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So....are they making something better we can drop in?!? If so, I will wait on that!!! I love my 4722's and am very intrigued by the 52 upgrade but if there is something better in the works then I will wait. I have been saving for the 52 upgrade, but maybe I need to wait it out?


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Looks like the 2453H-SL's are a great drop in option. @notnyt has great data for many combinations. The beryllium 2452 would be really sweet, but lots of $$$$.

I am kind of glad the D2 driver from the M2's didn't work well with this horn, it's price has skyrocketed back up to $1999 last I checked a week or so ago. Few months ago it was around $400. JBL must have decided to many were going to DIYers.
 

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Looks like the 2453H-SL's are a great drop in option. @notnyt has great data for many combinations. The beryllium 2452 would be really sweet, but lots of $$$$.


Yeah...I have been following all the data from the get go. Just wondering if there will be something better in the future....oh wait I guess I just answered my own question....there is ALWAYS something better in the future....or not....


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I thought you had, all the newer drivers are for M2 derived waveguides. I would assume this would indicate that at some point the Cinema series will be updated. That is not necessarily a good thing.

I am looking at the older 2447's. They made a tone of them and they are readily available on ebay. I would prefer ones with trashed diaphragms as I would want to replace with Be anyway.
 

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Definitely an interesting concept and probably will yield some stellar results, but it will be interesting to see what is coming and what everyone is hyping about next! Just for money sake, I think I am going to hold with the stock CDs.


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Definitely an interesting concept and probably will yield some stellar results, but it will be interesting to see what is coming and what everyone is hyping about next! Just for money sake, I think I am going to hold with the stock CDs.


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JBL pro does not play the release a new CD driver every 12 month game or new speaker every 12 month game. They have very spread out release cycles so if anything comes....it might literally be 5 to 10 years. These compression drivers we are discussing have been out for years and years. Just an FYI.

I'll let you know how I like the upgraded cd's next week.


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Can't wait to hear your feedback. I hope you love them.
 

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I recently purchased a pair of JBL 2453H-SL cds today. Much thanks to Molon Labe for selling to me and installing them for me. I got home around 10pm tonight and I've been listening for over two and a half hours straight. I can say straight up that there is certainly a discernable difference between the stock cds and these drop in upgrade JBL 2453H-SL cds.

The stocks cds that come with the 4722n are very good in my opinion. However I do recall coming across a bit of harsh treble on a small number of songs over the last six months. No such issue with these cds.

The highs are noticeably more refined, smoother, and very soft on the ears. The stock cds are noticeably brighter with more piercing highs.

Treble is definitely more pronounced and defined with these new cds in my opinion. Not convinced I hear any major difference in the midrange. No big deal since the mids were very good with the stock cd.

Listening to Mariah Carey's "You should be mine" right now and the vocal clarity in her voice is astonishly clear with these new cds. Watched Tron Legacy for a half hour and right off the bat I felt the dialogue was noticeably sharper and clearer in my opinion.

Dialogue and vocals with music is definitely more immersive now. It seems like the singers are singing live within the room because the dialogue and vocals are so effortlessly clear and soft.

I've owned many speakers from Martin Logan, Klipsch, Bowers and Wilkins, Yorkville, etc and they are not touching what I am hearing right now.

I recently heard a pair of Klipsch Jubilees in Houston and the 4722n speakers with the upgraded 2453H-SL cds best them on highs while I would give the Jubes a very slight edge in the midrange dept.I definitely like the upgraded 4722n speakers better than the Jubilees overall which says alot because I was obsessed with purchasing a pair of Jubes at one time.


These speakers truly are something special and I feel very blessed to own a pair at such an affordable price. The performance they offer for the price is just mindblowing.

I'm as tickled as a pig in slop right now. Thanks again to Molon Labe for giving me a chance to own the new cds. I also want to say I was given a demo of Molon Labe's system and to say it was impressive is a massive understatement.

His Dolby Atmos setup is the real deal. Hearing the sound of rain panning from left to overhead to right and behind you was unreal.

His 4722n speakers put out a huge soundstage so his entire room was the sweet spot. Bass with his SI 24 subs was deep, thunderous, sharp, and articulate.

Definitely one of the most articulate systems from top to bottom that I've heard. His media room is well treated and just flat out cool looking. And his house is gorgeous. He is a very blessed man. No doubt about that.

I also want to say thank you for Notnyt for all of the research and data gathering you did when researching possible upgrades for this speaker. Your skillset and willingness to share your knowledge to help others is greatly appreciated.
 

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I recently purchased a pair of JBL 2453 cds today. Much thanks to Molon Labe for selling to me and installing them for me. I got home around 10pm tonight and I've been listening for over two and a half hours straight. I can say straight up that there is certainly a discernable difference between the stock cds and these drop in upgrade JBL 2453 cds.
Thanks for posting your feedback! ;)
 

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I recently purchased a pair of JBL 2453H-SL cds today. Much thanks to Molon Labe for selling to me and installing them for me. I got home around 10pm tonight and I've been listening for over two and a half hours straight. I can say straight up that there is certainly a discernable difference between the stock cds and these drop in upgrade JBL 2453H-SL cds.
Thanks for the review and thoughts.

Also, as you mentioned, a big thank you to notnyt for leading the charge here with his great documentation and thoughts earlier this year that got the train rolling for a lot of folks on upgrading the CD, including myself.

Also sounds like Molon Labe hooked you up. Always a true gentlemen.
 

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Definitely an interesting concept and probably will yield some stellar results, but it will be interesting to see what is coming and what everyone is hyping about next! Just for money sake, I think I am going to hold with the stock CDs.


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As LumensLover just pointed out, the worthwhile substitute for the 52 is already readily available in the 53, the upgrade is certainly noticeable and has been confirmed by many forum members already, and for the price you can sell the stock CD's and stick the 53's in as a drop-in replacement, it is essentially a no-brainer upgrade for those that want to have the maximum amount of capability from their speakers.
 

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I've owned many speakers from Martin Logan, Klipsch, Bowers and Wilkins, Yorkville, etc and they are not touching what I am hearing right now.

These speakers truly are something special and I feel very blessed to own a pair at such an affordable price. The performance they offer for the price is just mindblowing.
Congrats man! It's always great to read when someone's thrilled with their system. :)
 

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I changed the settings on my old ass onkyo 805 and the high frequency fatigue was almost completely gone. I'm just using the onkyo for now until flooring is down then I can see how they perform through a NAD M25 and marantz 8801. Listening to music is not nearly as fatiguing. Though, I still have the new CD's coming so hopefully its even better.
 

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@LumensLover - Thanks for the kind words, it was a pleasure meeting you. Since I have not been to any of the G2G meets, I have no comparrison how my theater sounds in comparrison to the other home systems. I only know what I know, which is obviously limited in a comparative sense. Getting positive feedback helps tremondously. I am glad you are enjoying the CDs, I knew you would like them. Knowing whom you work for, don't take it personal that I hope we never meet again unless it is at an AVS function :D

@podboy - Your CDs will ship tomorrow.

Don't worry folks, I am not ditching my setup. I just dropped down to the stock CD on my 4722 surrounds because I couldn't detect much, if any, discernible difference over the stock CD when the speaker is being used in surround duties, especially for movies. I am diverting those funds to my 80s/retro arcade machine sickness.

@beastaudio - Your loaner stock CDs are also shipping tomorrow.
 

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@LumensLover - Thanks for the kind words, it was a pleasure meeting you. Since I have not been to any of the G2G meets, I have no comparrison how my theater sounds in comparrison to the other home systems. I only know what I know, which is obviously limited in a comparative sense. Getting positive feedback helps tremondously. I am glad you are enjoying the CDs, I knew you would like them. Knowing whom you work for, don't take it personal that I hope we never meet again unless it is at an AVS function :D

@podboy - Your CDs will ship tomorrow.

Don't worry folks, I am not ditching my setup. I just dropped down to the stock CD on my 4722 surrounds because I couldn't detect much, if any, discernible difference over the stock CD when the speaker is being used in surround duties, especially for movies. I am diverting those funds to my 80s/retro arcade machine sickness.

@beastaudio - Your loaner stock CDs are also shipping tomorrow.
SWEEEEET Will get measurements up ASAP and get them back your way after a listening session or two :) Thanks dood!
 

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Can someone that has purchased the 4722N's PM where you purchased them?
In case you haven't received any PMs, here is a good contact:

John Bayer
National Sales / Account Manager
Full Compass Systems
9770 Silicon Prairie Pkwy.
Madison, WI 53593-8442
P: 800-356-5844 x1184
F: 608-831-6330
E: [email protected]
 
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