I am the only one that has compared same system, input, feed etc on these two machines- The JVC HR-S7800U S-VHS to the Great Panny DMR- E80H DVD recorder. At XP speed the Panny wins. Panny at SP appears to be same PQ with the JVC.However IMHO if you could see what I have you might give the SP PQ contest to the JVC. I viewed the results AGAIN tonight and this JVC is outstanding. I bought it on Ebay 2 months ago for $170. Too bad tapes do not last as long as DVD. The E-80 is still King. If I could not afford the E-80, I would buy this JVC until I could and later input to the E-80. I also think the Fuji S-VHS tapes were a factor- they are the best IMHO. Postscript- The JVC at SP killed the Philips 985 DVDR at SP. I understand my late model March,2003 985 has the same optic engine as the new 75 and 80 Philips. I would bet the house on that.