a smartalec and say ".....go back home, ya bloody Aussie'!! :D:D:D) We're staying in the USA for a while longer yet!


Thanks for reading....just wanted to vent my frustration and pain.


I think I need a beer...............................or seven!
 

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Sorry to hear that man, but on the bright side you'll be able to start again in a new place with the knoledege you already have.


MN (where i live) is bloody cold in the winter but nice the other two months, and we're a state where hunting is a right of passage so we have reasonable gun laws. AZ is warm all the time (unless it's dark) and has a gun law or two but not much really, especially out in the desert. Relitively low cost of living there and decent jobs if you are in a skilled profession.
 

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It pains me to read your story...hope there will be better days ahead.


A gun friendly state? I'm in Canada so the only people with guns are cops and crooks, if everyone here had one we'd be shooting our ballocks off! I have a friend in New Hampshire, he has a gun - basically everyone and their kids has one there, he says you can carry it, own it, just don't cross the state with it. And, there is no sales tax! Not quite sure of the weather though.


Best of luck to you.:)
 

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I have been working on my basement and theater for the last 16 months now. It's almost complete save for some finishing touches and acoustic treatments.


My wife and I ran the budget the other day and established that given our current income, we can't really our house any longer (I'm working on commissions predominantly and being in auto sales, we've really been hit hard lately).


So, it's more than likely that we have to sell our house. :( Just when I can see the finish line in sight, somebody else gets to enjoy the fruits of my hard work - when I won't be there!!!! Arghhhhhhhhhhh!!!! All that time and money and creative thought put to waste constructing something that I now will no longer be able to enjoy.


There is some redemption though.....I'll likely be able to salvage a lot of the more premium equipment from the theater and substitute it with less expensive stuff that I have laying around. The theater will still be functional and look stunning, and the new owners will get the equipment in the deal.


So, we may move to another state if our income stays as low as it is currently - make a fresh start. If we do move, I'm looking to go somewhere that is reasonably warm and also gun friendly (so no CA, DC, IL, OH,NY or MA). Anybody have any ideas where my wife and I can go? (And please don't be a smartalec and say ".....go back home, ya bloody Aussie'!! :D:D:D) We're staying in the USA for a while longer yet!


Thanks for reading....just wanted to vent my frustration and pain.


I think I need a beer...............................or seven!
Tough break. Hope you do better after the move.


I'd take all the gear with me. Home buyers don't expect a functioning home theater. If they're already into HT, they probably already have gear. And those who aren't won't pay a dime more for a house with it. It is your HT construction that could add to the selling price if it's well done - acoustically and aesthetically.


Sales is a good profession, but cars have become a commodity. The internet has seen to that. Except for high-end cars.


Good luck!
 

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Wildhunter, Beatles and Pepar......thanks for the support. I was thinking of AZ or NV as places we could go. I do have a Business Degree so there may be work for me out there.


Beatles, I've been to NH several times....lovely state, just too COLD!! We also have the right of (legal) CCW here in MI (I'm a firearms instructor here) and we have a very safe state within reason....as do NH and every other state that has legal concealed carry.


Australia, Canada and the UK all are run by socialist governments that support gun control, and the crazy thing is, is that all three of these countries have had rising violent crime rates since they took the citizens right to own/carry a firearm away!!! You know the gun buyback in Canada that was supposed to save all those lives from gun crimes? Well, the Government had to admit that it was the worst ever cost blunder by the Canadian government.....there has not been one bit of proof that taking away guns from responsible people has saved one extra life!! Guess it's because good people generally don't do bad things.....the government just can't seem to realise that!


Also, with a CCW permit, you can carry into another state and within that state as long at that state recognises visitor permits from the home state. I have NH, FL and MI CCW permits and I can collectively, legally and safely carry in about 18 different states.


I don't actually hunt, just sport shoot at things that don't bleed. I've seen firsthand the consequence of gun control in Australia and England, and wish to move to another state where I can continue to exercise my second amendment rights!!


So, nodody in Canada would be shooting each other....just the criminals and cops duking it out as always, and maybe a good guy getting a criminal ocasionally.


Sorry to rant....it's just a personal topic of mine! :D


Re the equipment, I can strip most of the equipment out of there and leave enough in there for it to still look good and sound good....without losing too much money and also, helping to guarantee the sale of my home. If somebody has their own equipment, I'll deduct a little off the price of the house I guess. Plus, if I leave my Panny 300 in there, it gives me an excuse, and the funds to go out and buy a Sony HS20, Z2 or AE500!!!


I'm taking my Buttkickers though!!!!


Actually, one thing though.....the realtor was confident that the theater was the main reason what was going to sell the house and impress the buyers. Hope she is right.


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Are you kidding me... Come on down to Texas... we're about as gun friendly as they come and warm too... I'm in the Houston area and we get loads of warm to hot weather about 9-10 months a year, if you want it more temperate in the winter Dallas still gets snow once a year or so.


We do have conceal carry here with a licence. We thought that since everyone else thinks we still ride horses have tumbleweed in our street and have shootouts we might as well live up to some of the rep!


Houston is very warm and green

San Antonio is very warm and a not as green

Dallas is not as warm sorta green


No desert areas at all... very low, by comparison, cost of living.
 

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shoulda mentioned texas as well. That is another area we are very much considering! Thanks for the heads up Sam. We'll definitely consider Texas!
 

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Hang in there Sime!


Re-Fi and try and weather the storm (if only for the sake of the Home Theater). THe housing market here in SE Michigan is poor and many who are selling are getting killed with low offers. Things will turn around soon and you may end up going from the frying pan and into the fryer if you act too hastily!!


What brand of cars are you selling??
 

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Um, I would say that west Texas has desert areas. Heck, there are even areas with sand dunes. But East Texas is quite nice. A little hot in the mid summer, but nice winters make up for it.


No state income tax, and you can carry a shotgun and walk down the street. As long as you don't have to live IN the city, then it's cheap. Just find a place in the suburbs.
 

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Y'all gotta come to Texas! :)


Houston/Sugar Land is a great city to sell cars in. All people think about here are cars and guns. I do have to disagree with SG about Houston being green though. If there's a spare patch of green around, they usually cover it with concrete for the freeway system faster than you can reload your 9mm clip.


You will have to get used to unbearable humidity, but everything is air conditioned so who cares?


My office is within a 5 mile strip of the following dealers: Toyota, Lexus, Inifiniti, Lincoln/Mercury, BMW, Jaguar, Volvo, Mercedes, Dodge, Chrysler and a few others I have forgotten. Many of the employees are patients of mine and over the last year, despite a "down" economy, they have been setting records.


The traffic is terrible and the mayor is an idiot, but there are more restaurants than you can imagine (we recently received the distinction of being the most obese city in the US) and the value for your dollar goes quite far here.


Good luck,

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Texas is sounding pretty good!


Jeff, we already did refi our house recently at 5.375% for 30 years.......so we did pretty well I think. Our payments came down $500 per month from the 7.25% we were paying......which was good, and will go down another $500 a month when I turn my lease car back in January 2004. I'll need to buy a clunker to get around though!! Of course, we'll try and hang in there, but it's tough when you are borrowing $1000 a month out of your home equity account just to keep your house another month!! OTOH, if we get low balled in the offer, we'll have to stay here. Because, if we were to move out, it would probably cost us $800-1000 per month to rent something.


I am selling Chevrolet's at Cauley Chevrolet in West Bloomfield....so if ya know anybody who needs a Chevy, I'd love to help them out. Not to brag at all, but my customer service satisfaction rating is 100% (as judged by my customers), so I really do take care of them.


But Automotive sales is not what I went to university for, and it's certainly not why I am studying for an MBA. I'd like to get back into Advertising but the industry is very tight on hiring right now. I'd prefer to sell cars only if I have to.


So, guess we'll just have to see what happens!! We have to consider all avenues too, hence looking at other states with a cheaper cost of living.


Oh, did I forget to mention that my mum has just been diagnosed with breast cancer? I have to leave to return to Australia on Friday morning for three weeks while she has a mastectomy. Somebody REALLY doesn't like me up there :(


But, I'll keep soldiering on. That's one thing I am very talented at. :)
 

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Hang tough man! Those that try to work it out usually find a way. I was somewhat in your shoes 2 months ago. I finished up 20 years in the Air Force and was looking for a second career. We didn't know where we would be living or what kind of money I would be making or what job I would have. SCARY!!!!

But I hit the job market hard, there seems to be alot of job fairs in the fall and spring. I know I went to a few in Ann Arbor, Kalamazoo, and Battle Creek. I got lucky and found a good job here in Dayton where spent my last tour of duty. I would rather be home in Michigan by the family but at least I am lucky enough have a job to support my family.


Hang in there, good luck and keep us informed


Gun control is being able to hit your target :D



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I'll also endorse TX, in fact besides MN and AZ it's the only other state I'd consider living in. The people are in general great, everything is just a little bigger and you gotta love that Texas drawl. Houston seemed really nice but Dallas was a touch to urban for my tastes, YMMV.
 

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Sime,


I've have lived in San Angelo TX and in Tucson AZ, enjoyed and can recommend both. A little hot for me, but anyplace is what you make of it. Both have excellent hunting!


All the knowledge you have acquired during this HT build will make the next one (if necessary) all the better


sign me

A Michigander Living in Ohio :D
 

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Sime,


Since your stuck in auto sales for the moment, have you considered selling a more upscale brand such as Audi or BMW? I know the dealership I got my A4 at, is doing fine even in these tough financial times and my salesman seems to always be busy.


A fellow Michigander. :)
 

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Actually worm5406, Beretta may be friendly, buy DC itself isn't gun friendly at all!!! There is no legal CCW permits and I also believe that you can't own a radar detector (is that right?). The DC legislature sees to it that the only two classes of individual who can carry a firearm are police and criminals. Responsible law abiding citizens need not apply!!! Thanks for the tip though - think I'll have to pass on that one!


Opi....I might have to investigate another dealership...maybe a higher end as you suggest. 'Cause Chevy's are making me no money at all!


Jerry, I know that the next HT will be even better! Just have to find the time and cash to build it! I also agree about the gun control!! Once again, we'll have to check out Texas if it comes down to that.


Wildhunter, thanks also for the tips!


Cheers all.......I'll be gone for a few days as tomorrow I am leaving for Australia to see my mother. I'll be posting from Oz though.
 

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Sime,


Do like one of the others said, hang in there, you just might surprise yourself. A few years back, I was where you are and boy ! Am I glad I didn't sale when I wanted too.


We have finally moved (2 months ago), and we are in a bigger house than I ever thought I'd have. If I would have sold a couple of years back, we wouldn't have gotten this size house with an acre backyard to boot !


So, hang tough, and we are all rooting for ya !!!!


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My appologies. In your next home, you can build a bigger and better Home Theater. Good Luck with your move!
 
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