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First of all–I did a search for this show going back ~1.5 years and did not find any thread for it. So, if I goofed up (and there already is a thread), please let me know and I will delete this posting.

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I was watching the 1963 movie "Cleopatra" (what an impressive production it was) last night. All through the movie, every time "Cleopatra" (Elizabeth Taylor) was shown in a close up, I kept having the feeling that she STRONGLY resembled somebody I had seen before. Then, BINGO, the "light" came on. IMO, she closely resembles Molly Ephraim–"Mandy" on the show. Have a look at the attached pictures. If Molly had a little eye makeup in this photo, I think the resemblance would be VERY striking. Have a look and see what you think.

And, BTW, I really miss Molly Ephraim since the show went from ABC to Fox. Her replacement (Molly McCook) is a decent actress. But, IMO she is just not as good as Molly Ephraim. What do you think?
 

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And, BTW, I really miss Molly Ephraim since the show went from ABC to Fox. Her replacement (Molly McCook) is a decent actress. But, IMO she is just not as good as Molly Ephraim. What do you think?
I agree with you on this, McCook is good, but the character just isn't the same.

Then again, I liked the actress that played the oldest daughter for the first season than the one who replaced her.
 

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I agree with you on this, McCook is good, but the character just isn't the same.

Then again, I liked the actress that played the oldest daughter for the first season than the one who replaced her.

You agree with me and I agree with you. I feel that in the first season of the show, they were firing on "all eight cylinders". Alexandra Krosney played "Kristen" the oldest daughter. She was only on the first season. From the second season onward, the character was portrayed by Amanda Fuller. She was "OK" as the character. But not as good as Krosney. It felt like the show was now firing on "seven cylinders". I have no idea why Krosney was removed from the show.


On another note (to make a pun), from my memory, there were three episodes where the three sisters were singing together. One was at the diner, another around a Christmas tree and the last in a church. I really liked them singing. I thought they had good talent in that department.
 

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I also agree about preferring the 2 original actresses over their replacements.

Just finished watching the final seasons of Orange is the New Black, and have to say Amanda Fuller's character portrayal is very good on that show though....
 

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In case anyone is still watching this.

‘Last Man Standing’: Tim Allen Comedy To End With Season 9 On Fox

 

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In case anyone is still watching this.

‘Last Man Standing’: Tim Allen Comedy To End With Season 9 On Fox
They ran out of daughters to replace and Kaitlyn Dever just decided that making movies was a better idea.
 

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That's too bad. It seemed like there was still gas left in the tank.

But better to go out while it's still good rather than drag on and on.
 

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Last Man Standing Twist: Final Season Will Kick Off With Time Jump


“Call Me Kat” and “Last Man Standing” will premiere back to back on Jan. 3.

 

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Last Man Standing Final Season Trailer: Mike Baxter Meets Tim 'The Tool Man' Taylor in Home Improvement Crossover


Last Man Standing is staging 2021’s most unlikely crossover, as Mike Baxter comes face to face with Tim Allen‘s former alter ego, Home Improvement‘s Tim “The Tool Man” Taylor.

Fox on Friday released the trailer for Last Man‘s ninth and final season, which features the aforementioned meeting of the half-minds. The Tool Time host appears in Mike’s kitchen wearing a vintage Binford Tools t-shirt and serves up one of his signature grunts. The crossover takes place in the Jan. 7 episode, titled “Dual Time,” when Vanessa hires a home improvement repairman who bears an uncanny resemblance to her husband.

The new footage also makes clear that Last Man is incorporating the coronavirus pandemic into its final episodes. Mike, Vanessa, Mandy and Kyle all appear on a Zoom call with socially distanced friends and relatives (including Kaitlyn Dever’s Eve), and Mike shows off his pandemic beard during one of his signature Outdoor Man vlogs.

Read on for the official Season 9 premiere synopsis, then scroll down for additional Season 9 intel…

In “Time Flies,” a series of time jumps finds Mike & Vanessa with two new grandchildren as well as Mandy and Kyle living with them. Mike, accidentally/on-purpose, gets involved when Vanessa and Mandy clash over Vanessa’s “helpfulness.” Meanwhile at Outdoor Man, Chuck desperately hopes its last call on Ed’s mixology happy hour.
Fox confirmed Last Man Standing‘s final season in October. “I’ve been one lucky dude to have been part of Last Man Standing,” Allen said in a statement. “I so appreciate the incredible support from our fans over this near decade of work. As we approach the ninth season, I just admire and feel grateful for all the hard work our wonderful cast and crew have done. We had all considered to end the show after last season, but together with Fox, we decided to add a year so we could produce a full season to create the gentle and fun goodbye. I’m looking forward to a memorable and hilarious final season.”

Last Man Standing Season 9 premieres on a special night, Sunday, Jan. 3 at 8:30/7:30c, before moving to its regular day and time — Thursdays at 9:30 pm — beginning Jan. 7.

‘Last Man Standing’: Home Improvement Crossover — Final Season Trailer | TVLine
 

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I'm going to miss this show, but have to say that crossover sounds like it's going to be fun.
 
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How ‘Last Man Standing’ Got Permission to Use Tim Taylor Character for ‘Home Improvement’ Crossover

It wasn’t easy, but showrunner Kevin Abbott tells TheWrap he was at least confident they’d able to land the actor

Fox’s “Last Man Standing” is going big in its final season, with an episode featuring Tim Allen in his leading role of Mike Baxter and reprising Tim “The Tool Man” Taylor, the iconic character he played on ABC’s “Home Improvement” for eight seasons from 1991-1999.

The bit will come in the second episode of “Last Man Standing’s” upcoming ninth season, when Vanessa hires a home improvement repairman who bears an uncanny resemblance to Mike, who is struggling with an idea for his Outdoor Man 10th Anniversary vlog. And the idea for this epic half-hour, which airs Jan. 7 on Fox, came about because the broadcast network wanted to kick off the sitcom’s final season with something flashy.

“We had already broken the first seven episodes and our intention was to have the ‘Time Flies’ [flash-forward] be the first episode. And Fox came to us and said, ‘We’d love it if you could come up with some big promotable event.’ And I always hate that, especially on this show, where we tell smaller stories about family interaction,” “Last Man Standing” showrunner Kevin Abbott told TheWrap. “Plus, it’s difficult to come up with some huge promotable event that happens in our little world.”


Abbott continued, “And so as I was bitching and moaning about it, my writers were actually thinking about it. And Jon Haller came back and said he’d been thinking about stunt casting and said, ‘You know, we’ve had almost all the names from “Home Improvement” on the show and the one we really haven’t had is Tim Taylor.’ And I went, ‘That is just brilliant. That is brilliant.'”

Abbott calls the idea one of those ones “where it’s like, how did we not think of this before?”

“It seems so obvious, so great and yet we didn’t think of it before. So we all got very excited about it,” he said, adding, that he “felt good that we’d be able to land the actor.”

And, of course, they did, but Allen was very particular about how he wanted his beloved “Home Improvement” character to appear on “Last Man Standing.”

“So the first hurdle you have to jump is to get Tim to sign off on it. I want to make sure that he wanted to play it — which he did, he fully embraced the idea, with the proviso that we would honor that character, not make fun of him or anything, which we would never do,” Abbott said. “I really liked ‘Home Improvement’ and Matt Williams and David McFadzean and Carmen Finestra, who created ‘Home Improvement,’ were really kind and generous in allowing us to use the character and certain iconic symbols from the show and bits. So we were going to bend over backward to not give them any reason to regret allowing us to do that.”

Though Abbott says his “first instinct” was to go negative (Tim Taylor’s “gotten divorced and he’s down on his luck and he’s now just a handyman”), he “got disabused of that notion pretty quickly.”

“I love working with Tim, so I say that kiddingly because it’s a very collaborative process,” he said. “We kept going at it and talking about it and talking about it until we got to a place where we thought this was funny and interesting. Tim was telling me it really kind of affected him because what that episode is about in terms of fear of moving on — and fear that you’re going to be less-than and you’re going to be losing — and when you’re in a spot where you love something, moving past it is difficult. And we’re in our final season, so a lot of this resonated with Tim. And it was really great. It was a fun episode to do.”

After getting the blessings of the “Home Improvement” creators and Allen, the “Last Man Standing” team still had to wait it out to see if Fox would be able to get permission from Disney (the company that holds the rights to “Home Improvement”) to use the Tim Taylor character for the episode, which is aptly titled “Dual Time.”

“It took a while. There are bigger legal hurdles than you would think in all of that. It was the day before the table read that I got permission to actually go forward with the episode. And that was only because I threatened, ‘I’m reading it anyway.’ So they finally agreed to it,” Abbott said, laughing.

Abbott and his writers know the ins and outs of Mike Baxter going into the ninth season of “Last Man Standing,” which aired its first six seasons on ABC before it was canceled and then revived at Fox, but they obviously weren’t familiar with writing Allen’s career-making role.

“Tim gave me one of the box sets of ‘Home Improvement’ so I watched a bunch of those to remind myself what the character was like and everything,” Abbott said. “And they’re different, so trying to make sure that we differentiate the characters was challenging. And Tim wanted to make certain that we were telling a story about Tim Taylor as well. That we weren’t just bringing in somebody to have in the moment and then move on, that there had to be a back story and a reality to that character as well. And it took a lot of discussions to land where we landed on everything, because he wanted to make certain that we did it right. That it sounded true to him that that’s what happened to Tim Taylor.”

So what did happen to Tim Taylor — who, last we saw on the “Home Improvement” series finale, was living in Detroit, Michigan with his family — and how did he make his way over to Colorado for this episode of “Last Man Standing”?

“I can’t remember how much stayed in after the edits, but Tim Taylor now works for Binford Tools,” Abbott said. “He’s a high muckety-muck in that company and he travels around doing quality control at the various Binford Tools. You may have noticed their stores on the corners [in ‘Last Man Standing’]. But Binford has franchised out a place now that has several locations and he was in town visiting the Denver store and checking them out. And he’d been told by a lot of people that there is a guy that does this vlog called ‘Outdoor Man’ that he looks exactly like. So he had to go see this guy, he had to go meet this guy. And boy, they do look alike.”

“Last Man Standing” airs its ninth and final season premiere this Sunday before moving to its regular Thursday time-slot next week. With a good chunk of the season already broken, Abbott knows how he wants to wrap things up — but is still in the process of crafting his ending.

“I do have an idea what the series finale is and I can tell you it’s Mike’s journey this year. A lot of times over the series we’ve had Mike as a huge force in other people’s journeys, that Mike is kind of this constant. This year, it’s about Mike Baxter and the pandemic has made him reassess things, reassessing where he wants his life to go moving forward and what does he do about ‘Outdoor Man.’ I’m already fiddling around with it, because things do change as we go forward, but I believe it’s going to give the audience a sense of closure and a sense of hope.”

Season 9 of “Last Man Standing” will premiere Sunday, Jan. 3 at 9:30/8:30c on Fox. The show will make its time-period premiere at 9:30/10:30c on Thursday, Jan. 7.

 

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I watched the premier episode of the ninth (and final) season. Was somewhat disappointed as the show did not have the same "feeling" as previous seasons. Mike seemed to have softened too much and Mandy became less comedic. This is my only sitcom and I hope it goes uphill from here.
 

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It hasn't been the same since Molly Ephraim ("Mandy") left and was replaced by Molly McCook. McCook is OK as an actress. But, to me, she comes across as a "normal" person trying to act silly. And, Krista Yu ("Jen") adds nothing to the show. She "overacts" IMO. Alexandra Krosney was, by far, the best "Kristen". I have no idea why she disappeared at the end of the first season. I find Nancy Travis ("Vanessa") to be simply OUTSTANDING. She is a "master" of both verbal, and physical comedy. Also-Christoph Sanders ("Kyle") and Hector Elizondo ("Ed") are great also.
 

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We watched the premier tonight, and it does feel a little different. I'm guessing a lot of that is due to them knowing that it's going to be the last season. The emphasis is supposed to be on Mike, and that shows. The other characters will be secondary, and the actors may have expressed some desire to stretch their characters out a bit, which might be allowable because of it being the end.

The time jump can help cover some of that. In Mandy's case, it's not totally unbelievable that a woman's character can change and mature a bit once she experiences and embraces motherhood. We missed, what, two years of maturation?

With Ephraim's portrayal, one could never be sure if all of her silliness was genuine, or just the pretense of a character that didn't care about serious or important matters, since she could skate through her life on her charm and looks. That added some depth to what looks like a shallow character on the surface. McCooks' felt more like a superficial imitation of Ephraim's, so maybe this season they've given her the green light to make the character more her own, using the cover of the time jump to explain the difference.

I do agree with Vidop, that the original actresses were better in the roles. But that may just be bias since they were first and I found both of them to be more likeable, as well.

Is Jen going to be part of the show this season?

Even with the changes, it's one of the few comedies worth watching, and we'll be sticking with it until the end.

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Just started that season after it was canceled and it just doesn't feel the same, a bit of a slog. The last time they switched actresses it was for the better, but this time.............yikes.
 

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Last Man Standing Boss Breaks Down the Big Home Improvement Crossover

Yes, you’re seeing double.

Tim Allen reprised his role as Home Improvement‘s Tim “The Tool Man” Taylor during Thursday’s Last Man Standing. In the episode, Vanessa hired the former Tool Time host (who was sporting a vintage Binford Tools t-shirt) to handle a series of home repairs. The half-hour concluded with a very meta conversation between Allen’s alter egos, which also alluded to the Fox sitcom’s fast-approaching series finale.

Below, showrunner Kevin Abbott discusses the unlikely crossover event (which paid homage to a late Home Improvement cast member) and reveals how Mike and Tim’s discussion will get the Outdoor Man boss thinking about his third act.

TVLINE | Let’s start at the beginning. When did the idea first come about to have Allen reprise his Home Improvement role?
We had already broken the first seven episodes when Fox, as they always do, asked, “Hey, is there some big event, or something grabby you can have as your premiere?” And I just hate those [episodes]. I tend to think of our show as a small show, you know? We tell small stories — so, by definition, something big and stunty really doesn’t happen on our show. It was [our writer] Jon Haller who said, “We’ve had a lot of the Home Improvement people on, and the only major character we haven’t had is Tim Taylor,” and I went, “That’s brilliant. You are going to start getting paid, sir.” [Laughs]

TVLINE | Once the idea was pitched, was it as simple as writing the episode? Or did you have to get permission to use the Tim Taylor character?
There were some legal issues to jump through, believe it or not. I thought, well, this will be easy because I know Tim [will be into it], but we had to jump through some hoops. But [Home Improvement creators] Matt Williams, David McFadzean and Carmen Finestra were quite kind and very generous, and they allowed us to use the character and some of the bits, and we had a great time.

TVLINE | How protective was Allen of the Home Improvement legacy?

I would say very protective. I made him the promise going in that we would respect it. I actually loved Home Improvement, so I didn’t want to do anything that would in any way disparage that character and that franchise, I didn’t want to mock it in any way, shape or form. I wanted to be careful. Maybe they do something with [the ABC sitcom] in the future, a reboot or something, I don’t know, so I didn’t want to trap them in anything either. And Tim and I had several long discussions about where Tim Taylor would have wound up at this point in time. We changed the storyline a couple times in order to try to arrive at a place that we all felt very good about.

TVLINE | The episode featured a scene that paid tribute to Tim Taylor’s longtime neighbor, Wilson, and his portrayer, the late Earl Hindman. Did Allen offer his input?
He wanted to make certain that his affection for the Wilson character and Earl was in there and that it was honest. It was interesting, because the whole episode moved Tim. He was affected by it. He said to me, “You captured some of the things that we’re all going through, which is looking at our run here, moving on, and recognizing how good things have been…” I think he brought a lot of personal emotion [to the episode], and it was really quite powerful.

TVLINE | A lot of what Allen said to you about the episode comes through in that last exchange between Mike and Tim. Does that conversation propel Mike to start thinking about his retirement?
Yes, that’s exactly what propels him. He’s at that stage and wondering: What should he do next? Where will his life go next? Is his life on the track that he wants it to be on? And the fear when you’ve done well in life of trying something new, or taking it in a different direction and maybe not succeeding. We found it to be rich territory that we’re going to continue to explore this season.

TVLINE | Soon enough, you’ll be writing Last Man‘s series finale. Now that Tim Taylor exists in the Last Man Universe, does that rule out a final scene that mirrors Newhart, where Tim wakes up next to Patricia Richardson’s Jill Taylor again after a long slumber?
[Laughs] We talked about a couple of scenarios, but I don’t know. I can’t make up my mind whether I want to go out kind of crazy or more heartfelt, but we’ll figure it out.

 

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Haven't seen the second episode so I'm just commenting on the season premiere but my household all thought it was kind of odd and flat. We couldn't put our finger on just what was wrong but it wasn't the caliber of show we've come to expect. Here's hoping it gets better from here on :)
 
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