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JVC HD-70HF96 Rules

1002 Views 22 Replies 11 Participants Last post by Auditor55, Dec 26, 2005

andy sullivan

Discussion Starter · Dec 23, 2005

I know that many here pay little attention to magazine reviews but they are out there and here is the latest from Sound & Vision Magazine on the new JVC HD-HF96. In short they say, the best multiburst resolution patterns ever seen, fully resolved 1080 sources & scaled lesser resolutions extremely well, average black level best seen yet, depth of black best seen on a RPTV this past year, one of few 1080p's that can actually resolve every line od a HD 1080i test pattern, minimal noise and no hint of false contouring. "It's hard to sweat the small stuff when an HDTV performs as well as the JVC HD-HF96. They should not deter anybody valuing PQ above all else".

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audiomixer

· #2 · Dec 23, 2005

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Originally Posted by andy sullivan
I know that many here pay little attention to magazine reviews but they are out there and here is the latest from Sound & Vision Magazine on the new JVC HD-HF96. In short they say, the best multiburst resolution patterns ever seen, fully resolved 1080 sources & scaled lesser resolutions extremely well, average black level best seen yet, depth of black best seen on a RPTV this past year, one of few 1080p's that can actually resolve every line od a HD 1080i test pattern, minimal noise and no hint of false contouring. "It's hard to sweat the small stuff when an HDTV performs as well as the JVC HD-HF96. They should not deter anybody valuing PQ above all else".

They also mentioned color uniformity problems in active picture...reddish corners and some yellow. So all is not perfect...LcOS I guess..and I have the SXRD.

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andy sullivan

Discussion Starter · #3 · Dec 23, 2005

It does certainly make you like the future of LCOS. The article also ripped the remote, which you can replace, and the TV's menue, which maybe they will address next year or even yet during this years production run. I do wonder how this review reflects on the remainder of the JCV 1080p lineup. I hope the JVC shows to be Sony's equal when it comes to reliability.

audiomixer

· #4 · Dec 23, 2005

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Originally Posted by andy sullivan
It does certainly make you like the future of LCOS. The article also ripped the remote, which you can replace, and the TV's menue, which maybe they will address next year or even yet during this years production run. I do wonder how this review reflects on the remainder of the JCV 1080p lineup. I hope the JVC shows to be Sony's equal when it comes to reliability.

I hope so, too. Competiton is good. I went for the Sony because of the adjustment options the XBR has over the JVC. The menu is pretty amazing! And I had a Toshiba CRT for 10 years that had adjustments to the picture that affected ALL of the inputs. I just could not live with that again...Each input on the Sony has its own adjustments. Nice feature!

Cameron

· #5 · Dec 23, 2005

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Originally Posted by andy sullivan
It does certainly make you like the future of LCOS. The article also ripped the remote, which you can replace, and the TV's menue, which maybe they will address next year or even yet during this years production run. I do wonder how this review reflects on the remainder of the JCV 1080p lineup. I hope the JVC shows to be Sony's equal when it comes to reliability.

I doubt that JVC will change their menus too much over the next year. They have had crap menus for a decade. I wish they would just go look at a SXRD to see its menu system. Clearly better. The remote isn't awful, but it isn't great either. Glad I have other remotes that can take its place. I would like to get a hold of some of the discreet codes though. I would like to be able to switch inputs a bit better.

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andy sullivan

Discussion Starter · #6 · Dec 23, 2005

I'm sure that JVC and Sony are looking closely at eachother regarding menus and the ability to input 1080p. It's also interseting to see people becoming more technology loyal in comparison to brand loyal. JVC has positioned itself just enough differently in the size portion of the market also. I do wonder how Sony will respond to the huge 70" price difference next year.

BillP

· #7 · Dec 23, 2005

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Originally Posted by andy sullivan
I'm sure that JVC and Sony are looking closely at eachother regarding menus and the ability to input 1080p. It's also interseting to see people becoming more technology loyal in comparison to brand loyal. JVC has positioned itself just enough differently in the size portion of the market also. I do wonder how Sony will respond to the huge 70" price difference next year.

I'm sure Sony will come out with a reasonably priced 70" SXRD (no need anymore to go with the $13000 Qualia). I'm not sure what you mean by technology loyal. New technologies are continually coming out. LCOS is hot right now, and in the near future, it will probably be supplanted by something even newer and better (?SED). Since each purchase should hopefully last many, many years, I doubt there'll be any technology loyalty since they will have changed so dramatically between purchases.

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thedeskE

· #8 · Dec 23, 2005

Promising review

link to the OPs ref

http://www.soundandvisionmag.com/art...rticle_id=1130

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jwv651

· #9 · Dec 23, 2005

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Originally Posted by BillP
I'm sure Sony will come out with a reasonably priced 70" SXRD (no need anymore to go with the $13000 Qualia). I'm not sure what you mean by technology loyal. New technologies are continually coming out. LCOS is hot right now, and in the near future, it will probably be supplanted by something even newer and better (?SED). Since each purchase should hopefully last many, many years, I doubt there'll be any technology loyalty since they will have changed so dramatically between purchases.

I agree I went from CRT to DLP to LCOS and who knows what's next.

BillP

· #10 · Dec 23, 2005

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I agree I went from CRT to DLP to LCOS and who knows what's next.

I have an old 35" analog tube TV, if you're interested.

jwv651

· #11 · Dec 23, 2005

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Originally Posted by BillP
I have an old 35" analog tube TV, if you're interested.

Already have one!

andy sullivan

Discussion Starter · #12 · Dec 23, 2005

Tech loyalty is out there, only not as unwavering as it used to be. Plasma folks can be very hard to sway from their love of gas. Not impossible but I've tried to expound on the virtues of LCOS, DLP, LCD RPTV. Don't even try to convince a plasmaite to switch to LCD flat panel.

BillP

· #13 · Dec 23, 2005

Yeah, there are a few plasma trolls here in the RP Forum. I think it's more that people feel the need to justify their own purchase to absolute strangers than any tech loyalty (leading to a lot of arguments).

thedeskE

· #14 · Dec 23, 2005

From my own experience with a first gen JVC, and a close look at the SXRD via close sales contacts local, I can see that we're all winners with the new stuff coming 2006.

I had my doubts coming from a loyal CRT attitude, but the future is bright.

I've learned that no brand rules the roost these days.

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palese

· #15 · Dec 24, 2005

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Originally Posted by andy sullivan
I know that many here pay little attention to magazine reviews but they are out there and here is the latest from Sound & Vision Magazine on the new JVC HD-HF96. In short they say, the best multiburst resolution patterns ever seen, fully resolved 1080 sources & scaled lesser resolutions extremely well, average black level best seen yet, depth of black best seen on a RPTV this past year, one of few 1080p's that can actually resolve every line od a HD 1080i test pattern, minimal noise and no hint of false contouring. "It's hard to sweat the small stuff when an HDTV performs as well as the JVC HD-HF96. They should not deter anybody valuing PQ above all else".

Sure after the set was calibrated.

andy sullivan

Discussion Starter · #16 · Dec 24, 2005

I doubt that this set was any more calibrated than any other set they reviewed.

darthrsg

· #17 · Dec 24, 2005

i love my older august 05 jvc 52z, i myself consider a sony a downgrade especially in the looks department. for the record i am not a $ony hater. i really like the A10's as well.

Auditor55

· #18 · Dec 24, 2005

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Originally Posted by thedeskE
From my own experience with a first gen JVC, and a close look at the SXRD via close sales contacts local, I can see that we're all winners with the new stuff coming 2006.

I had my doubts coming from a loyal CRT attitude, but the future is bright.

I've learned that no brand rules the roost these days.

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While improved, the LCOS sets from Sony and JVC black levels are still not as good as CRT.

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Auditor01

· #19 · Dec 24, 2005

Yep...it's a fact...no brand, and I will add: no technology ever rules the roost for long.

It's great to see that JVC has released an excellent product that will likely send Sony scrambling to make SXRD even better in the next go-round. In that war...my gut feel is that Sony will be the one to introduce the major advances, while JVC plays catch-up, perhaps advancing things a tiny bit further.

Makes no difference to me...if I was ready to buy, I'd get whatever's tops at the moment, and right now, it sounds as though it's the JVC from a PQ standpoint.

From a technology standpoint, I subscribe to two differing points of view. If my only concern was film-based content in a dedicated home theater environment, I would still tend to lean towards CRT (and spend the time and/or money to keep it calibrated). In my case, however, I have gone with front projection, as no RPTV will ever be able to compete with the total immersion of FPTV, especially when it comes to film.

If my RPTV was assigned to handle a wider variety of programming (or if I didn't have a perfectly controlled lighting environment), I would go with one of these new-fangled microdisplays. The black level gap is closing to a point where it's pretty much a non-issue for all but the most die hard "black level" purists. And outside of film-based material, if you're paying any serious attention to black levels you probably need a life!

Can you imagine...it's the Super Bowl in HD...the CRT is fired up, all the lights are turned down low, and you and your buddies, relaxed by the darkened environment, can't help but appreciate the rich, deep blacks of that CRT...hopefully, that's before you've had a few beers, else this story could lead down a seriously disturbing path

Anyway, sounds like JVC has a winner on it's hands. Though until I see one in person, my primary concern is the continued reports of SSE, which also has been an issue with SXRD. That bugs me a whole lot more than black levels!

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Cameron

· #20 · Dec 24, 2005

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While improved, the LCOS sets from Sony and JVC black levels are still not as good as CRT.

True. They are a lot closer though. They really kick butt on brightness though which is very nice in many cases.

What you really need is a sony G90 front projector with a really good 1080P processor, and a Stewart screen. I think you would be happy then.

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