Coderguy. I haven't forgotten asbout you. I don't get or agree with a statement that Runcos calibrate better because they are closer to having a correct calibration out of the box. If one unit is calibrated by the manufacturer and another of the same unit is not, they should both be caple of the same level or quality of calibration If projector X, not a Runco, is off even considerably out of the box, if the right controls are there, if they have enough available range, if they are independent in operation etc, there is no reason it can't be calibrated as one out of the box. Of course if a projector simply can't produce the correct primaries, it can't be calibrated correctly Usually one primary will be the overall limitation re luminosity and the others will have to be lowered to produce the correct percentages of each..