Yes, I still "archive" things to vhs only when the DVD is not available. I seriously got into home theater a little before DVD came into existence, and laserdisc was too early for me, so here I sit. I don't own a pvr so I can't time shift or burn things to CD or DVD yet..... ( I did look at the DVD burners today)
BTW I did discover that Le Mans was released on laserdisc twice, in the early eighties then in the early ninties (WS). I'm hoping that maybe I can find a copy of the WS version then hook myself up with a LD player.
Kedelbach, great shot on the course! Got an ace years ago, still have the ball and everything!
"In Car 956"? I'll have to find that one! I watched Grand Prix once and I've seen Driven once, no plans to watch either again. Grand Prix is alright, the movie isn't about racing, and Le Mans is about the race, summed up into one line:
"I want Porsche to win Le Mans."
I'm hoping someone will give the loving treatment given to the original Gone in 60 Seconds, which IMHO is WAY over rated, to Le Mans.
Ahh.....anamorphic, DTS/DD sound, the roar of the engines.......
I'm not sure if you've seen it or not but there is a release of the original Gone in 60 seconds with DTS sound and a handful of extras. It should be fairly cheap too. I think I got it a Best Buy a while back for 13-14 bucks.
FWIW, I'd like to find a copy of LeMan's on LD and this In Car 956 sounds pretty interesting...
Can't remember where I got my copy, but I know I didn't pay $39.95!
Also lucked out on Rendezvous and got a copy from my brother.
Yeah I skipped Driven after a huge thumbs down from dear old dad, Grand Prix I like cause its 70mm, has many racing greats in it, and 66-67 were the pinnacle of F1 racing IMO (no sponsors, no aerodynamics, no seatbelts, crappy tires, ~400hp...)
I agree with you 100% on LeMans.
BTW - Amazon has a great deal on Grand Prix and Lemans:
Yeah, I'd have to agree that racing isn't what it used to be....
Today's drivers wouldn't even consider doing what race car drivers did in times past. "Oooh it's too fast"
If I want to watch a movie about racing I watch Le Mans, to me Grand Prix is a soap opera set to a background of racing, just like Driven. If I wanted to watch a movie about who is sleeping with who I would watch Sex in the City or something like it.
I would love to get a pre-recorded tape of Le Mans, but no one sells the WS version
Have you read A French Kiss with Death? I haven't yet but I probably will.
I too have a dvd wish list with "Le Mans" at the top.
When I was a kid, I went to a car show where they had a rather tatty 917 on display. The owner got a few of us kids together, and started it up for us.
I have _never_ felt such a pure expression of unleashed fury in my life. I've since heard that the BRM at full chat approached it...
Another tape that I am close to wearing out is "A High Wind in Jamaica". I've raced on tall ships just because of that movie. (Being kidnapped by pirates, (Emily thinks "Pilots"; she may be right...), is just not all that possible these days...)
I also have the Floyd tape; I'm of mixed minds about it, even after repeated viewings. But Nick Mason is the real thing: he actually raced his 250GTO.
Then there are the racing movies that I loathed- "Redline 7000" comes to mind, as well as "A Man and a Woman". Soap and racing just don't mix. As the owner of the rather tatty 917 referenced above apparently believed...
pf - thanks for reminding me about French Kiss - Just ordered a used copy from Amazon
APG - check out Nick Mason's book "Into the Red". The UK version comes with a CD with 20 clips of great auto sound clips. One of them is a 1953 BRM V16 - listened to it last night.... WOW. What music! Others include Maser 250F, 250GTO, D-Type, etc. All of which Mason owns or owned I believe.
The PC game Grand Prix Legends lets you drive the loony '67 BRM H16 (two stacked flat 8s). You can download mp3s of the cars to replace the adequate but nothing-spectacular sounds that come with the game:
Mason let his wife Annette race his McLaren F1 GTR up the driveway at the '00 Festival of Speed. He drove the 512S & 250GTO. Nice! If you like these cars (sounds like you do!) do yourself a huge favor and get over to the UK for the FOS. I was there in '00 with my father and brother and will never forget it. At least as good as the Monterey Historics.
Stay at the Buncton Manor Farm, a 15th century moated farmhouse now a B&B. 11th century church in the field behind, only $150/night, including a spectacular English breakfast. About 45 minute drive through unbelievably scenic English countryside. On our way there one morning we got passed by a replica Ferrari P4 and 3 E-Type Jags in formation. Call Chris and Nancy at (01903) 812736
Thank you for all that _wonderful_ information. Yes, I do like these cars, but I'm not in that league. I do have a (now) tatty '61 250GTE that I finished restoration(ahem years ago...) on and showed for a while, but I could never get up the nerve to actually take it on course during the Monterey historics.
Amazon UK does list "Into the Red" as in print; I'm going to have to get a relative pick up and ship me a copy.
My buddies car was a Le Mans and I had a Plymouth Belvidere, don't laugh that big bug could do 111 floored! 160 M.P.H. as a passenger while the special SUN Speedometer/Tachommeter read 160 M.P.H.. Watching the gasoline tank needle go down 1/4, good old 1967 Gran Turismo Omalagata with a 3..2 Barrel carb set up.
Cheers to you!! Hey if it was perfect you'd be afraid to drive it! So much character, class, and that V12.... I love Ferraris - if the 308GTBsi were a little more curvaceous it'd be at the top of my list... but then it'd likely be priced out of my range...
For "Most Titillating Sheetmetal" honors I have to put the E-type roadster #1 - my dad restored a '63 and I still harbor resentments over its sale (before I was old enough o drive it )
Hey if you ever feel the need to "upgrade" your GTE consider these:
You're welcome for the info - big thanks go to my father for digging up the little tidbits that make pilgrimages to Goodwood, Monterey, and the NÃ¼rburgring all the more special... plan ahead and its cheaper than you might think.
1 round trip ticket to Dusseldorf: $300
3 days BMW rental: $60/day
3 nights stay at DÃ¶ttinger HÃ¶he Hotel: $450
10 lap tickets at the Ring: $100
In car video of you sawing the wheel through the Karussel, experiencing weightlessness over Flugplatz, and dropping two wheels off through BrÃ¼nnchen..... PRICELESS
My 250GTE is more like the second (blue) car; no hood strip, no fog lights, (The ones on that car are aftermarket, if you look very closely at the grill surround, you can see where the factory lights would be mounted.), and small trim rings on the headlights.
On my car, the side vents are chromed. At SN 2241GT, I seem to have the 37th one made. The dash is similar to the early GTs- painted in black crinkle-finish, with ancilliary gauges mounted lower. The later versions moved them up to make space for the optional (shudder) air conditioning.
The original color on my car was a darker blue metallic, but the color is now quite similar to the first car- a very light blue metallic.
The story of the rebodied Ferraris is quite interesting, it started with a Swiss firm making mock 250GTOs on the 250GTE frame. The company did such a good job, that at least one car was passed off as the real thing. Needless to say, Ferrari was not amused.
The owner of the company was murdered, and his stock of cars disappeared. Other companies have sprung up over the years to make mock Ferraris. Most of them have failed, but _none_ of them have made the foolish mistake of trying to make another GTO.
(The California Spyder that went flying in "Ferris Bueller" was a poor American V8 repro.)
At times, I have looked into moving up to something like a 365GT or a 400i, but I have resisted. There is something purer about the Colombo 3L V12 series of cars. I wouldn't mind a 250 Lusso...
Just before I bought the Ferrari, I had a Citroen SM. I nearly bought an XKE instead. The XKE was going for $3500. I paid $5k for the SM; it was in _much_ better condition. (I could have gotten a 250GTE for about the same amount of money.) Then the car market went crazy. I sold the SM for $6500 and bought the GTE for $12K.
Ah, to be young again, with a freshly restored Ferrari... (BTW, girls weren't the _least_ bit interested in 18 year old Ferrari coupes...)
Sounds like you have fun with your cars... hell anybody who buys a Citroen has to have a sense of humor
Good luck with your 250!
I heard somewhere that the rule of thumb for Ferrari engines is figure $1500 per cylinder to have it rebuilt...
In early May I was at Summit Point Raceway in WV with my Taurus SHO club (don't laugh, they can actually hustle around the track pretty good! One fearless friend put a supercharger on for over 400 hp at the [front] wheels. Scary!).
A father/son team that day was pounding their 400i (auto trans) all day long. I think they had the biggest grins of anybody there - then they drove their 20 year old F-car home... gotta love it!
Last night watched the first half of Grand Prix for the first time through my XW 15 projector... wow great racing footage. Really hard to appreciate all the widescreen action on a 27" TV....
Sure hot, teenage, brainless girls may not be impressed with a classic Ferrari, but I know plenty of sophisticated, sexy ladies who would turn into butter at the sound of that V12!
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