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I currently have a jvc rs420, Ive had it for awhile, 2 years in november. Ive watched 4 4k movies. My receiver doesnt do 4k passthrough and I dont like the audio delays I get if bypassing it. So Im considering selling it for a non 4k 1080p JVC, used obviously. There are a bajillion jvc model numbers out there, which are the newest of the old 1080p? Id like to start browsing. Maybe even find one with an anamorphic lens would be nice too!
 

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What are you using to bypass? There have been a couple threads and lots of talk on the hdfury and the much cheaper ezcoo that will separate your audio and video. Run 4k to the projector and hdmi to the receiver for audio. Don't think anyone has complained about audio lag.

While I still love my old rs45, and I think most would recommend a model a little later than that, I would try the ezcoo for $30 and see if that does the trick.

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I have a sony x800, so I run the audio/video hdmi straight to the projector and then the 2nd hdmi (audio only) to the receiver. But really I dont watch enough 4k content, my brother in law is interested in purchasing it. I just dont want to get rid of my blacks. Normally I just run the hdmi straight to my denon x4000 and watch 1080p, and really, im fine with 1080p.

So rs45, thats something to look for.
 

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I just want to clarify because I’m confused by your post and maybe others are too. The 420 is a native 1080 machine, that can use e-shift to display a “faux” 4K image. You can turn it off and just display the native 1080 resolution. I dont understand what you are trying to accomplish with buying a model without e-shift, since it can simply be turned off. That being said, the newest JVC without e-shift is the RS46.
 

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Also, if you use the dynamic iris with the manual iris set more open than closed, it would be quite a step down in black levels (especially in fades to black, regardless of manual iris setting) to go with an older, non-iris model. I have the RS4910 and don’t use the e-shift because I can’t see the resolution increase and I find it too noisy. I would never give up the better blacks with the iris, though.
 

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I just want to clarify because I’m confused by your post and maybe others are too. The 420 is a native 1080 machine, that can use e-shift to display a “faux” 4K image. You can turn it off and just display the native 1080 resolution. I dont understand what you are trying to accomplish with buying a model without e-shift, since it can simply be turned off. That being said, the newest JVC without e-shift is the RS46.

Oh, well yes, in that case to clarify the 4k eshift is a function that I never use. I know someone who can benefit from it and is looking for a projector that can do 4k content. I can sell to him and buy one that doesnt do 4k eshift was my thoughts. Right now its just tech that ill probably never use, the cost of discs is too much. If I can sell this thing, buy a rs45, rs46, rs49(?), x500 (?)...I may be able to do a screen upgrade too if the difference is enough, dont think a anamorphic lense will happen. Going from a 106" 2.35:1 screen to a 115" 16:9 screen is more worth my money than a 4k eshift function that I never use.

The iris on my rs420 is set to manual. My room is black and completely light controlled. I dont like noticing the iris opening and closing, no matter how quick or slow I seem to notice it.
 

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I dont think ill quite get a 1000 off the deal, maybe $500-700. Atleast I know what to look for now.
 

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What do you guys think is a fair price for a RS46u vs a RS45u?

Also, where does the X30 sit?
 

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What do you guys think is a fair price for a RS46u vs a RS45u?

Also, where does the X30 sit?
I would buy nothing older then a RS46/x35. Earlier models had too many lamp issues. RS46 "in good condition" is worth maybe $600 to $800 in my opinion. RS4910/RS49U/X500 maybe $1K. There are way too many sellers asking way too much for these used JVC's so be patient and wait for a reasonable deal.

EDIT: here is a list of older JVC models.
VC Models – Consumer vs Professional line
2017 – 2018
DLA-X990R / RS640
DLA-X790R / RS540
DLA-X590R / RS440
JVC Projectors Jan 2017
DLA-X970R / RS620
DLA-X770R / RS520
DLA-X570R / RS420
JVC Projectors Cedia 2015 – end of 2016
DLA-X950R / RS600
DLA-X750R / RS500
DLA-X550R / RS400

JVC D-ILA home theater projectors – Cedia 2013 – Cedia 2015
DLA-X900R/RS67/RS6710
DLA-X700R/RS57
DLA-X500R/RS49/RS4910

DLA-X95R/DLA-RS66 Cedia 2012 - 2013
DLA-X75R/DLA-RS56
DLA-X55R/DLA-RS48 / RS4810
DLA-X35/DLA-RS46

X70R = RS55 Cedia 2011
X30 = RS45

X9 = RS60 Cedia 2010
X7 = RS50
X3 = RS40


HD990 = RS35 Cedia 2009 - 2010
 
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I would buy nothing older then a RS46/x35. Earlier models had too many lamp issues.

Lamp issues as in some dim some bright and longevity? And yea, people are asking way more than 600-800.
 

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I currently have a jvc rs420, Ive had it for awhile, 2 years in november. Ive watched 4 4k movies. My receiver doesnt do 4k passthrough and I dont like the audio delays I get if bypassing it. So Im considering selling it for a non 4k 1080p JVC, used obviously. There are a bajillion jvc model numbers out there, which are the newest of the old 1080p? Id like to start browsing. Maybe even find one with an anamorphic lens would be nice too!
JVC had a big boost in lumens on the RS400, RS420, RS440 vs the older models. You will lose a lot more than just 4K by getting something older.
 

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Ill see how this auction goes. Really hope I get outbid. Then maybe ill just keep the rs420. Never had a complaint or issue with it. Its at 1470 hrs right now, bought it with 1100.
 

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Ill see how this auction goes. Really hope I get outbid. Then maybe ill just keep the rs420. Never had a complaint or issue with it. Its at 1470 hrs right now, bought it with 1100.
I'm not sure what you're bidding on, but if it's an RS46 or something in this range, then that will be a sizeable downgrade. I went from an RS49u to an RS500 - never engaged e-shift or watched any 4K content at this time, and the upgrade was massive. The bulb life on the RS500 is just way longer than the previous models. The brightness on low lamp on the RS500 (which is same as your RS420), is brighter on low than the RS46 on high lamp. This is just a very poor downgrade. Not sure how much money you think you're going to save doing this, but whatever it is, it's not worth it.
 

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its a rs45. If I get it it will be $395. Thats why im blown away no one has out bid me, and generally when I do that and hope to be outbid it never happens lol. Someone needs to bid 396 and ill be happy.

edit, BTW. I mean right now we are comparing what..a great projector to a good projector? Its not like the rs45 is some throw away garbage projector...atleast thats my mind set right now. If I get a downgrade in performance but still have a "good" image instead of a "great" image, I mean for under $400...thats acceptable to me if this is the way it goes and I dont get outbid lol. Other rs46 I found the guy wants $1000.
 

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Since we are talking about these pjs, I have a question. I have the 4910. For me, good blacks are the most important thing. I would not be satisfied with anything worse than what I have now. I also like a dimmer picture overall. I think I am currently about 8ftL and am completely satisfied with that level of brightness(no HDR). I am always thinking about upgrading to the 57 or even the 67 for better blacks. I have never really considered going for the newer series, because of the big increase in brightness. I have always assumed, that with the same contrast as the previous series(60k for the lower end, and 120k+ for the higher models), the higher brightness will translate to higher black levels. I think the only way to counteract that, is if the iris can close down more on the newer models, to bring the brightness down even further than you could on the older models. I don't believe this is the case. Am I correct in my assumptions? Thanks.
 

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@robbyc30 Honestly my mind has thought that too. With my rs420 its not an issue unless you get into the 4k hdr stuff and have settings wrong.
 

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its a rs45. If I get it it will be $395. Thats why im blown away no one has out bid me, and generally when I do that and hope to be outbid it never happens lol. Someone needs to bid 396 and ill be happy.

edit, BTW. I mean right now we are comparing what..a great projector to a good projector? Its not like the rs45 is some throw away garbage projector...atleast thats my mind set right now. If I get a downgrade in performance but still have a "good" image instead of a "great" image, I mean for under $400...thats acceptable to me if this is the way it goes and I dont get outbid lol. Other rs46 I found the guy wants $1000.
How big is your screen? The RS420 is worth what, $1200 used?
 
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