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Levinson 40 and Logic 7

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adidadi

Discussion Starter · Apr 29, 2003

The old thread got sidetracked and was not easy to resurrect, so I am starting a new post. I have been told that the Levinson 40 shouldhave Logic 7 by the end of the year. Maybe because the absorption of Proceed gave the greenlight for this. That is my little offering to this thread.

In return, can users or auditioners please comment on latest impressions or comparisons. Is this thing worth the extra money?? Will an 861 do the same for music and 2 channel.

I am hoping this thing is pretty much the same as having a 32 with 30.6. I would be using a Sony 200 disc ES as transport. I doubt there are big differences as transports. However, will this be the absolute max for 2 channel in the afore mentioned set up.

Please detail your overall impression of having lived with it. Is it worth the big bucks after a while. Thanks.

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Murat

· #2 · Apr 29, 2003

I've been using the 40 for about 3 weeks mostly setting it up, burning in and just learning about its capabilities. It is very expensive and for most its simply not worth it. But when you get used to it, 40 is very user friendly and sounds great with every type of input. "Sound profiles" is a very big plus and its the main reason to own a 40, IMO.

I didn't get the chance to hear the Logic 7 but 40's Stereo Surround sounds great when listening stereo in multi-channel. I also installed the SACD card and this is also awesome. If you can afford, go for it. IMHO 40 is the best A/V system you can own.

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noah katz

· #3 · Apr 29, 2003

"I have been told that the Levinson 40 shouldhave Logic 7 by the end of the year."

Logic 7 belongs to Lexicon, which I believe is now under the Harman umbrella. Is Levinson also?

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adidadi

Discussion Starter · #4 · Apr 29, 2003

Yes, it is under Harmon. Murat, thanks for the insight, I appreciate all opinions.

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Thomas James

· #5 · May 2, 2003

Madrigal Audio Laboratories produce Levinson, Revel, Audio Access and what used to be called Proceed and has been part of the Harman group for some time. Lexicon is also in the Harman group. Madrigal and Lexicon were grouped together last year as Harman Specialty Products sharing the same top management people. Logic 7 was not included in the No.40 originally because Lexicon did not want it to be included in the Proceed AVP2 and if Madrigal could not include it in both the No.40 and AVP2 they did not want to use it in the No.40 only. Now that Madrigal and Lexicon are grouped together they must be playing nice now.together

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sfogg

· #6 · May 2, 2003

"Now that Madrigal and Lexicon are grouped together they must be playing nice now.together"

Or the Madrigal people just decided to put it in the #40 and not in the AVP2. As far as Lexicon was concerned L7 in the #40 was a done deal. Madrigal is who pulled it because they wanted to keep the software the same between the #40 and the AVP2. Lexicon had licensed L7 just for the #40.

Shawn

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sdurani

· #7 · May 2, 2003

Shawn,
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Or the Madrigal people just decided to put it in the #40 and not in the AVP2.

Seems more likely that Madrigal would arrive at this decidion, now that the Proceed line is being phased out.

Sanj

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Glade

· #8 · May 2, 2003

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Originally posted by sdurani
Shawn, Seems more likely that Madrigal would arrive at this decidion, now that the Proceed line is being phased out.

Based on what I've heard, only the Proceed name and certain products are being phased out. The AVP2 (along with the HPA2/3) are to be manufactured under the Mark Levinson brand with new, more substantial housings to match the other ML products. This will likely result in an increase in the price of the former Proceed products.

Since the No 40 and AVP2 will be sister ML products, I would anticipate that ML would be even more likely to keep the software the same, including Logic 7 if it is to be offered.

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twothbeave

· #9 · May 3, 2003

I've had my 40 for 5 mons now. I have an 861 in my 2 channel system. Had a Theta CII before the 861 with circle surround. Have an MC12 in my secondary theater setup. My 2 cents....Give me 2 channel. Using the synthetic effects in any one of these setups to me is/was less satisfying to me then the real thing. Which is probably why I have a pure 2 channel system-that's tube and electrostatic-use the 861 pretty much as just volume control. It will probably be sold as I will move to a VTL 7.5 as my line source. Then on to the Sigmund Amps-the new king of amplifiers. Tubes without the fuss, truly the panacea of HiFI.

Regards,

Edward

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adidadi

Discussion Starter · #10 · May 5, 2003

Twothebeave,

Do you prefer your 861 for d/a conversion and pre-amp over the Levinson 40? Or does the Levinson 40 do everything better??

Thanks.

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twothbeave

· #11 · May 6, 2003

He there Adidadi (I like to say that, it reminds me of Dougie Fresh)

I think the 40 to me sounds better. I don't have a separate DAC, and have never had anything like a #32 in the setup, so hard to compare there. I know a few who have heard both. Some say it's equal, other's say no. To me it's up to the task. The 861 is very good, but someday, I would like to try it in my setup with 192 cards. Then we might have a sonic battle on our hands. I really thought the Theta Casa II with superior DACs was almost equal. So as far as sonic output, I'm sure the extreme DACS are pretty darn awesome as well. I really love the 40, not only cause its sounds fantastic, but also because it is a dream to setup and mod the sound, and because it's cool to look at. In the electronics world, I'd have to say it's a Ferrari or Lambo-actually it's probably the Bugatti Veyron of processors. These days, there are things that perform almost as well, but there's something to be said for cache'. How's that for an answer. I guess I would say I love the 861 sonically, so that's why it resides now in the 2 channel room. But on that same account, I'd really like to replace it with a VTL 7.5, with the dCS trio as a source, tubes, tubes, tubes.

Regards,

Edward

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