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Am I the only one who hopes 3D doesn't catch on?
 

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Look what I found poking around the web!
http://www.nabanet.com/nabaweb/docum...P1_PFannon.pdf


"As 3D Moves to the Home

Early Adopters Will Demand Premium Product"


Verrry interesting, though not unexpected

Interesting, and this document is the first time I have seen two channels of 1080p24 video mentioned for the Panasonic 3D method. In previous articles they talked about 2 channels of 1080i60 video.
 

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How can this updated spec be for 1080p24 and 1080i30 only? If they're updating the specs they need 1080p50 and 1080p60 if they're going to be competing with broadcast HD. Otherwise Blu-ray will be worse than broadcast HD spec-wise.
 

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How can this updated spec be for 1080p24 and 1080i30 only? If they're updating the specs they need 1080p50 and 1080p60 if they're going to be competing with broadcast HD. Otherwise Blu-ray will be worse than broadcast HD spec-wise.

Aren't BD's in the UK 1080x24P?


For the 120V power countries, it's 60i (HD video). For 220V countries it would be 50i
 

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Aren't BD's in the UK 1080x24P?


For the 120Hz power countries, it's 60i (HD video). For 220 Hz countries it would be 50i

Unlike in the USA, Blu-ray titles in the Europe can use any of the available Blu-ray resolutions and frame rates that are in the current spec. 24p, 50i, 60i, 50p and 60p (the not full HD at the later two), and European players will be able to play them back cos all TVs are compatible with them too.
 

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Unlike in the USA, Blu-ray titles in the Europe can use any of the available Blu-ray resolutions and frame rates that are in the current spec. 24p, 50i, 60i, 50p and 60p (the not full HD at the later two), and European players will be able to play them back cos all TVs are compatible with them too.

There are BD's in Europe that are mastered at 1280x720x50P?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blu-ray_Disc
 

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Am I the only one who hopes 3D doesn't catch on?

No!


If 3D becomes the norm, we will end with 2 versions of the same movie, 2D and 3D, on the same disk at half bitrate.
 

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No!


If 3D becomes the norm, we will end with 2 versions of the same movie, 2D and 3D, on the same disk at half bitrate.

And why would they do that?


Something wrong with a 3D SKU and a 2D SKU for a BD movie?


They have 2 SKU's for DVD don't they?
 

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And why would they do that?


Something wrong with a 3D SKU and a 2D SKU for a BD movie?


They have 2 SKU's for DVD don't they?

I hope that you'll be right, but so far, look at BDs like "Journey To The Center Of The Earth". This one had 2 versions on the same disk, and it looked soft.
 

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I hope that you'll be right, but so far, look at BDs like "Journey To The Center Of The Earth". This one had 2 versions on the same disk, and it looked soft.

True stereoscopic 3D has a different storage requirement than the old anaglyph 3D method currently used for 3D.
 

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I hope that you'll be right, but so far, look at BDs like "Journey To The Center Of The Earth". This one had 2 versions on the same disk, and it looked soft.

It was filmed using digital camera's and i think any perceived softness was either because Warner filtered it slightly or because thats how it was shot and is supposed to look but it was nothing to do with disc capacity and storage issues.


That movie was short and could easily fit on a BD-25.
 

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How can this updated spec be for 1080p24 and 1080i30 only? If they're updating the specs they need 1080p50 and 1080p60 if they're going to be competing with broadcast HD. Otherwise Blu-ray will be worse than broadcast HD spec-wise.

movies that are recorded on film have a rate of 23.97 fps and its rounded up to 24. I am hoping they will do this to try and keep with the original film so it has that cinematic quality to it. The only problem I see is that they would have to also include a 60p capability to cover TV shows and some movies that are recorded in video at that speed.
 

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movies that are recorded on film have a rate of 23.97 fps and its rounded up to 24. I am hoping they will do this to try and keep with the original film so it has that cinematic quality to it. The only problem I see is that they would have to also include a 60p capability to cover TV shows and some movies that are recorded in video at that speed.

The link shows two frame rates:


24P for movies


60i for video


Where is the need for 60P? That would overwhelm BD's storage capacity for 3D content.
 

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If 3D becomes the norm, we will end with 2 versions of the same movie, 2D and 3D, on the same disk at half bitrate.

Not true. With H.264 MVC, the stream for one eye is used for the 2D presentation, and can be decoded by any H.264 decoder.
 
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