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Originally Posted by bradavon /forum/post/13808206


Interestingly AlfaGT has just told me his European Swiss BH200 code is:


43 48 00 96 00 05 00 40


43 48 is CH which is the country code for Switzerland, so that makes sense but 96 is a new value. The user who reported that 82 was his value owned a UK BH100. His value was:


44 45 00 82 00 05 00 40


44 45 is DE so clearly his UK model was sourced from Germany but clearly there are also localised European BH200s too. AlfaGT's European BH200 is for the Swiss market only.


So either:


1. The German BH100 is 82 and the Swiss BH200 is 96

2. 82 is the European code for all the BH100s and 92 for the BH200s


We need to someone to check another European BH200.

p.s - Does someone (owning a USA/Canadian BH200) fancy trying 96 to see if the BD Region value changes?

I'm a confused... got my US BH200 today and changed the 4th bit to 96 and set the DVD-Region to 0. Now my player also shows 43 48 00 96 00 05 00 40 (previously it was 55 53 00 00 00 05 00 40), but he also sets the DVD-Region back to 2...


Anyone has an idea what is happening here?


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I'm not sure it does any harm but you didn't need to change the country too (55 53 to 43 48), personally I'd put that back.


Contrary to what the Region Info menu says, as you've run the RMTM CD can you still play R1 DVDs? The RMTM CD overwrites whatever it set in the EEPROM menu as far as SD DVD Region Coding.


To be honest you'd be better using the instructions, here:

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1009104


Follow the SD DVD Region Free and BD Region instructions, all should then be fine. It doesn't matter if you do the SD DVD or BD instructions first. The comments in the post you've quoted aren't really meant to be followed "as instructions". I hope that helps
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I'm not sure it does any harm but you didn't need to change the country too (55 53 to 43 48), personally I'd put that back.


Contrary to what the Region Info menu says, as you've run the RMTM CD can you still play R1 DVDs? The RMTM CD overwrites whatever it set in the EEPROM menu as far as SD DVD Region Coding. To be honest you'd be better of using the instructions in here:

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1009104


I hope that helps
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Well, I didn't change the country, in fact I have no idea how that got changed (it now also shows 'CH' under 'area' in the 'Lock' menu). And no, I couldn't play a R1 DVD...


Going by those instructions, you say I should use 92 instad of 96 for B2 PAL?


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I might have found what happened with the DVD-Region setting:


"As you have noted, changing EEPROM byte 4 doesn't override the DVD Region setting made by the RMTM CD. However, I found that if you perform a Factory Reset by pressing PAUSE on the System Information screen, the DVD Region code does get changed to what you would expect, i.e., 8D -> R1, 96 -> R2."


I think I pressed PAUSE to get out of this menu. What should I press instead to get out of it?


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Going by those instructions, you say I should use 92 instad of 96 for B2 PAL?

It doesn't make any difference, both are identical. If memory serves me correctly 92 is the default code for a Belgium sourced Player and 96 Switzerland but they're actually identical.


There are unique codes for each country but many give the exact same results. 92 is easier to switch between 80 and back again, that's the only reason I choice it, over 96 for the instructions. Use whichever you prefer.

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I think I pressed PAUSE to get out of this menu. What should I press instead to get out of it?

Ah yes that would've been it. Pressing "Pause" in that menu takes the RMTM hack with it, when restoring to Factory defaults.


To explain: The fourth HEX value contains: SD DVD Region Info, BD Region Info and PAL Support but the RMTM Hack overrides the SD DVD Region Info. When you wipe that it reverts back to whatever Region is stored in the fourth HEX value (i.e - Switzerland = SD DVD Region 2 ONLY).


No harm done though!


Presumably you had a valid reason to switch it to: "PAL Enabled + BD Region B" so just re-run the RMTM Hack, choose R0 again and job done!


Then just switch between BD Region A or BD Region B as needed. Personally I wouldn't switch between "BD" regions too often, just in case but in theory there should be no harm doing this. I plan to leave mine on Region A and just switch it while watching Region B discs.


Oilblue has answered your main question. I hope that helps.
 

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Press "Home" to exit the System Info screen (without performing a Factory Reset).

thanks, gonna use this in the future



many thanks to bradavon as well.
 

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I've experienced to use the Internet update with my 2 French LG BH200.

I don't know why but with my original string (46 52 00 91 00 05 00 40) It was impossible to get from "other" in the home menu the Internet update functionality. I just changed my original string to 45 52 00 00 05 00 40 and this menu appears. Then a new version of a part of the software was ready to download. the name was "702" or something like that.

Any body knows what news exactly brings this update?


After have applied the RMTM Free zone patch and installed the 402F Bios update I still have on my 2 BH200 randomly drop during playing the movie BDR or HDDVD. This is not often, it's arriving once or twice mainly in the beginning of the movie.


Another thing, I've a chance here in France to have the complete collection of "The gendarme" with louis de Funes for who knows, these are very famous French movies made during the seventies. On My Thoshiba X-E1 all the HDDVD are working fine but all of them cannot run on the BH200. I'm obliged to tun off the player and then eject the HDDVD media because the BH200 goes into an erratic mode until complete crash. Is there anybody who got the same experience with other HDDVD or BDR?


Last one: My BH200 are not able to read combo SACD; that mean the CD special layer of a SACD which can be read on every regular CD player to keep compatibility with existing CD player base. Any experience also?
 

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Something I've noticed here in France may be interesting for some of you: the majority of the BDR we can buy here are Not Region coded. The only one I've seen is "Die hard 4".

Its why I'm running my BH200 only in Region A because I use to buy My BDR through Internet from north America companies and my French DBR are not Region coded...
 

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Do you mean, you changed it to? -


45 52 00 00 00 05 00 40


If so, that is why. 00 is the default American code (BD RA/No PAL support) and has Network Update available. The only codes with Network Update active are the North American codes (not any RB or RC codes and no other RA codes).


Driver 0702 brings: * Fixes issues with Saw IV, Hitman and Enchanted on Blu-ray.


I asked an LG Engineer (I'm pretty sure 3rd line) and that's what they told me.

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Another thing, I've a chance here in France to have the complete collection of "The gendarme" with louis de Funes for who knows, these are very famous French movies made during the seventies.

Do you mean Les Gendarmes de Saint-Tropez on French HD-DVD? Another user has mentioned problems with that on the BH200. See the "Problem Discs" list here:

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1002769

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Last one: My BH200 are not able to read combo SACD; that mean the CD special layer of a SACD which can be read on every regular CD player to keep compatibility with existing CD player base. Any experience also?

You're right
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I've just tried "Genesis: We Can't Dance" Hybrid SACD and the BH200 recognises it as a DATA Disc. It then obviously doesn't know what to do with it.


I too have never come across a DVD or CD Player that isn't able to pick up the Redbook Audio CD Layer before. This is annoying as I have a few Hybrid SACDs I was planning to continue to use on my BH200.

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Its why I'm running my BH200 only in Region A because I use to buy My BDR through Internet from north America companies and my French DBR are not Region coded...

Thanks for letting us know.

Are there any French only labels that use BD Region B (such as TF1 Video)? Fox of course distribute worldwide so their releases end up everywhere anyway.
 

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Another thing, I've a chance here in France to have the complete collection of "The gendarme" with louis de Funes for who knows, these are very famous French movies made during the seventies. On My Thoshiba X-E1 all the HDDVD are working fine but all of them cannot run on the BH200. I'm obliged to tun off the player and then eject the HDDVD media because the BH200 goes into an erratic mode until complete crash. Is there anybody who got the same experience with other HDDVD or BDR?

Thanks for telling that the discs from "Les gendarmes" boxset doesn't work well on bh-200 on my HD-A1 they work ok but after the M6 logo the player needs about 1 minute to go to the warning screen.
 

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The LG BH200 doesn't have Analogue outputs.


Can we use this thread for Hacking discussion please and use the Mini-FAQ or Owners threads for general discussion. Thanks.
 

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hi i have a usa LGBH200 player and did the hack and changed the 4th hex to 80 and it worked. i can now play standard dvds from other regions on it and it plays perfectly on the player. im just surprised my tv displays the picture. one question though if i ever do another update from LG do i need to set the 80 back to 00 or it wont make a difference ? and also does the 80 make the player pal compatible or does it make pal as its default picture format for standard dvds ? what im asking is if i play a region 1 dvd and leave the hex on 80 will it be in pal or ntsc ?
 

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You need to run the SD DVD Region Free hack to make it Region Free. If a PAL SD DVD worked you must've used a Region Free PAL DVD (or you'd already run the SD DVD Region Free hack). See here:

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1009104


No you don't need to alter the EEPROM value before upgrading the firmware, or afterwards either. Feel free to leave it on 80. I've left mine on 80 (even though it's a Euro model). Firmware or Driver upgrades don't touch it.


Value 80 makes the player support NTSC or PAL, so NTSC DVDs output as NTSC and PAL DVDs as PAL. Before, the player only supported NTSC DVDs so PAL DVDs you'd get an error.


It outputs at whatever format the disc is encoded with. As Region 1 DVDs are always NTSC then they'll continue to output as NTSC. None of the hacks allow the LG BH200 to convert PAL to NTSC or NTSC to PAL, they output in whatever format the disc is encoded with.


The Mini-FAQ (link I post above) is the best one to read. I hope that helps.
 

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i did the SD dvd region hack already or else i wouldnt be able to play those discs and i know those pal dvds arent region free cause ive tried them a 100 times before but now it works. it just flips me out that the picture displays on my tv. the funny thing is i have to leave resolution on auto now since i changed the hex to 80 because if i put it at 1080P or any other resolution the screen goes all blurry. the funny thing to when i played a region 1 standard dvd after i did the hack and the rest of the stuff the picture doesnt look as clear as it did before when it was 00
 

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it just flips me out that the picture displays on my tv.

It's great to have little surprises like this, isn't it
. Not all TVs in North America support PAL, you're lucky.

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the funny thing is i have to leave resolution on auto now since i changed the hex to 80 because if i put it at 1080P or any other resolution the screen goes all blurry.

And when you set it to Auto it still definitely displays a 1080p image? If so I'm not sure why it's doing that. When you set it to 80, the initial load screen (when it's turning on) outputs at 50Hz (PAL) when before it would output at 60Hz (NTSC). I think once loaded it reverts to 60Hz.


Forum members Dring, Peterjcat or Krobar now more than I do about the technical side of the EEPROM Hack, they were the guys who worked it all out. You could PM one of them, Peterjcat maybe.

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The funny thing to when i played a region 1 standard dvd after i did the hack and the rest of the stuff the picture doesnt look as clear as it did before when it was 00

What about NTSC DVDs, do they look any different? It could be that your TV doesn't quite like PAL 100%.
 

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What about NTSC DVDs, do they look any different? It could be that your TV doesn't quite like PAL 100%.

the NTSC DVDs dont look as sharp as before. and even though maybe the tv doesnt support pal 100% you said earlier that if i play a ntsc dvd should display a NTSC image and if i play a pal dvd should be a pal image on screen. i dont see any difference in the picture when i put in blu ray or HD dvd so they are fine. i just think il switch the hex back to 00 for now and when ever i need to play another region disc il just switch it to 80 again. i dont have that many different region discs anyways. and no when i put the resolution to auto doesnt look like 1080P anymore i can tell theres something missing. but doesnt pal support 1080P ? thats what i dont get that it wont let me put the resolution setting to 1080P or any other option. will only display on my screen if i do auto
 

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you said earlier that if i play a ntsc dvd should display a NTSC image and if i play a pal dvd should be a pal image on screen.

Correct.

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i just think il switch the hex back to 00 for now and when ever i need to play another region disc il just switch it to 80 again.

Good idea. You'll then be able to confirm it does in fact look sharper again.

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but doesnt pal support 1080P ?

Correct. PAL and NTSC are SD standards. The fourth hex value (00/80) controls more than just PAL/NTSC. It also for example chooses the Blu-ray region, off the top of my head 92 or 96 make it BD Region B, with PAL still enabled.


Ask Peterjcat or Dring if you want more information.
 

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yah i switched it back to 00 and the region 1 movies display much sharper.


but thanks for the info youve been alot of help
 
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