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But obviously it will then be European BD Region B and not Region A so will bring with it it's own problems. Hence why despite living in the UK I want an imported American Region A Player. I already have an Upscaling DVD Recorder for PAL DVDs anyway.


95% roughly DVDs in Europe are PAL but there's that 5% that are NTSC so they must make sure all DVD & HD Players support both, it's the same in South East Asia and Australia. It's a uniquely North American procedure.
 

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Yep!


But obviously it will then be European BD Region B and not Region A so will bring with it it's own problems. Hence why despite living in the UK I want an imported American Region A Player. I already have an Upscaling DVD Recorder for PAL DVDs anyway.


95% roughly DVDs in Europe are PAL but there's that 5% that are NTSC so they must make sure all DVD & HD Players support both, it's the same in South East Asia and Australia. It's a uniquely North American procedure.

I thought BDA studios haven't activated region encoding yet...
f***** Blu-Ray, this totally illegal, anti-consumer, monopoly-based format.



Unique? If you mean corrupt and stupid, like most things here, then yes.
 

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Even not able to play non-NTSC DVDs, the hack obviously helps people who bought the player in US and use abroad, like me, in Brazil. I own nearly 250 US DVD that always played fine, but I also own 500+ DVDs made in Brazil (NTSC, region 4) and some others region 3 too.


BR


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I thought BDA studios haven't activated region encoding yet...
f***** Blu-Ray, this totally illegal, anti-consumer, monopoly-based format.

No BD discs use BD+ yet (or whatever it's called) but I'm afraid many use Region Coding, and unlike SD DVD region coding no one has managed to crack it yet.


* All Fox discs are Region A or Region B (or C) and all EIV discs are Region B. Those are the only two companies I know of that use them on 100% of titles.

* EIV (Entertainment in Video) are a UK DVD/BD distributor who get many of their discs from New Line. Thankfully they're UK only as their DVDs/BDs suck. I am more than happy to never ever buy their discs again.


The truth is if it's Region Locked it will more than likely be a Region A disc. You guys simply have the most sought after films in the world.


* Lionsgate mostly use Region A for their releases (3:10 to Yuma is Region Free).

* New Line the same (Pan's Labyrinth Region Free but Rush Hour 3 & Hairspray Region A). It's generally agreed Pan's Labyrinth was Region Free as it was already out in most parts of the world.

* Disney use Region Coding in both America and the UK and have no pattern to speak of. Ratatouille is Region A in America and Region B in Europe but Pirates of the Carribean 3 is Region Free.

* Sony use it intermittently and again have no pattern, although mostly when they region lock a disc they use it on Region A, although thankfully they've not used Region Coding for flipping ages now. I cannot remember the last one.


Here's one example: Casino Royale Region Free everywhere except oddly America where it's Region A, and cut the most out of all versions so no one would want to import it anyway (cut even more so than the UK version).


Check out this awesome site which details what BDs are Region Locked and which are Region Free:

http://bluray.liesinc.net/


It's updated regularly and you can see it's split into Region A, B and C categories at the top.

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Unique? If you mean corrupt and stupid, like most things here, then yes.

Yes



Although I cannot comment how corrupt or stupid your country is
, well I think your gun laws need overhauling (starting by updating the Constitution's second amendment) but I'd rather not go there
 

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Although I cannot comment how corrupt or stupid your country is
, well I think your gun laws need overhauling (starting by updating the Constitution's second amendment) but I'd rather not go there

Then the criminals will be the only ones armed and will run amuck. Such a rehaul just wouldn't be feasible in this country.
 

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Even not able to play non-NTSC DVDs, the hack obviously helps people who bought the player in US and use abroad,

I think it's flipping amazing and you're even more amazing for finding it, thanks!

Julio Cohen: Will this hack also work on European LG BH200's which already support PAL and NTSC? I guess it should, right?

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FYI the second photo doesn't work.
 

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This is awesome. I just tried it with my BH-200. Thanks for this information, my player just got one step further to the perfect one.


Still missing so far: Playback of PAL SD-DVDs and Playback of BR B and C exclusive titles.


Well I am happy with what I got now, it is so amazing that this player gets better and better.


Oh and this is something not even my region code free Toshiba HD-XE1 (European HD-XA2) can do: the BH-200 plays back R1 Fox and Paramount SD DVDs.



The XE1 requires a remote control hack to play any R1 Fox or RCE or Paramount SD DVDs. Ok, on the plus side, it plays both PAL and NTSC SD DVDs.


But: the BH-200 Multiregion hack does not allow to play RCE enhanced R1 DVDs, I have just checked with my R1 Final Fantasy: The Spirits within SD DVD. It does not play with the BH-200 region 0 setting. I am changing back my BH-200 region to region 1 since I can play all the other SD DVDs with the HD-XE1 (but it is good to know that the BH-200 is such a capable machine).
 

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But: the BH-200 Multiregion hack does not allow to play RCE enhanced R1 DVDs, I have just checked with my R1 Final Fantasy: The Spirits within SD DVD. It does not play with the BH-200 region 0 setting.

That's a pity. Thanks for the heads up the hack isn't RCE safe.


There is nothing wrong with leaving it on Region 0, then set it to Region 1 for Final Fantasy (how many times do you watch it?), then put it back to Region 0. Unlike a Firmware upgrade you're only making a minor change so I wouldn't worry about running it every now and again. There are very few RCE discs out there.


I read about that E1 workaround to play RCE discs. Personally it wouldn't bother me.

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hello my bh200 is region free now but does somebody know how to change or make free the bd region?

That's the million dollar question, that so far no one has cracked. Not on the BH200 or any BD Player. Given time I'm sure someone will crack it though.
 

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This MR Hack has only ever been tested with USA Players. I don't think anyone's tested it on European Players.


It's not European software.
 

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Hi everyone,


Since it just activates the region changing menu, worth a try with european players.


But if the European players actually plays NTSC DVDs, loading the US players with the european firmware should work, if they are not equal.


BR


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Since it just activates the region changing menu, worth a try with european players.

Thanks. I thought so.

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But if the European players actually plays NTSC DVDs, loading the US players with the european firmware should work, if they are not equal.

So far no one has had the guts to try this.


It seems the firmware downloaded from the USA and Irish sites are identical, although they may have an identical file size but in fact be different. European models will support PAL that much I do know. How it's achieved I've no idea.


I'm not sure I'd risk bricking my USA Player by trying a European firmware on it.

EDIT: Going to:

http://ie.lgservice.com/


Which is the Irish website, says when you go to download firmware:

This firmware file is apply for USA and Canada only.


A. This could indeed mean they're the same and PAL is done elsewhere in the Player.

B. LG have just copy/pasted info across websites. Considering they put the March firmware inside the January ZIP file (which is the only reason we all have it) I could well believe this.


Regardless that's shoddy working on an Irish LG website.
 

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could it be possible when loaded the european software version in my us player it plays pal and ntsc or is that not to get by software but hardware?
 

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Cheeky you've already asked that



Personally I think it's done elsewhere in the player, so if not hardware another part of the Player but not Firmware. To give you an idea what I mean, Julio Cohen is changing data in one of the EEPROM chips to make the LG BH200 SD DVD Multiregion but he is not touching the Players Core Firmware, which is done when we install Firmware Upgrades.


If it's not done in Firmware PAL/NTSC could be stored elsewhere and it looks likely it's not being done in Firmware (i.e - the files on the USA & Irish sites appear identical). In short I doubt installing the European Firmware will give you PAL compatibility. I'm no LG Engineer though so could obviously be wrong.


So far no one has had the guts to try the European Firmware (technically not Software) in a USA Player to be able to say either way. Do you fee like being a guinea pig?
 

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That's a pity. Thanks for the heads up the hack isn't RCE safe.


There is nothing wrong with leaving it on Region 0, then set it to Region 1 for Final Fantasy (how many times do you watch it?), then put it back to Region 0. Unlike a Firmware upgrade you're only making a minor change so I wouldn't worry about running it every now and again. There are very few RCE discs out there.


I read about that E1 workaround to play RCE discs. Personally it wouldn't bother me.



That's the million dollar question, that so far no one has cracked. Not on the BH200 or any BD Player. Given time I'm sure someone will crack it though.

Spiderman SD RC1 does not work, but spiderman 1and 2 superbit DVD, spiderman 3 DVD works. I am leaving mines at region 0, worst case i just buy it on bluray.
 

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Thanks Benc5.


What does RC1 mean? I bet that Spider-man disc is RCE, it's a Sony title after all. Thankfully there aren't many RCE discs. I'm pretty sure all RCE discs are R1 though.
 

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Thanks Benc5.


What does RC1 mean? I bet that Spider-man disc is RCE, it's a Sony title after all. Thankfully there aren't many RCE discs. I'm pretty sure all RCE discs are R1 though.

Sorry about that, I meant Spiderman RCE region 1 don't work on region 0. I hope they get a pal hack too, then i can move my oppo 1080p player out off my shelf.
 

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Thanks to the OP, worked great for me!
 

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Okay quick question for you guys, many may feel it is stupid but region coding is a bit of a weakness of mine when it comes to knowledge in AV stuff. Now those who do get a PAL movie to play on your screen. Don't you need a special TV set to still display these other formats (NTSC --> PAL, PAL ---> NTSC). How does the framerate work exactly? Is it changed during upconversion, or does the player just "force" it to come to 60 Hz (for those who dont have 24fps capable)/24 Hz. I guess what I am asking is how does a PAL framerate work on an NTSC TV set.
 
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