[gadgtfreek]

Should noise reduction and tru motion be on?

Turn NR off. Use ISF mode as described above. Try Contrast 80, Brightness, 50 and OLED Light 45, with the Trumotion settings. Let us know what you think.

 

[BRES86]

Ok.... all done. Ill check this out and pay close attention to it and update later. Thanks for all the help

 

[macmane]

Should noise reduction and tru motion be on?

Turn NR off. Use ISF mode as described above. Try Contrast 80, Brightness, 50 and OLED Light 45, with the Trumotion settings. Let us know what you think.

NR on every single one of these sets I've had including the 9600 always has a flicker when displayed in dark areas for some reason. Even when using Disney wow black test it flickers with NR off but set to low it goes away I don't knw why

 

[gadgtfreek]

NR on every single one of these sets I've had including the 9600 always has a flicker when displayed in dark areas for some reason. Even when using Disney wow black test it flickers with NR off but set to low it goes away I don't knw why

Ive used the WOW advanced black level setting and AVS 709, and I have seen what you describe. its like it a refresh every few seconds. Very odd. I have not noticed it in regular content.

 

[macmane]

NR on every single one of these sets I've had including the 9600 always has a flicker when displayed in dark areas for some reason. Even when using Disney wow black test it flickers with NR off but set to low it goes away I don't knw why

Ive used the WOW advanced black level setting and AVS 709, and I have seen what you describe. its like it a refresh every few seconds. Very odd. I have not noticed it in regular content.

Exactly. I don't knw how to eliminate it unless I turn NR to low but I don't see it when watching blu Ray but regular TV or Netflix it flickers with it off which sucks lol

 

[gadgtfreek]

Thats odd. I guess I have not noticed on Dish Network.

 

[Jh1123]

Ok... so i have had my ef9500 for a few days now and the picture is amazing except for this judder/blurry issues im having when people or objects are in motion. I have my picture setting on the vivid selection. Anything else i can do to fix this issue??? I really wanna like this tv but this is getting to the point to where i am getting headaches

Are you running the .75 firmware (found in the "about" section of the TV's menu)? It eliminates the judder. Stay away from turning on Tru Motion.

 

[gadgtfreek]

Are you running the .75 firmware (found in the "about" section of the TV's menu)? It eliminates the judder. Stay away from turning on Tru Motion.

Opinion!

People act like it is broken when it is not. Deblur 10 gives you full a 600 lines of motion rez, which is what you want, especially if you see blur. Its obvious to me, just like the Sony XBR was with motion flow off. Opinion: 300 lines of motion rez sucks.

 

[macmane]

Are you running the .75 firmware (found in the "about" section of the TV's menu)? It eliminates the judder. Stay away from turning on Tru Motion.

Opinion!

People act like it is broken when it is not. Deblur 10 gives you full a 600 lines of motion rez, which is what you want, especially if you see blur. Its obvious to me, just like the Sony XBR was with motion flow off. Opinion: 300 lines of motion rez sucks.

I've always had real cinema and tru motion off but imma try tru motion on at your suggested settings and see for myself. I've gotten kinda used to all of it off so this shall be interesting lol but quick question do u have real cinema off with tru motion on?

 

[wrxlvr]

My 65" is scheduled to arrive Friday. Working from home so I can be there for delivery.

 

[Jh1123]

Opinion!

People act like it is broken when it is not. Deblur 10 gives you full a 600 lines of motion rez, which is what you want, especially if you see blur. Its obvious to me, just like the Sony XBR was with motion flow off. Opinion: 300 lines of motion rez sucks.

I ran the Spears/Munsil motion tests withe Tru Motion enabled. The pattern literally broke up and caused unnatural flicker. It absolutely smooths it out, but even at the lowest setting was clearly glitching.

 

[Jh1123]

Video Evidence that Tru Motion is broken on this TV

*I shot this a month ago, and the quality is horrid. The best you can see it is within the last 2 seconds (it is way more noticeable in person). Notice the the glitching go on within the pattern, which is only there with Tru Motion on. The pattern is found on the Spears/Munsil calibration disc.

https://vid.me/PBL2

I personally notice the glitching during panning shots in movies and TV.

 

[gadgtfreek]

I think real cinema is On too. But I think sometimes it is grayed out.

Ive always read the reviews, and whatever the reviewers and calibrators came up with for the best motion rez Ive used, without SOE. IMO, Deblur 10 looks great with Dejudder 2. Dejudder 3 gets soapy, and if you think Dejudder 2 is soapy take it down to 1.

Some people aren't bothered by motion rez, but after always owning a plasma, 300 lines annoys me. The Sony XBR, on MotionFlow Standard was like 600 lines too and I loved it. Off, I could see blur in fast pans. There are a lot of owners that left it off and just used the 24hz true cinema mode for Blu-ray, but I could not.

Which is why I always tell people to try both, not give a definite recommendation. We all see motion differently so tinker with it!

 

[gadgtfreek]

Video Evidence that Tru Motion is broken on this TV

*I shot this a month ago, and the quality is horrid. The best you can see it is within the last 2 seconds (it is way more noticeable in person). Notice the the glitching go on within the pattern, which is only there with Tru Motion on. The pattern is found on the Spears/Munsil calibration disc.

https://vid.me/PBL2

I personally notice the glitching during panning shots in movies and TV.

Are you talking about the fine lines within the patterns and the weird moire going on? I see the one jerk around 2-3 seconds. I do not see "jerks" or "jitters" on Dish or Blu-ray 24hz. The wierd moire within the fine lines I have seen on any display using any time of motion rez enhancement, but normal content looks better than with it off. And I am familiar with the pattern, i use it myself.

 

[BRES86]

Not sure where to find the firmware but i did find the "software version" 04.20.60

 

[JerBearRawr]

Hi, long time lurker and first time poster here - I finally have a question to ask that I don't think has already been asked. I'm interested in hearing from other people who have this tv, the ubd-k8500, AND a physical 4k bluray disc what settings they are using on the TV and on the bluray player.

At first, I wanted to turn just about every "UHD-specific" option on for both devices - to see what it would look like taking advantage of all the options. I turned on Deep Color and Wide Color Gamut for the tv. I then set Resolution to 2160p on the bluray player, so the player would do all upscaling. I set "HDMI Color Format" to "YCbCR(4:4:4) thinking it sounded like it would provide the largest color gamut (just a feeling, I don't know much about that setting). I set "HDMI Deep Color" to "Auto", thinking it would work together with the TV's Deep Color setting. While playing the disc, I set the picture mode to "User" with all settings at 0, I've been told that is basically enabling passthrough of the video.

My experience watching the Kingsman made me turn a lot of the options off. The HDR looked amazing, but skin looked far too orange and grass looked far too neon. I ended up turning off "HDMI Deep Color" and setting "HDMI Color Format" to auto on the bluray player. I also turned off the deep color option for the TV. The only option that seemed to improve colors without making them look unnatural was the wide color gamut on the TV.

Now for the actual questions: Has anyone actually tested these options with calibration tools or have any suggestions based on the options they are using, or their experience in general?

 

[ricardo11]

Finally!!
since August 2015, 2, 9600 model and 2, 9500
on my 5th panel I received a 12/15 build, only 30 hours on it, but ( knock on wood) perfect so far, with the exception of the occasionally black blotchiness.
ISF 1
Gamma 2.4
Brightness 51
contrast 77
all enhancements off

 

[gadgtfreek]

Hi, long time lurker and first time poster here - I finally have a question to ask that I don't think has already been asked. I'm interested in hearing from other people who have this tv, the ubd-k8500, AND a physical 4k bluray disc what settings they are using on the TV and on the bluray player.

At first, I wanted to turn just about every "UHD-specific" option on for both devices - to see what it would look like taking advantage of all the options. I turned on Deep Color and Wide Color Gamut for the tv. I then set Resolution to 2160p on the bluray player, so the player would do all upscaling. I set "HDMI Color Format" to "YCbCR(4:4:4) thinking it sounded like it would provide the largest color gamut (just a feeling, I don't know much about that setting). I set "HDMI Deep Color" to "Auto", thinking it would work together with the TV's Deep Color setting. While playing the disc, I set the picture mode to "User" with all settings at 0, I've been told that is basically enabling passthrough of the video.

My experience watching the Kingsman made me turn a lot of the options off. The HDR looked amazing, but skin looked far too orange and grass looked far too neon. I ended up turning off "HDMI Deep Color" and setting "HDMI Color Format" to auto on the bluray player. I also turned off the deep color option for the TV. The only option that seemed to improve colors without making them look unnatural was the wide color gamut on the TV.

Now for the actual questions: Has anyone actually tested these options with calibration tools or have any suggestions based on the options they are using, or their experience in general?

DC has always been a load of crap, and Im not sure it's gonna help here but I havent tested any UHD discs yet. Sounds like you started out set correctly. I set mine up last night like:

player
DC Auto
ycbcr 444
2160p forced

display
HDMI UHD Deep Color On

I did not turn on WCG yet and will wait until the disc is in. Metalsaber is using it now with the Martian UHD, he can prob add some input. I think he saw no banding with DC On.

 

[geocab]

Just received my TV. 512 build. Have a little bit of rearranging before I can unbox it...

 

[rogo]

Anyone here have the new Dish Network 4K Hopper 3? I have had it for about 1 1/2 weeks and the PQ is horrible. My Hopper 2 looked fine for sat HD anyway but the Hopper 3 looks very low res and pixelated all the time. Just not sure if it is the Hopper 3 or my 65EF9500 or if they just aren't compatible yet. HDCP possibly?

I would like to be more helpful, but let me tell you a few things that aren't the problem.

1) It's not HDCP. If it were, you'd see nothing on the screen. HDCP doesn't fuzz up the image, it shuts it off if it's not working.
2) It's not "compatibility". Again, you'd see nothing if there was a fundamental incompatibility, which is very unlikely anyway.

The Hopper 3 is generally being credited with improving Dish image quality, not degrading it. I'd look to make sure your Hopper 3 is outputting the right resolution. What that is, I can't say. Perhaps try native passthrough... Try pushing out everything at 1080p... Unlikely you want to output at 4K because that requires 99.9999% of content to be upscaled by the Dish box, which is unlikely to be useful or helpful.

Also, pixellation can be a signal-quality problem with satellite. Check the meters and maybe your Dish needs some "re-peaking".