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LCD or Plasma?

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I am about to decide between the Samsung LN46B750 LCD and the Panasonic TC-P50V10 Plasma.


When I compare LCD's and Plasma's in stores, LCD's always seem to have the more vibrant/glossy/bright/day-glo/wet-looking (however one chooses to describe them) colors, which I like. LCD colors may not be as accurate as the colors on a Plasma, but to my eyes their vibrancy/gloss is more appealing and beautiful, and to me, that trumps accuracy.

1. Is that primarily why many people prefer LCD's over Plasma's, and does that make me an LCD guy?


What gives me pause is that every critical review I have ever read states that, technically, Plasma's have the superior picture - which makes me wonder:

2. Can a Plasma be adjusted so its colors are as vibrant/glossy as an LCD, or are LCD's superior in this respect even post-adjustment?


3. Which size is probably my best bet from 8', the 46" Sammy or the 50" Pan?


Many thanks for your time and input.
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Plasma!


Plasmas do have a superior picture. Don't go by what you see in the store since those TVs will typically be set to torch mode and often viewing is under super bright flourescent lighting. The Panasonic plasma seems to be a better choice than the Samsung LCD and 50" is a good size.
If the LCD troll is awake your going to get a "copy and paste" list of why plasma displays are the devil. Don't be afraid, he bought one five years ago and put it in a bright room and hasn't stopped crying since.



8' viewing distance is 50" display or bigger, if you want to go by thx viewing distance stards.
http://myhometheater.homestead.com/v...alculator.html



Bright lights are bad for plasmas. It is night and day between seeing plasmas at best buy and seeing one at home with proper settings.
I'd say that it depends on your viewing environment. Even in the "dimmed" sections of most retail stores, the lighting is brighter than the average home (it just looks dimmed relative to the ultra-bright lighting in the rest of the store).


In such lighting, the LCD's definitely look better than the plasmas. Of course most of the TVs are set in a "torch" mode that make the LCD's almost disturbingly bright, but even if you properly adjust the sets, under the lights, the LCD's excel in low black levels and greater color vibrancy.


In a darkened room, the plasmas are actually going to look "blacker" and more vibrant than the LCDs. People who are very serious about their displays prefer a darkened viewing environment, so the population on this board tends to lean plasma (although you posted in the LCD section, so maybe it will be more evenly split). They'll say plasmas are "fine" (translation: acceptable) during the day in bright lighting conditions, but an LCD would do better. No question that in a darkened room, plasmas are better.


Do you watch TV at night with all the lights on? If so, then what you see in the "dimmed" section of Best Buy is close to what you'll see at home and you ought to go with the LCD. If you like to dim the lights at home, or obviously if you're looking at a dedicated "home theater" room, go with the plasma.


You've zeroed in on two sets that are at the top of their respective technologies. It really depends on how you're going to use it.
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Originally Posted by cinderbob /forum/post/16994137


I am about to decide between the Samsung LN46B750 LCD and the Panasonic TC-P50V10 Plasma.


When I compare LCD's and Plasma's in stores, LCD's always seem to have the more vibrant/glossy/bright/day-glo/wet-looking (however one chooses to describe them) colors, which I like. LCD colors may not be as accurate as the colors on a Plasma, but to my eyes their vibrancy/gloss is more appealing and beautiful, and to me, that trumps accuracy.

1. Is that primarily why many people prefer LCD's over Plasma's, and does that make me an LCD guy?


What gives me pause is that every critical review I have ever read states that, technically, Plasma's have the superior picture - which makes me wonder:

2. Can a Plasma be adjusted so its colors are as vibrant/glossy as an LCD, or are LCD's superior in this respect even post-adjustment?


3. Which size is probably my best bet from 8', the 46" Sammy or the 50" Pan?


Many thanks for your time and input.

As one that has owned both plasma and LCD (and love both) I tend to sway a bit more towards LCD.

I'am actually thinking about getting the new Panasonic S1 or V10 65 incher, but only because there are no 65" LCD's that are as affordable as a 65" Panny plasma.

If getting the biggest screen size was not a concern I would stick with LCD and Samsungs are the best of LCD (in my opinion).


Do go with a 50" size though what ever you get, a 46" is going to be to small and its going the shrink real fast.


Cheers

Davyo
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Cinderbob, my seating distance from the TV is similar to yours. As for size, I suggest using a tape measure in your home to visualize just how big these sets will be in your own viewing environment. Before doing this I’d planned on purchasing a 52” but after measuring I realized it would be too big for the room. TVs like furniture “grow” between showrooms and your home. Davyo is one of the most knowledgeable posters on AVS forums, but in the end size - like plasma vs LCD - is a personal choice. I went with a 46” Samsung LCD and have not regretted the decision.
After debating for months on LCD vs plasma, I opted for LCD. I went with the new LG LED local dimming back lit. I'm glad I did. Several factors I won't go into, but suffice it to say I'm elated with my choice.
I use to b an lcd, guy because I rute for the underdog. competition is good, drives prices down. so competition from lcd technology, is good! however plasma, has always been ahead as far as picture goes. But lcd, made gamer's happy! because of the low burn-in percentage. I have seen some bad ass lcd's lately! But the panasonic, to get on topic! is beating every tv out except the kuro, price wise, its only cheap because panasonic, lost there name a couple years back! west69, to this day is scared by there old plasma's, which weren't that bad, compared to what was out! today cnet, the best tv review, website, in are lifetime has said the panasonic g10, is the best of 09,



I like every brand to! but panasonic has the best tv! best bang for your buck x15. there basically, keeping prices affordable with out sacrificing shhit quality wise during these hardtimes my heart goes out to there company for that. They could charge you! we all know this but they aren't because there good maybe the best.


to me bang for buck they are.
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Originally Posted by scrope /forum/post/16995503


Davyo is one of the most knowledgeable posters on AVS forums, but in the end size - like plasma vs LCD - is a personal choice. I went with a 46 Samsung LCD and have not regretted the decision.

Hey Scrope, thank you for the kind words,,,,,, and yes,,,, one should alway's get the size of panel that works best for them, I just always like to warn people that they could suffer from the same sickness I have, I always regret not getting the bigger size,,,,, its a sickness and professional help is being sought.


Cheers

Davyo

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Originally Posted by cinderbob /forum/post/16994137


LCD colors may not be as accurate as the colors on a Plasma, but to my eyes their vibrancy/gloss is more appealing and beautiful, and to me, that trumps accuracy.

I thought the exact same thing.

for me, glossy LCD>Plasma>matte LCD

matte screen reminds me of my old laptop I had in the late 90's.

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Several factors I won't go into

Then ur choice is meaningless. Since we don't know what the factors are, we can't use the information. For all we know yr ga-ga for chrome trims.
The original post told the story. After comparing sets the op kept coming back to the vibrant color of LCD. This is probably the right choice for his need.


One thing that people often seek is an accurate picture. Taking a good quality plasma set and having an ISF calibration done will give you as accurate a picture as you'll get in a home environment.


The ironic thing is that many people do not like the resulting picture. Reading the threads on the new Panasonics that offer THX mode shows that most seem to be finding that "accurate" moce too dim. Now the THX mode is not a full ISF calibration, but is more accurate than the typical modes offered on sets.


So, accurate may seem desirable until you actually see it. After that, bright crisp images usually win out. They seem to be as LCD sets are more expensive but outselling plasmas.


When you're spending your money your eyes are the only ones that need to be pleased. Whichever technology provides that is for you.


LCD cannot compete with the larger screen plasmas - 58"+. Here screen size will more than make up for the bright crisp LCD image, making that the only real game in town for true "big screen" tv viewing.
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Lcd's come in all sizes! the biggest is sharps 100inch I believe.

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Lcd's come in all sizes! the biggest is sharps 100inch I believe.

Technically correct, but realistically price precludes them from consideration, except for NBA players.
I own both LCD and plasma, both look good. With that in mind I always recommend a Panny plasma over an LCD. Two issues not resolved on LCD sets is motion and viewing angle. LCDs look great straight on, but sit as you would in a normal room and only 1 or 2 people actually see a great picture, the rest get varying degrees of color shift and washed out images. And regardless of what the hype is 120hz and 240hz is just a cover up for a major problem with LCD displays, that is how they display things in motion, like a football game.


I can't find too much to fault plasma, true there is some IR, more at first, but it's gone in a short time and as the set ages it becomes very unnoticeable. When you add the fact that plasma is more affordable, plasma is the way to go at the moment.
TV technology - plasma or LCD - should not be deciding factor when buying modern flat panel TV.


Boky

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TV technology – plasma or LCD – should not be deciding factor when buying modern flat panel TV.


Boky

I must have read your post 6 or 7 times and I still could not make sense of it, or understand what your tring to say TV technology – plasma or LCD – should not be deciding factor when buying modern flat panel TV,,,,, Huh ????


Cheers

Davyo
Got an XBR LCD and a Kuro. Definitely prefer the Kuro.
Plasma likes to make buzzing noises, not produce correct whites, burn in from video games, and the half life kills the picture quality sometimes too early. Things I can't deal with.
Viewing distance rule of thumb...1.5 - 2 times your screen size. Plasma or LCD, well there are literally only about 200 hundred threads and 10,000 post that cover it over and over and over. Not only is not hard to find opinions on this subject...it's damn near impossible to avoid. So by all means let's have another plasma vs LCD thread.
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